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Bully prevention and treatment is stressed to a fault in this PC world. When real bullying finally reaches some of our insulated youth for the first time, maybe High School well... Kid has no idea how to deal with it.

Daughters here who have zero interest no matter how many times I try and force it. One was a natural with the bb gun but absolute zero interest so I am more lax than some. Unloaded out of sight and away from ammo all the time but not always locked up. If I had a boy, especially one who exhibited signs of a loner who let's just say is "different".... or even to a lesser extent just typical teen boy but fascinated with first person shooter games I would take the gun security to a different level. Perhaps even reduce my collection of "certain semi-auto weapons" as well as locked always. Although no safe will stop a determined person from access and it could be argued with a safe, the location and the fact you even have guns is now obvious. Hard to be objective with your own teens to think they are on a track to do something like this but I think I am on other issues. Perhaps that's why they are mad at me so often lol. Seriously though, in hindsight haven't all these young killers shown warning signs that were ignored by the parents or someone the parents sent the kid to for help? You are responsible for the guns you own but you are more responsible to be paying attention to your kid. Some of these shootings could have been easily prevented.

I stand corrected. Didnt look too closely at it. The shroud and the quietness fooled me. The two shots at the ground were insanely quiet I thought.

Watched a news clip where she said she thought it was some kind of taser. If you never saw that setup before, supressed and never expected a real gun to appear, perhaps true. Woman in house could be heard screaming out. Maybe cell camera holder?

Good analysis. The still frame from taken from the house POV in this article tells the whole story in my opinion. In the vid Read appears at the moment of shooting to be standing almost at attention arms at side and at least 7 feet? or more away from the pointed carbine. Looks like he had almost come to his senses and realised what a dangerous situation he got himself into. He was standing still. No immediate threat like moments earlier. Texas law and a good lawyer might save shooter but at that moment in time, killing the man was just wrong and .. smacks of revenge, anger and loss of control. 3:15 just sticks in my head, dead man kept repeating that. Jesus help me but I've been that stupid angry in my younger days. When you're right and know it, you're willing to die on that hill to prove it. Too bad he didn't just walk away and deal with it some other way. His Kid has the vid now to haunt him for the rest of his life. And the bad living situation he probably had is now 100 times worse I'm guessing.

The new vid angle shows clearly when shot was fired there was ample distance between them. No need to shoot unless mouth charged. If that guy was that distance from me and I already had it pointed at him......No way I would have shot at that moment. That's if you objectively take all emotion out of the equation. And yes I have been emotional and angry as these people at times in my life. Watching this vid just makes me sad for all involved. I'm going to go hug my family now.

Weird video, like a fake with bad acting. Unarmed man grabbed his gun but let go. Then home owner got some distance and didn't need to fire unless he was being charged at afterwards then but vid doesn't show. His property but deadly force seemed inapropriate at that moment. Other angles and full vid needed but... Homeowner was too quick to come out with weapon in this situation in my opinion.

Turns out I found he did chase and block, as well as film. Intent matters I feel. The other two chased a theft suspect with weapons. Easy correct verdict. Other guy probably knew these idiot hot heads well enough to know they were armed vigilante types when they asked him to help. If he knew them that well, the blocking would be cause for the harsh verdict. Assisting the killing. If he was really just trying to help get vid of who he thought had been thieving... then different story but his lawyer or his testimony must have been deficient. People film all manner of crimes nowadays and aren't usually charged. People often rush to get involved in things trying to help at first but suddenly turn ugly. When I get time I'm going to try and review his part of the trial.

From tidbits I saw seems Jury did it's job. Trying to get timeline of cell phone guy though. He was called over to follow, started recording and got charged and convicted? I know I'm missing something. Somebody told me he blocked victim with his truck. Charge seems harsh maybe? Again I didn't follow trial and didn't even know third man was on trial.

The only relevance to this creeps race being black is that the media will not hype the story. It's very obvious when something horrible like this happens and it "happens" to be a non- white there is a delay in info and negative speculation that is not afforded a white person. Why? Pushing stories where White Supremacist radicals kill people is working very well to divide this country. Facts be dammed, the ends justify the means...When we are divided we are easy to control. If the media was honest and treated all equal in their reporting we wouldn't be so close to losing the rights we have left in this Country. But diminished rights seems to be on their agenda. Especially the 2nd A.

Hopefully he knows enough and there will be ample time for him to disavow BLM the organization not the general statement. A lot of prosecutorial injustices? Damn straight. Enough for all races and creeds to complain.

Without Lindell and Schroder the bail money would have been impossible I would assume for Kyle.

Some of the video shows him not hitting many obvious targets at first.... Was he avoiding some and targeting others or saving up and manouvering for the big kill shot? Either way it's coming out he had multiple reasons to have been locked up more seriously than he had been. Should not have been on the streets. How can they come out this quickly and say it's not terrorism? In todays climate if he has social media ideological posts that are anti-police and pro BLM etc. then given the timing of the Rittenhouse verdict I would say that call is premature. Even if he was hyped up on drugs and fleeing from a stabbing crime. Maybe he thought his luck had run out and he might as well go down Kamikazee for his cause than rot in prison.

My 303 Enfield with the crapped out barrel. Cool but useless. If I ever get a gun room/man cave it's an historical art piece. Barrel replaced it loses the cool historical aspect but cool to shoot. Probably will sell it someday as my offspring is indifferent.

Jesus I hope this rare method of mass killing doesn't catch on. It's been done more successfully in Europe and there's so many easy targets out there. The worst one I believe was... Nice, France attack in 2016. 86 deaths 458 injured. Germany had a pretty bad one too. Much easier and deadly for a lone attacker than a so called assault weapon.

Yet another purposeful vehicle attack yesterday. Suicide by car exhaust is still happening. Not to mention all the Vehicle deaths in general. Not sure the CDC is pushing Car Violence like they are gun Violence. Perhaps once the guns are gone they move on to cars? What's after cars?

It's insanity, the media that appeals to the younger hip crowd keeps pushing a narrative that will lead to more and more violence. Chuck Todd who appeals to the older hip crowd I suppose just asked a Lawyer if the "Victims" had legal recourse against Rittenhouse. VICTIMS? So he's telegraphing to all that the trial was a sham. He even paused for effect and then said victims. Did they teach that to him in Journalism School?

I'm sure Joy "White Tears" Reid has some more lies and racist comments to embolden the rioters tonight. Too bad Kenosha can't send the bill for damages to MSNBC and the rest to pay for the damages. Although nothing can repair the damages they've done to this generation of youth I'm afraid. May God bless and protect Rittenhouse and his family and may peace be with them.

I've always had at least one "Economy" car going. At the moment an Elantra. Have considered something small and all electric like a Nissan Leaf for local commute and grocery getter but haven't researched yet. The Elantra has alot of miles to go. In my heart I'm against the big subsidized push for them and feel they are no way better for the climate, air etc. because of the poisonous battery production and disposal and the power generation used to charge them. Plus the deliberate squeeze on oil production to force electric ticks me off. Saying that...the cat is out of the bag and if it pencils out to save me money then I'll eventually go electric. We all may have no choice eventually.

That one will red flag you for sure these days! Your on the LIST brother.

If you looked at my social media you'd find I had a pro 2ndA stance and political leanings that most would assume align with that. Although some of my fakebook friends are a bit over the top politically and post off color humor I try my best to keep it clean and not hateful despite my desire to join in full steam. No pics posing with my rifles, No memes promoting violent solutions to the mess we are in today. Despite that I'd say that turd of a prosecutor would easily use some of my posts against me if I was on trial for SD. And I'm an older dude with not a lifetime of posting. Lord help those who began posting crap in their stupid teen years!

The BS is gonna get deep with the Fat Lawyer's rebuttal. He said it will be brief, hope so, as our President says..."I'm losing my patience".

It's amazing he has a Judge who seems fair through this "####show" and may I add I hope he and his family have taken precautions as the threats are coming in.

I'm leaning towards sabotoge also if dummies and live ammo were indeed mixed into a box however..... This alone does not excuse the armorer from checking and rechecking the gun and ammo as well as every other safety procedure being followed. Only the armorer being dismissed from the set by her employer for the day and someone else handling the gun by breaking a locked safe etc., would perhaps excuse her part in this.