Cruel Hand Luke

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The problem with .380 is that almost none of it (if any) is IWBA compliant. That is none of it expands well AND penetrates 12". Now do you ALWAYS need 12" of penetration? No . The old dude who killed the guy in the movie theater for throwing popcorn at him had no problem with .380 working. He also shot a guy at arm's length who was wearing nothing thicker than a t-shirt. On the other hand I have seen binder clips used to hang targets get hit with .380 and suffer a dent....the same clips hit with 9mm had holes all the way through them. The only thing that FOR SURE delivers adequate penetration in a .380 is FMJ ( I like the winchester flat point). In a HP the one that seems to open up AND penetrate fairly well is the Hornady XTP (or a similar load using that same bullet like the Fiocchi Extrema using the XTP projectile). Just beware that the Fiocchi case rims are a little thicker than Hornady and can cause extraction/ejection issues in some guns. The up side to 380 is it fits in truly small guns that used to only be the size envelope for .25ACP or .32ACP . The Glock 42 and the Kahr P380 and CW380 are true pocket pistol sized guns that actually work reliably and have decent sights and they can be shot pretty well.

One further comment on patterns of buckshot. One load to the next can make a HUGE difference. I was teaching a class in Knoxville several years back and one of the students had a Mossberg that was throwing "Hollywood quality wall of lead " patterns at 10-15 yards...that is pellets ALL OVER the target and some NOT on the target. I'm pretty sure it was mostly a matter of his particular gun not liking that particular shell. We substituted some of the Hornady TAP buckshot (the original Flight Control) and suddenly it was throwing palm sized groups.....at 20 yards.... So if you are having trouble with your patterns the Federal Flight Control and Hornady TAP will certainly tighten them up. It is like a "choke in a box of shells". In 2014 (IIRC) I was in Tom Givens' 2 day shotgun class in Memphis. I had brought a mix of RIO birdshot (cheap and excellent quality) some Federal Walmart value pack birdshot with aluminum rims (cheap and absolutely AWFUL- it would not reliably eject from my Scattergun Tech 870) and for the practice buckshot I had a bunch of Estate Tactical Low Recoil buckshot and some Federal H13200 (Low Recoil) for qualification. Tom looked at the Estate boxes and kind of "sneered" saying something to the effect that it was garbage and probably would not pattern well at all. When I shot it at 15 yards it threw the entire pattern inside the 8" "Down Zero" area of the targets we were shooting. Tom looked at it curiously and just shook his head. The point being that SOMETIMES a particular gun will like a particular load better than another and sometimes it will shoot one very well that you might not expect it to shoot well at all.

Limit on Garands is 8 per calendar year . Limit on 03 Springfields is 1 per calendar year (when they have them). The last 2 years I have gone on the Friday before Labor Day. I went specifically looking for a Garand in 2018 and there was not one there I'd even shoot a rabid dog with. They were all rough looking field grades with Hackberry Stocks. I ended up getting a bayonet and some slings and other trinkets and found a REALLY nice Garand on Gunbroker that I was willing to pay for. Then in 2019 I went specifically looking for an 03 Springfield this after they had been getting some in and as you would know they had some 03 Springfields and a bunch of NICE Garands.....when I was not looking for one nor ready to pay for one. I drooled over some of the Garands and got a nice Rock Island 03 Springfield and bayonet. The Garands were some of the ones that came back from the Philipines and they cleaned up very nicely. NIce GI stocks too. Oh well that's just my luck. If you go you should also check out the Berman Museum in Anniston LOTS of guns and historical stuff collected by a CIA guy who filled up 8 passports travelling the world and "acquiring" artifacts. Hilter's tea set and some of Mousilini's stuff is in there. The museum was well worth the trip for me. And then go hit Cooter Brown's Rib Shack and you've had a full enjoyable day.

Lee's right with regards to "select slug drills" . In 20 years of teaching (and 30 years of researching this stuff) I have come across 1 instance where someone specifically put a slug into their shotgun mid-fight to deal with a problem that buckshot was not solving. It was (IIRC) an Oklahoma State Trooper who switched to a slug to shoot through the car door a suspect was using for cover. I'm sure someone somewhere has probably done it at some time but we just cannot find them. Folks tend to solve it (or not) with what was in the gun to start with. And as DBTN mentions if you carry both slugs and buck then there is the possibility of loading the wrong one at the wrong time. There is a reason that they have dedicated "Less Lethal" guns so a bean bag round does not end up being buck or a slug accidentally. If you spend enough time around people shooting shotguns with mixed loads you'll eventually see someone load the wrong one and shoot a target with a slug that they were not supposed to shoot with a slug or shoot a target with buck when it was supposed to be with a slug. I actually have some match video of a very squared away and high level shooter with A LOT of experience with shotguns both in LE and competitively (who some of you know) get DQd when he shot a slug target with buck accidentally in a match. Most of our readers (I assume) are probably not sworn personnel and the actual need (and justification) for them in civilian world USA to shoot at anyone in an urban area past the "B zone" of a buckshot pattern is pretty rare. The "B zone" with Flight Control (especially the 8 pellet LE13300) is a legit 35-40 yards. And the legit low probability target distance (A Zone of the buckshot pattern) with 8 pellet Flight Control loads is probably at least 15 yards. (Obviously this can vary from gun to gun so you HAVE to pattern your own gun with the ammo to know for sure how big YOUR pattern is at what distance) Clarification for those reading along who are not familiar with some of the terminology... the A zone is the distance where the pellets are all still a tightly massed group- essentially a "dissolving slug". The "B Zone" is essentially the distance where all the pellets are still close enough to fall within the upper thoracic area of a silhouette target. And then the "C zone" is where the pattern has opened to the point that all pellets cannot be guaranteed to hit what you were aiming at. The C zone is where slugs are normally chosen. With regards to the 8 pellet load vs the 9 pellet...the 8 pellet loads are stacked differently than the 9 pellet and as such have less surface area touching other pellets. This leaves less flat spots on the pellets when the whole shot load goes from zero to 1300 fps in a fraction of a second. 8 pellet loads simply tend to pattern tighter. Flat spots on pellets cause pellets to not fly as straight. People will often find 8 pellet 00 loads pattern tighter than 9 pellet 00 loads. 000 loads also generally pattern tighter than 9 pellet 00 because of this. The 000 loads with only 8 pellets have less deformation than the 9 pellet 00 loads.

OK, I finally watched the video and I thought it was nicely done. We all are products of our own experiences and no two people's experiences are exactly the same. If your guys are not having any issues with shells falling out then no reason to change. I'd just make sure they know it is a possibility (even if remote). To be forewarned is to be forearmed (but not four armed). Regardless of whether you have issues with shells falling out under recoil or not, the good news is that rarely do civilian and LE fights that involve shotguns go enough rounds to actually NEED a reload. And while I do not have a video to add to the discussion I thought I might mention this for those looking for some shotgun training in the VERY near future....

Lee mentions AA Winchester shells which are slicker than most other shells. I too have seen those come out of the side saddle. Something that helps is to actually push the shell up in there high enough that the plastic holder is making contact with some case rim. For some reason I see a lot of folks wanting to place the the shells hanging out as far as they can put them. That makes it even more likely for them to fall out. No reason not to push them up farther into the carrier. Also on the action pins, that is a real thing and tends to be more a big deal with aluminum receivers (like Benelli ad Mossberg) that get the screws tightened down too far and then the receiver and bolt bind up because the receiver is in effect "pinched". You have to fight the urge to over tighten the screws. But as Lee mentions, the velcro cards alleviate that issue as they do not hang from the trigger group pins.

Can't watch the video right now but there are so many variables at play that there really is no hard and fast "always and never" with regards to shell orientation. The conventional wisdom is gravity works against you and we do actually see people lose shells in class and matches from time to time from recoil and gravity combining to work against you. If the brass is down it can fall out of the hard plastic Tac Star sidesaddle (and the stretchy fabric ones too) . It is not common but it CAN happen. If the brass is up it is almost impossible to fall out of the sidesaddle. Frankly though it is so rare I don't even consider that as a consideration. Having said that..... If you only plan to load into the tube and not into the ejection port then brass down makes that more ergonomic. Pull down and thrust into the tube. This is my "default" recommendation for shell orientation. If you plan to load into the port when it runs empty then brass up makes that easier. You pluck it up, roll the receiver slightly and drop the shell into the open port , close and fire. If I'm shooting a match with a pump gun this is the setup. Load them in the sidesaddle all brass up. Just shoot it empty and then reload singles through the ejection port (like they do in cowboy action with a 97 Winchester). If you plan to have some available to load into the tube to top off with AND some to load over the top into the port as an emergency speed load if you run it empty then some up and some down makes sense. If you plan to have both slugs and buck in your side saddle then running one up and one down helps keep them "separate". The "up" ones will be slower to load into the tube because you will have to reorient them but this method does simplify keeping them separate. And if you plan to run BOTH slugs and buck but want to run them all with brass down (or all brass up) then I'd suggest different color shells to differentiate the two. I'll try to get some time to watch the video and comment specifically on it later.

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Suarez International CRG-5: ZERO TO FIVE FEET GUNFIGHTING May 2-3, 2020 Rocky Face, GA Price : $350 Instructor: Randy Harris (Instructor BIO) This revolutionary class focuses on integrating the pistol into the fight at zero to five feet. This is what some trainers call "The Hole" and their entire perspective is to "Get Out Of The Hole". We don't worry about "getting out of the hole" because the reality is that you won't. Instead, we get comfortable in there...we set up a nice, cozy camp there and learn to thrive where other men fear to walk. We make the other guy want to get out of the hole he finds himself in as we start to rip his head right off his shoulders. This will be a very thorough study on how to prevail and not get killed at this distance interval. We will do a great deal of technical work to ingrain the correct skills and then work them extensively via force on force exercises. You have never seen training and information like this before. While I do want to make sure guys are in reasonable condition to handle this, you don't need to be a hard core athlete to do this. We will play hard. . . . but within reason for the attendees we normally have in class. SOME TOPICS: Dealing against the drawn gun. What are all the options? We will look at everything from running away, to drawing and killing him, stabbing him with a knife, to disarming him and shooting him with his own gun. Dealing against the drawn knife. Both from "hold up" type situations to actual attacks. You will deal with them with the gun in hand, and with empty hands, leading into a draw and shots as part of the fight. Dealing with a fight in hallways, elevators, phone booths and cars. All empty handed, and with one leading to the other. Dealing with more than one bad guy. How to position and maneuver to deny them the advantage, as well as how to immediately escalate and take them out. The combined use of various tools such as knife and gun, knife and light, light and gun, gun and stick. Not only the how, but the why as well. Dealing with ground fighting problems. Fighting principles and techniques that will better prepare you for all bad-breath distance problems with guns, knives, and empty hands. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 250 rounds (Minimum) and 400 (Minimum) good quality biodegradable pellets. NO STEEL PELLETS RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Pistol, holster, at least two magazines, and the usual range safety gear (ear and eye protection). Bring an airsoft pistol with the necessary gear (pellets, facemask, etc.) Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: Hiawassee Land Company Lake Mill Creek Rd (3 miles south from Old Lafyette Rd) Rocky Face, GA 30740 Host Name: Chip Whitworth Phone: (706) 270-2834 Contact: chip.whitworth@brownind.com For more info and to sign up for this class....https://suarezinternational.com/crg-5-zero-to-five-feet-gunfighting-april-04-05-2020-rocky-face-ga/?ctk=7889db7c-7def-44ec-8e03-0ff1844e4a60

Harris Combative Strategies Defensive Concepts for Low Light Environments https://www.eventbrite.com/e/defensive-concepts-for-low-light-environments-tickets-89268334993 Date: Saturday March 21 Time: 5PM - 12AM Eastern Time Location: The Ridge Dayton TN. (http://www.theridgeshooting.com/) Price $160 ($50 Deposit to hold spot - See details below). Instructor: Randy Harris Instructor Bio This class will cover some critical skills which include shooting with and without the help of flashlights in low or no light. We will work both proactively challenging unknown potential threats and also reacting to unexpected close range attacks in low light settings. You will see just how much light you really need to accurately shoot by and how much light you actually need to ID targets. We will also cover manipulating the pistol in the dark both with and without a light in our hands. We will load , unload and clear malfunctions with and without flashlights. A fair amount of time will also be devoted to using the flashlight as a tool to help you get deselected in the "pre fight interview" , use the light as a distraction device and impact weapon, and as a bridge from less lethal to lethal force. Range Gear and requirements : Handheld flashlight (Surefire 6P, G2, Streamlight Scorpion or similar). Extra batteries. Pistol and holster designed to be worn on the belt. Two spare mags (3 total minimum) and a mag pouch. Range Safety gear (eye and ear protection) . Clothing appropriate for weather. Snacks and drinks. You are welcome to bring something to eat for dinner. There are also several close fast food places like Taco Bell or Subway to grab something if you chose to do that during our dinner break. Ammo: Approximately 250 rounds. If you have a weapon mounted light for your pistol and want to use it for some drills then please bring it too. If your carry pistol has a light that is fine too just make sure it fits your holster. If you have a "blue gun" or airsoft gun and training knife or inert "trainer" pepper spray you want to bring feel free to do so. We will be doing some interactive exercises where students will play the role of both good guys and bad guys to get a better feel for just what each experiences when the techniques are applied in low light. If you don't see it from both sides you only know about half of what is going on.  Payments in full can be made through Eventbrite. http:// https://www.eventbrite.com/e/defensive-concepts-for-low-light-environments-tickets-89268334993 I can also take a $50 deposit through either Venmo, Paypal or by check mailed to me. A $50 deposit will hold a spot for you in this class. Balance due at class. You are also welcome to pay in full in advance too. We are limiting it to 16 students. To register or for more info either PM me here at TGO or email me at Randy@harriscombative.com. Deposit Payments can be made with a check (contact Randy for details) or through... Venmo at www.venmo.com/Randy-Harris-47 Paypal at Cruelhandluke2000@yahoo.com (friends & family option)

Suarez International Red Dot Combat Pistol School March 13-15, 2020 Dayton, Tennessee Price : $500 Instructor: Randy Harris Instructor Bio THIS IS NOT A "BASIC LEVEL CLASS" PLEASE BRING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE FUNDAMENTALS OF MARKSMANSHIP AND UNDERSTANDING OF FUNDAMENTALS OF SAFE GUN HANDLING. In this class, red dot pistol shooters will learn everything we have learned from running the red dot system since 2009. We will discuss everything from maintenance to carry and of course how to employ the modern combat handgun equipped with a red dot from zero contact to as far as the range will allow. If you are the owner of a red dot-equipped pistol, and carry it for self defense (like we do) this is an event you cannot miss. Each day will end with a debriefing session where any and all questions will be answered to the best of our knowledge and experience. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 3 days TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 500-1000 rounds (we will shoot as much as you want to shoot), and the usual stuff you bring to a high speed low drag "bitchin guy" class. RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Bring your red dot pistol and appropriate belt, holster, spare mags, ear/eye protection etc. If you do not have a red dot pistol we have a limited number of red dot pistols available for rent. The rental cost will be $50, please call in advance to arrange rental. 423 827 9133. Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County Hwy, Hwy 27 Dayton, TN 37321 423-605-4242 http://www.theridgeshooting.com/ For more info and to sign up for this class..... https://suarezinternational.com/red-dot-combat-pistol-school-march-13-15-2020-dayton-tn/

I generally carry either a G34 or G17 but have been spending a fair amount of time lately with a full size Sig320 . The only time I carry anything smaller than a full size pistol is if wardrobe simply will not allow a full size pistol to be carried. And since IWB carry makes barrel length irrelevant in regards to concealability, anything that I can wear a belt and an untucked shirt with allows me to carry a full size pistol. Now if I'm stuck with having to tuck in my shirt and I cannot wear a coat or vest to cover it due to weather (too hot) or "dress code" (leaving jacket or suit coat on would be out of place) then yes a pocket carried or ankle carried gun is going to need to be smaller than full size. But barring overriding wardrobe issues, a full size pistol is what I chose to carry every day. Smaller pistols are generally easier to conceal.... Just like a "Smart Car" takes up less space in your garage and gets better gas mileage than a full size car....but the Smart Car has no storage space and is not ideal for adult size humans to drive comfortably for long trips....just like a subcompact or a Jframe are often not comfortable to practice with (which leads to people carrying guns for the purpose of saving their lives that they don't ever practice with....YIKES ). A J-frame (or a subcompact auto) is easier to carry if you dress like you are going to work out at the gym or if you chose to dress in skinny jeans and tapered shirts....but they suck to fight with compared to full size pistols.... and I was always under the assumption that I was carrying a gun in case I actually had to use it...not just as a pacifier to make me feel better or as a talisman to ward off evil . As such I want the most effective and easiest to fight with gun I can carry.

On Saturday FEBRUARY 22 we will hold our first meeting for the TN/GA/AL Regional Suarez Int Training Group for 2020 ! (This was rescheduled to Feb 22 from Feb 8 due to the snow storm) Subject : Getting shot sucks...get off the X !!! Instructor: Tier 1 Suarez Int Staff Instructor Randy Harris Location: The Regular place - 763 CR 332 Pisgah Al Time: 9AM CENTRAL time - 3PM CENTRAL time Price: $80 - pay at class cash or check. What you need to bring: Pistol, pistol magazines and at least 150-200 rounds of ammo. Revolvers are welcome if you want to party like it is 1899. We will work on our pistol skills specifically getting off the X in reactive situations, retaking the initiative and counter attacking. If your skills you learned in Close Range Gunfighting have gotten a little rusty this is the tune up you need! We will also run some "man on man" drills to test skills and add a little motivation. Most ranges don't allow you to just show up and shoot while moving so don't miss out on this opportunity ! Looking forward to seeing you there!

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Suarez International CRG-1: PISTOL GUNFIGHTING February 1-2, 2020 Dayton, TN Price: $350 Instructor: Randy Harris ( Instructor Bio ) All training must begin with fundamentals. This comprehensive fundamentals class is designed to prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. Through a carefully designed and detailed curriculum we are able to bring you up to a level of skill in a short two day class that previously would take over 4 or 5 days to achieve at other schools. You will learn a complete presentation of the modern combative technique of the pistol which will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. We will also be incorporating fundamental Point Shooting techniques which will prep you for more advanced courses. You will learn the components of various point shooting methods and integrate them into your existing skill sets. This knowledge will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. No experience or prior training is needed to attend this class and it is specially suitable for beginners, or as a tune-up for accomplished shooters. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 2 days TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 300 rounds (Minimum) RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County Hwy, Hwy 27 Dayton, TN 37321 423-605-4242 http://www.theridgeshooting.com/ DIRECTIONS: Range is located on HWY 27 just north of Dayton TN Take HWY 27 North from Dayton TN. Go 3.2 miles. Look for mailbox with a glock on it on the right hand side of the road. Take the paved driveway up the hill. For more info and to sign up....https://suarezinternational.com/crg-1-pistol-gunfighting-february-1-2-2020-dayton-tn/?ctk=341c7eaf-81c0-44aa-8b97-b4e5b1e0dc23 ALSO there is a $50 discount if you sign up for both this class and the Shotgun class on Jan 31 ( https://suarezinternational.com/hits-defensive-shotgun-january-31-2019-dayton-tn/ )

Suarez International HITS Defensive Shotgun January 31, 2019 Dayton, TN Price: $200 Instructor: Randy Harris ( Instructor Bio ) The shotgun is the top choice among Americans for limited role home defense. In its niche it is a devastating weapon. This one day class will teach you everything you need to know to employ this iconic American fighting tool to its best utility. CLASS AND RANGE DETAILS DURATION: 1 days TIME: 8:30AM to 4:30PM AMMUNITION: 100 Rounds Birdshot, 50 rounds Buckshot, and 15 Slugs. 50 Rounds of Pistol Ammo RANGE & GEAR REQUIREMENTS: Bring a Shotgun with a Sling and a Pistol with a serviceable holster. Also Helpful Bring spare clothing appropriate for the weather, including a hat, sunscreen, and bug repellent. Plan to bring lunch, snacks, and water (min 1 gallon per person) for the entire day unless driving to lunch is a viable option from the range location. Bring allergy medication (if needed), a chair (if you prefer), note taking supplies, and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). You may wish to bring pads such as knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves if the class lends itself to that. RANGE: The Ridge 11534 Rhea County Hwy, Hwy 27 Dayton, TN 37321 423-605-4242 http://www.theridgeshooting.com/ DIRECTIONS: Range is located on HWY 27 just north of Dayton TN Take HWY 27 North from Dayton TN. Go 3.2 miles. Look for mailbox with a Glock on it on the right hand side of the road. Take the paved driveway up the hill. If you get to the golf course on hwy 27 you have gone too far. Just a short ride from Chattanooga or Cleveland. For more info and to register for this class.....https://suarezinternational.com/hits-defensive-shotgun-january-31-2019-dayton-tn/ Also there is a $50 discount if combined with the Pistol Gunfighting class on Feb 1-2 (https://suarezinternational.com/crg-1-pistol-gunfighting-february-1-2-2020-dayton-tn/?ctk=341c7eaf-81c0-44aa-8b97-b4e5b1e0dc23)

We can GUESS at what it is from the video but we really need to see it live with ammo to see exactly what the hands are doing. We ideally want to apply pressure with the shooting hand front to back like gripping a pair of pliers or a multi tool. And then the support hand applies side to side pressure like a "C clamp" and once the pressure is applied it does not change. No "milking the cow" with the fingers. The only movement should be the trigger finger acting in isolation from all the others and we want the pressure on the trigger to be applied STRAIGHT BACK. But again it is easier to see exactly what is going on with your grip and trigger press in person.

THREE days to go! Hope to see you on Saturday!

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REMINDER !!! This is coming up in 10 days!!!!! TN / GA / AL Training Group THANKSGIVING TRAINING DAY On Saturday November 16 we will hold our "Thanksgiving" meeting for the TN/GA/AL Regional Suarez Int Training Group for 2019! Instructor: Tier 1 Suarez Int Staff Instructor Randy Harris Location: Phillips/Edwards Farm 763 County Rd 332 Pisgah AL 35765 Time: 9AM CENTRAL time - 3PM CENTRAL time Price: $80 - pay at class cash or check . What you need to bring: Subcompact Pistol, BELT HOLSTER, pistol magazines and at least 150 rounds of ammo. Snubby Revolvers are welcome if you want to party like it is 1959. Thanksgiving Training Day on Sat Nov 16 will be a Subcompact/Pocket Pistol day. We carry 'em because they are convenient but lets see what we can actually DO with them. Snubby or Auto either one (or both?) and you will need at least 150 rds of ammo. So grab your Kahr or your Glock 26 or 43 or SW Shield or SW J frame for that matter and come on out. We will be doing a full spectrum test of our capabilities - everything from getting off the X close range reactive skills to mid range and even some long range work and of course we will finish up with a man on man shoot off for the Thanksgiving Championship. (If you don't have a subcompact pistol I can provide a loaner- just let me know in advance).

The "Beto Male" was never going to get elected anyway. He was a media fabrication and wishful thinking at best on the part of the libs. He lost to Ted Cruz after raising $80 million in campaign donations from libs all over the country. That is the most $$$ ever raised for a senate candidate and he STILL lost to a very unpopular at the time Ted Cruz. The guy is a kook who took the most far left positions he could and he would not have any hope to win a presidential general election. Maybe he can get a job with Biden's kid.....