Jamie Jackson

I think Luke and Serbu pretty much nailed it.   I was recently reading an article regarding the growth of firearm purchases over the last several years...and it is dramatic. For that I'm glad....more members in our ranks. Buy more members needing ammo too.     And I don't have any issue with any shooter stocking back any amount of ammo they choose. I know I kick myself in the butt for not putting back 10 or more cases of Blazer 9mm back when Academy sold it at $89.00/1000 as recently as 2006. But I didn't...so my bad.   When I find a bargain I'll consider it. But I handload the vast majority of my ammo these days and focus my limited funds towards that particular addiction.       Scalpers...hustlers and carnies ...  and I mean no disrespect to the hustlers and carnies. :cool:

I just wanted to bump this back up for any updates and/or new suggestions.   I completed Book 6 of the Holding their Own" series by Joe Nobody (Bishop's Song) and found it to be right on par with the rest of the series, meaning, imho, excellent.   I'm just starting the "Dark Grid" series and the first book looks promising so far. http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Grid-When-Lights-Permanently/dp/1468079158/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389191290&sr=1-3&keywords=dark+grid+series     Robert: What do you think of "The Carrington Effect: a novel of hope" by Andrew B. Dill so far?

Don't worry Spiffy...   We just ran around air-gunning and going "BANG" "BANG" "BANG"...no live ammo nor animals were harmed during our practice sessions as my scores attest to. :surrender:       Brasil is correct Rickey...we'd be happy to have you as a neighbor my friend. :pleased:       I like the IDPA = "I Don't Practice Anymore!" Spiffy... that's funny. :up:

Welcome aboard.   And Thank you for your service Sir.

  Congrats Brasil!   Well done Sir.   Great shooting by all of you guys! :up:           It sounds like there's a story to be told about that flat...   Gunshot Wound? Sabotage? Flat only on one side?   Inquiring minds... :pleased:

LOL. I'm glad you enjoyed the pickles Brasil.   "picklegasm"...You are just inviting abuse Brother. :cool:       I saw Spiffy pull over when I was leaving...and asked if he needed help...but he flagged me around him. I guess he wanted you to watch him change his tire...go figure... :popcorn:     Rickey my friend, if I hadn't taken notes I couldn't have remembered to post about the match! LOL.     I'm looking forward to the next match for sure.

Good link and point Randall.   In my experience, we...as a society...want a prescription for "something" every time we see a physician or NP or PA...just so we "feel" they are doing "something".   Antibiotics don't "kill" a bacteria in the generally accepted sense.. They were never designed to do so. They interfere in cell wall growth or formation (RNA/DNA) in some manner, allowing the body to complete the job....oversimplified explanation I know...   Link: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-do-antibiotics-kill-b   One issue as far as the proliferation of superbugs is, as Randall mentioned, overuse and or inappropriate use and (my biggest pet peeve) not completing the antibiotic dose regime. Incomplete dosing (i.e. having "left over" antibiotics) as folks sometimes do because they stop taking them when symptoms diminish only accelerates the bacteria's ability to develop resistance. The length of time an antibiotic is prescribed for isn't an arbitrary time frame, but a length of time and dosing scientifically proven to be optimal for elimination of that particular organism...   My point being that if a person chooses to store antibiotics just to make sure you know when to use them, which one is needed for what type of bacterial infection, be aware of drug allergies and interactions, learn the treatment regimes, and don't use them for viral infections in general... You don't have to go to medical school to be safe on this. Great info is available...both online and from your health care provider...while you still have one anyway thanks to the Unobtainable Care Act and .gov....     "Where there is no Doctor", "Ditch Medicine", A PDR (Physician's Desk reference) and a "Dorland's Medical Dictionary" aren't bad to have on hand for SHTF.   The TC3 or "Tactical Combat Casualty Care" guidelines are pretty helpful as well.     Thanks to the OP for the topic btw... I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat today anyway. :cool:

This is a topic of interest to me as well.   It is my understanding that the antibiotics used in veterinary medicine is exactly the same as used for humans...same manufacture, same equipment, just different labeling.   There was a study conducted by our military several years back entitled SLEP or Shelf Life Extension Program. Our military was trashing countless millions of dollars worth of meds related to an arbitrary expiration date agreed upon by the FDA and Pharmaceutical companies. This study (which was pulled from general circulation...you can Google it for more details) indicated that the vast majority of oral antibiotics maintain up to or greater than 90% of their efficacy 10-15 years after their expiration date. As with all things LTS (long term storage) protecting the items from extreme temperature changes, moisture, light and oxygen dramatically extend their shelf life. IIRC liquid medications ( IV antibiotics) did not store as well, nor as long. The vast majority of IV antibiotics we use are in powder form and mixed prior to administration.   Big Pharma makes big bucks selling meds and on disease maintenance...so I'm sure they were really happy about the SLEP and wanted the info freely given to the public... :squint:   The SLEP is still listed via a few .gov websites, but access is restricted. I've had a couple of my prepper buds that happen to be physicians try to sign up to gain access, but were denied as they were not active military not .gov employees. ymmv.   Regards the tetracycline like antibiotics. As best I have been able to discover that concern over "outdated" tetracycline being deadly stems from a case in 1960 or 1961 where a patient with multiorgan system failure and complicated disease processes died...the most recent antibiotic having been tried being tetracycline and the drug was blamed for his death...which was imminent anyway. And so the legend of deadly tetracycline was born. Now bear in mind that I in no way recommend anyone storing any medication, nor purchasing any medication from any source you an uncomfortable with. Most folks may just be surprised how helpful your primary care physician would be in helping you to build up a reasonable supply of appropriate non-controlled medications. My advice is to simply express your concerns and needs with them in a reasonable manner...I probably wouldn't mention zombies ( although I'm certain more than a few inhabit our local Emergency rooms late at night :cool: ).     Just my unsolicited and ever devaluing :2cents: .    

That was a fun match! And the weather actually turned out great...much better than the snow storm last year!     I doubt Mike Madden ever looks on here (he should). I shot in his squad yesterday and just wanted to say Thanks to Mike. He is a genuinely a good guy. We had several new shooters in our group and Mike spent a great deal of time helping them get grounded, and feel welcome. +1 to Mike.     I only get to shoot matches about 6 months out of the year because of my work schedule. So it was good to see Brasil, Spiffy, Johnny, Nathan et al. Got to meet DL and Rickey (Rickey already told me he'd forget who I was by the end of the day...LOL) ...I'm the old fart that looks like a skinny Col. Sanders...only I'm broke, yet alive. :pleased:       btw...are you guys saying that air-gunning by flashlight is unethical?   I think Brasil uses NVD's anyway... :cool:

    LOL...me either.    But a man can dream. :pleased:

Heck of a job on the Colt.   Man...that would have tempted me to tweak it a bit more into  Fitz Special. Something I always wanted to do, but just never got around to having it done.   Thanks for posting the pics.

Great photos all.   But I'm really liking the sawed off 12 g and Bucheimer (or facsimile) Blackjack...Old school but stills Rocks. :up:

I've shot untold thousands of rounds of jacketed handloads through my Glock's (17-19-26).   About all I handload these days are 147 gr lead rounds. But as mentioned above I purchased aftermarket barrels and I now have peace of mind. In my case I picked up a couple of Lone Wolf barrels and a "U" die or "undersize die" because of the much tighter tolerances in the Lone Wold barrels. Reliability is remarkable, and of course, the rounds are capable of much greater accuracy than I am. :cool:   Good read from Runco above btw. :up:

Holy Cow!   Congratulations to Andrew! :up:   Andrew is solid people, extremely knowledgeable & a talented instructor. "Hard Core" is an understatement. Andrew is 110% on everything he puts his mind to....and one of the nicest guys you could ever meet.   Thanks for posting this Clod Stomper.

Very well, and passionately, said.   We need more folks like this. :up:     I ran across this yesterday and sent it out to some friends.

    Just to senselessly add to the hippie ass kicking reference...my favorite version is from The New Riders of the Purple Sage     "Up against the Wall (Redneck Mother)"       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP8AxTgZ2g0       :cool:

God Bless bersaguy.   Sometimes life is kinda bumpy Brother. Thoughts are with you.

Prayers sent...for all. God Bless.

    I would certainly be interested. Like I mentioned above, I'm in the market, but have budgetary concerns. This sounds promising.       Thanks for the reply S.L.F. :hat:

    I don't mean to derail this thread. I'm in the market as well and was/am considering an Aimpoint PRO. I have an EOTech and it serves it's intended role well. But I'd like some affordable low power magnification that will serve for close range as well. Money is a consideration.   Could you tell me more about your lemonade? :pleased:

Thanks for posting whitewolf. :up:   I too like spam-can AK ammo for LTS.

Excellent discussion. There are some very good points being made...6.8, Dennis, Dolomite, and others.   I think on many levels it comes down to trust. Trust in our fellow citizens, will they/we do what's right? Demand what's right? or, as for so long, will apathy prevail? Folks...I just don't know...   My gut tells me the best path is through regaining control at a local, and State, level. Active involvement and participation.   Our elected officials at the Federal level have proven time and again that they do not represent us...they only represent their own desire for personal power. They have for many years ignored our Constitution and bastardized and morphed the 3 branches into unrecognizable entities. What makes anyone think they would adhere to any move to restore our God Given and Constitutionally (supposedly) Protected Rights?   I wish I had more faith in our system...make that our collective desire and willingness to sacrifice to ensure that the "system" works.   I don't even recognize the America I grew up in anymore. To quote the book, "I Miss America".   I accept responsibility for my own apathy and inaction in my life. We hang our own swords.   But it's the "Rule of Unintended Consequences" that I am most concerned about should a Con-Con occur.   I haven't read Levin's book...maybe I should.   I don't know where this all will lead. But I do see where we're going if we continue to do nothing. And it doesn't bode well for what's left of us.   Whatever path we choose, I guess we choose along with the consequences of that choice. I personally will continue to Pray for guidance.   But my concern, my fear, is that a Con-Con will send that balloon up...maybe it's what's needed...maybe it's inevitable.   :2cents:

My vote would be for Gold Dot 124 gr +P.   I still have a few boxes of Black Hills 124 gr +P from when they used the Gold Dot bullets. (I think Black Hills uses the XTP bullet nowadays.) I've been carrying the Black Hills version for over 10 years.   I do like the recoil impulse of the 147 gr bullet though...I plan to pick up more of those when availability and budget allow.

Thank you Tanker. That reminder is appreciated.   Happy Thanksgiving to all of our extended TGO family.   God Bless.

LOL   That's Max Michel.   Max's father and uncles used to shoot with our club in South MS. Great folks. Max senior was a pretty remarkable shooter. But Junior? Heck, he was incredible at 14 years of age.   Way to go Max! :up:   Thanks for posting the vid Tanker.