Chucktshoes

While analogous in some ways, it isn't really an equal comparison. Alcohol has a diminishing effect on the human body in two ways. It diminishes judgment and it diminishes motor control, both fine and gross. I would rate the loss of those three things thusly. Diminished fine motor control Diminished judgement Loss of fine motor control/diminished gross motor control Loss of judgement Loss of gross motor control The primary issue folks have with mixing alcohol and firearms is diminished judgement. If you drink to the point that your judgement is diminished enough to make you a danger with a gun, you are a danger without a gun. Many folks have diminished fine motor control due to myriad reasons such as physical maladies or age. That doesn't make them inherently unsafe with a firearm, just maybe less accurate. One doesn't really become physically unsafe to handle a firearm until they begin to lose gross motor control. Cars are a bit different. Operating a car can become dangerous for others as soon as one experiences diminished fine motor control. Slowed reaction times, the ability to keep hands steady/feet firmly on the pedal with the proper amount of force. These are all examples of diminished fine motor skills that make not just drunk folks dangerous in a car, but seniors or folks with certain disabilities as well. One may be physically unable to safely operate a car well before one loses the ability to make good judgements on how to safely operate it. *For simplicity's sake let me say that I am considering the reduction of mental acuity in the ability to process and react to stimuli to be a symptom of diminished physical ability as opposed to a symptom of diminished judgment. Diminished judgement is the increased likelihood of engaging in "hey y'all, watch this!" type of behavior.*

I would agree and don't see any conflict in our statements. I would even go so far to say that your statement can be used to support my position.

I take a slightly different position. Legalities aside, if you having a few drinks makes you unsafe around a firearm, you were already unsafe around one independent of the other. It is best to find out which and eliminate it from your life.

Flamethrower is the bouncer's nickname.

This. Almonds can't produce milk anymore than I can. :dirty:

You know me, I'm not picky. I'll take either or any variation in between. :lol:

Beefalo? Is that when you're getting some beef on the down low?

I'm only home in Memphis 4 days a month. :cry:   It does seem like a self correcting problem to me as well.

I bet it will be soon if it isn't already.

You know you can tell it's a 70's porno? His dick has sideburns.

So what you're saying is to stop in Brentwood and get my blow on the way in?

But I don't go to those places. I do go to Clarksville. :rofl:

So you are saying that when I am in Clarksville I can get my blow pretty much wherever in the rest of Clarksville, but I should get my hookers close to the base?

It's a shame really. His premise wasn't incorrect, he just couldn't discuss it like a reasonable person.

I don't. I wear a nylon riggers style belt and I just loosen the belt enough to unbutton my jeans and drop trou. Then I spread my legs slightly so as to provide just a little tension and the belt holds the top of my pants just below the knee and above the calf. I don't even unholster. Everything stays in the same position it is on my waist. :D

Or maybe they were just better at disguising their bias?

This is beautiful.

I'll be honest, I don't know how the show has treated all of that. I haven't seen it since the end of season 2.

This. As has already been mentioned, I think, the media FINALLY has their racist mass murderer. The rhetoric has already been wound up to 11. Not helpful on any front that I can see.

You've touched on why I think the handgun is being overlooked in this discussion. I think there is good reason why it is likely the primary bump-in-the-night home defense weapon for most of us. If I am able to stay stationary or mostly so, my AR is my preferred choice. If I have to move about the house and open doors or possibly corral my daughter, my M&P is the preferred option simply because it can be more easily used with one hand. The ability to use it one handed while using the other hand for doors/kid is why I eliminated the shotgun from the HD options entirely. Hell, I don't even own a shotgun as I just didn't have a use for it anymore. Another reason my M&P is my primary is simply because I spend the most time shooting it and it is the weapon I am most proficient with. All the firepower in the world won't make a bit of difference if I can't use it effectively.

While I don't like "hate crime" laws as they criminalize thought, I have to admit that this is lining up to be a textbook definition of one.