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If you live in the Chattanooga area, and are looking for an SKS, today is your lucky day. Three suddenly appeared in today's Times Free Press classified section... http://www.mouseguns.com/class/feb2009.htm

The Maadi AK with the thumbhole stock is very like a Chinese MAK90. If you can get one for under $600, you have done well, although a year ago you could get a good MAK90 for $450.

I renewed mine in Chattanooga, and it took less than 60 days. Just got it a week ago.

Lighten up, gentlemen. First, our money is not yet worthless. I got four boxes of 40SW yesterday for $12.47 per box of 50. Second, it WILL decline in value (inflation), but it won't happen overnight. So, go out and stock up on ammo. It is the poor man's substitue for silver or gold, and quite possibly a better investment. The slide will be gradual, and there is time to prepare.

WalMart Blazer Brass 40SW is $12.47 per box of 50. 180 grain, fmj.

Two boxes of 7.62x39 left. No .45. A few boxes of 40SW. No 9mm. I asked about the 9mm, and the clerk says that they are receiving the normal amount, but that as soon as they put it on the shelf, someone comes along and buys it all right away. I believe the shortage is being caused by all of us, as we are stocking up, "just in case." We are no longer taking it for granted that the ammo will be there when we want it.

I could never see any sense in the grip safety on the XD. To me, it is just one more thing to go wrong at the wrong time. I vote for GLOCK simplicity.

It's not time yet....when the troopers go door to door, seaching houses for guns, then the time will have arrived. I hope the day will never come.

OK, I paid my money and had my photo taken on 12/03/08. Today is 01/29/09. So, it took 56 days to get my new permit, good for another four years.

You pay your money and take your chances. Some turn out good, and some don't, even of the same model.

I copied this from the surplusrifleforum.com I was being a little tongue in cheek. The way I read the stickies it is absolutely illegal to put a Tech Sight on a Yugo SKS. That is because it is only importable because it is C&R, and putting such a site on it would most assuredly take it out of as-issued condition. If that were the *only* change you made to the rifle, you would have committed a felony. However, if you were to take the exact same rifle, install the Tapco compliance kit plus muzzle brake -- and then put on the Tech Sights, it would be perfectly legal. I was being tongue-in-cheek because the law is stupid. In fact, it could be persuasively argued that anyone who has created a 922r compliant gun went through steps to do so that involved the creation of several intermediate weapons -- each creation being good for 10 years in prison. So how many parts do you change to become compliant? 9? 10? So -- on the way to compliance, I've created 5 illegal weapons in that process. If, while in the middle of that process, the ATF walked in, I would be caught red-handed in the commission of a felony. Take off the bayonet -- felony. Remove the grenade launcher and put on the muzzle brake -- felony. Take off the stock and put on a new one -- felony. All the way up to the point that everything is in place. A person with a 922r compliant Yugo is carrying proof in his hands -- prima facie evidence -- of 5 counts of manufacturing an illegal weapon. 50 years in prison at least. But let me take it a step further. You take your newly 922r compliant SKS to the range complete with its US-made 20-round removable magazine. You take the magazine out of the rifle. Guess what? At that point the majority of the rifle's content is foreign made and you are now in possession of an illegal gun and committing a felony. Provably so. If the ATF is there snapping pictures and catch you with the magazine out of the rifle -- you're toast. (I'm chuckling here because it IS technically true! Better get a U.S. made trigger group, because without it removing the magazine from your compliant rifle makes it illegal. Do you reckon a judge would consider a charge on that basis ludicrous? I'd hope so, but maybe not. I've been informed that judges use sentencing guidelines without regard to how stupid a law is.) I knew of a fellow in Baltimore who had politically incorrect ideas. The content of the ideas isn't important. What is important is that his case confirms exactly what you are saying. They raided his house over a suspected (and nonexistent) gun crime. Couldn't find any evidence. But what they DID find was 12 pounds of gunpowder for reloading; which in his case exceeded that allowed under the local ordinance. (Local ordinance only allowed 10). As he and his wife both knew about the 12 pounds of gunpowder, and gunpowder is federally regulated, they charged him with federal conspiracy etc etc. So I totally understand that if a person has already made himself a target of the federal government (whether he should actually BE a target or not is immaterial) that anything and everything that can be thrown at him will. Expired prescription in the medicine cabinet? 5 years for each one. Too much gunpowder not stored in a regulation magazine or stored out of accordance with local ordinances? Another 5 years. Put a tech site on your Yugo SKS without also doing the compliance kit? 10 years. Do a compliance kit but remove the magazine for storage? 10 years. I know how this works. A friend of mine is an organic farmer who raises rabbits for meat. He happens to have politically incorrect opinions and made himself a very public nuisance to the status quo. He produced a how-to video showing how to kill, and prepare a rabbit. The feds got hold of it, sent it to the local constabulary, and he was charged with felonious animal cruelty. (The "secret indictment" described the rabbit as a "pet" even though it was livestock raised for meat; but by describing it as a pet that made the activity a felony.) No doubt, tens of thousands of dollars later he will beat the rap, but his life has been turned upside down. Sometimes, the point isn't even whether or not "they" will win in court, but to destroy lives and create a chilling effect. In essence, as they can't get around the first amendment and prosecute people directly for their opinions (yet), they will instead prosecute any out of millions of laws that are available. So, unfortunately, I completely understand what you are saying. But I can also tell you this: if you've made yourself that big of a thorn in big brother's side; I sincerely doubt complying with 922r will be enough to keep you out of prison -- even if you've done nothing else that you know to be illegal. They WILL find something. There are millions of laws under which you can (and will) be prosecuted, at least 75% of which I am certain most people don't even know exist. They get around double-jeopardy restrictions by charging people with 5 different crimes for the same act. (Have you ever read an insecticide package that tells you it is a violation of federal law to use the product in any way inconsistent with the label? If you use it for another insect that is NOT specifically listed on the label, you are committing a felony. Did you use wasp spray on a spider? Tsk tsk! Felony. My point is if they want you that badly, they'll get you; so stop worrying.) Obviously, being 922r compliant is to be preferred. It's always better to be compliant with the law. But nobody should be under the illusion that if the federal government REALLY wants to get them that compliance with every law imaginable would be sufficient. If my buddy hadn't made the rabbit video, they would have found something else. There are enough laws out there (especially tax laws) that most people in the country can be considered to be un-indicted felons. It's just a question of whether or not you get the feds mad at you. So, yes, if someone has very public and very politically incorrect opinions, sends money to Al Queda or runs a child prostitution ring -- they'll get nailed. And it will be good to be 922r compliant as that will make the difference between getting out of jail in 225 years instead of 235. I'm still chuckling. Don't consider anything I'm saying on this topic to be deadly serious, 'cause I'm not trying to be. It's hard to see me smiling through plaintext. I just think the whole thing is ridiculous. The only way to be 100% certain of avoiding violation of gun laws is to sell all your guns -- and sell them to an FFL at that -- and give him all of your ammunition and everything else associated with firearms. Even better would be to turn them in at one of the gun buyback programs that promises non-prosecution. There are -- what -- over 40,000 gun laws on the books. Nobody knows them all. Many of them are obscure regulations, executive orders and the like. If you aren't going to give up your guns, then just do the best you can to comply with everything you know about. But am I worried that big brother knows whether or not I buy ammo? No. I believe whatever big brother says I should believe.

Did you know there is a Rohrbaugh Forum? http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/

Get a GLOCK 19. and a Marlin 30/30. Then you are all set, and 30/30 and 9mm are plentiful. If you shop carefully and buy used firearms, you can get BOTH your pistol and your rifle.

If you change anything on a YUGO, you have probably committed a Federal felony, and will be locked away forever. Fed gun laws are downright STUPID and irritating.

The Yugo SKS is a "curio and relic." The Chinese Norinco is NOT.

A 20 round box of .338 Lapua will run you about $120.00. This is a rifle for rich guys! But, if you can afford it, more power to you! http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=104848

Please post chapter and verse. Thanks!

Firearms by a TKO! All anti-gun legislation will crash on the rocks of the Constitution.

Fenris, I believe you are correct. But depending on what state you pick it up in, and drive home through, I would have it in a locked box in the trunk.

Plus 1 RD and R11 -- long guns are OK

I would only add that your ammo stash need not be "self-defense" ammo. Good old fmj ammo will serve you just as well in a TEOTWAWKI situation. How much is 1000 rounds of hollow point 40S&W? Let's see, at $25 per box of 20, that comes out to: $1,250.00. I don't think I can afford it. But I can get Blazer Brass at $12.97 per 50, which comes to a bit less than $260. I agree that GLOCKS and other "hi-cap" pistols may be outlawed some time in the next four years. So if you don't have a GLOCK, get one now. Not bad advice.

The public school system has been attacking the concept of personal responsibility for the past 60 years. I remember often in grade school 50 years ago, if some kid did something wrong, it was practice to punish the entire class. This crazy concept has been drilled into us. I suspect they teach it to student teachers when they are going to college and learning how to teach. It is an insidious evil. Our prayers are with you in Crossville.

Most of us take this little tid-bit of knowledge for-granted, but maybe some of you newer folks reading this don't know -- you cannot (legally) buy a handgun out of state. Some friends of mine (married couple) recently got their carry permits in Chattanooga, and were quite excited about buying a new S&W airweight 38 for the wife. They called me last night pretty disappointed! They had gone over the state line to Georgia to a big gun show, had a great time shopping, found the gun they wanted, and the dealer said "No!" They were so surprised to find out they could buy an AK47, if they wanted, but were not allowed to buy a little handgun. Remember folks, Federal Gun Laws are STOOOOOPID! You cannot legally buy a handgun out of state, either from an individual or a gun shop (or at a gun show). You can buy long guns, but not handguns. No sense at all to this law, but that's the way it is. One exception: You can buy the handgun from the FFL dealer, then he can ship it to another dealer in your state, charging you both for shipping and a handling fee, and then you can get the gun from the second dealer. Again: STOOOOPID. But what do you expect from the Fed Gov?

Hixson WalMart had 5 boxes of 40SW this afternoon (Jan 24). I took three, and left two. No 9mm available.

Universal firearm registration is the prelude to universal fiream confiscation. I urge everyone to just say "NO!" http://www.mouseguns.com/no.htm