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Truthfully, both have about the same reliability track record, both of which are pretty good. THP and few other smaller departments used the Sigmas for a little while with few complaints. The trigger in the Sigma and the P11 are night and day different, and not well liked by many. The P-11 you can find cheap magazines for and would conceal easier, it would be about the smallest gun I would want to use for home defense. The Sigma would be a better range gun and a better home defense gun, concealing one is easily done but it will never be a pocket gun. Why those two? Neither one dominates within its own category of firearms. The SD series as previously mentioned is a better gun, possibly one of the best values when buy a factory new firearm.

Smith will replace anything that breaks on the gun.

Understandable, but he didn't ask about the SD.

I thought the Pf9 was awesome until I shot one and realized how brutal they were. The P11 that I owned was very reliable, took S&W magazines, and was a joy to shoot and carry. I probably should have kept it. The Sigma has had issues with breaking firing pins. Years ago when I went through the police academy we had two guys with Sigmas, the instructor said before hand that we normally break about half of the Sigmas that come through here. At about 400 rounds one of them stopped firing, the other one shot about 1k rounds that week and never stopped.

I have never been a fan of a diesel(unless it has a heavy load on it 90% of the time it is on the road). The maintenance cost are crazy, my stepfather drives a 7.3 power stroke with under 200k miles that is in need of a $8k engine replacement. My old boss was constantly having to spend thousands on our work trucks (fords, isuzus, and Chevrolets)that really didn't get worked that hard, the two gas trucks cost us less to keep on the road.

You have a better understanding about buying than most, the majority of people think that they are smart consumers but they are clueless. My wife and I both had a career in car sales when we were barely old enough to drive, we have both seen dealerships sell a car at a loss on the front end and make thousands on the back end of the deal.

To be perfectly fair to the department, to achieve a CALEA certification which would result In bragging rights, cheaper liability insurance, and a few extra things, the department needed to replace their 4 plus year old Glocks. However they could have gotten new Glocks which would have only cost about $100 each to upgrade each Glock for a new Glock. The majority of the officers really wanted the Sigs, it's been the chosen upgrade amongst a lot of departments in the state(Chattanooga PD, East Ridge PD).

A friend up there tells me that about 30 or so of their swat guys got Sig 1911, they have been less than perfect but overall they are satisfied. They have had a few malfunctions and two of the guns have had to go back to Sig.

I have not seen a whole lot of .380 ammo in the last year, not quite .22 mag rarity though. Before when I have brought it up people swore it was easily found.

A 4" 686 is not bad with magnums and they aren't that hard to find(pricey, but worth it). It's not like you are stuck with magnums, .38 spl ammo would be mild.

I shot one tonight, the trigger does feel a little stiff but I think it has to do with the small size making it feel that way. I could see a use for one, it is smaller than my Shield but it recoils more because of its small size. This one belongs to a friend, he says it has been perfect with various FMJ, LRN, and Federal HP, he tried some Hornady and all but 3 FTF.

I have seen some 32acp lately, I still had my p32 when I found two boxes of Fiocchi 7.65 Browning for $13.99/50. I knew I would probably never take it to the range again but new I should grab both boxes anyway. I ended selling the p32 about two months later. Word of caution, Ruger does not recommend hot ammo out of the LCP. I have had the take down pin back out while firing some hot stuff.

I foolishly have had three p32s and sold them thinking I liked a LCP more. The LCP just makes more sense, they were not intended to be fun to shoot.

I understand, some of my wife's yoga pants don't conceal the Shield very well. If there were high capacity or even 10 round magazines for my Shield I would not hesitate to include it in a Bailout/SHTF kit.

That is exactly what I thought, chainfire, the only thing is someone is not showing the rest of the exploded cases.

I am a larger than average, but find the Shield extremely easy to pocket carry. It's marginally larger in a pocket than a j frame. I have done it a lot but I find a Glock 26/27 about the biggest gun to comfortably pocket carry, a slightly modified Glock Sport Combat holster really helps with safety and concealness in a pocket.

I went from a Shield to a XDS and then back to a Shield. Size wise, they are almost the exact same. It seems like the XDS may be longer but shorter. I believe the shield in 9 and 40 both shoot smoother and faster. To be fair I have not shot a XDS 9. The Shield is definetly more bang for the buck at more than $100 savings. I just looked, the XDS is longer but shorter which is no biggie. However, I just realized that the XDS is 2oz heavier. I couldn't believe how how noticeable 2 oz actually was when I transitioned over between the two models.

If I have learned one thing in life and as a police officer, mentally disturbed people are often fascinated by knives, swords and such. I am not saying people who collect them are off but those that are really like cutlery. They generally don't care anything about a firearm or are scared of them.

While true, I feel bad that I brought that up. There is a news report coming out right now that someone in Florida has crashed into a daycare center. One known fatality, I hope it is not intentional.

Thankfully this attacker was not aware of the dozens he could have killed by driving a large SUV through a school playground, sporting event, assembly, or bus stop.

Not only that but adds weight to the holster to keep it in the pocket during a draw.

True, Georgia I have been told does not check serial numbers.

I remember when the Korean mags were $9 each, they sold a lot of them then. Most of the others probably sold when threats of a ban were thought of.

I have harped on it a lot before but posting serial numbers and having a database do nothing to recover stolen items. I first heard the theory as a freshmen in college, I thought it was crazy. I realized it was true when I became an officer, friends would ask me to run a number and I would tell them that I had to keep it if it was stolen. They would say never mind. They wanted to know if it was stolen but didn't want to be out a gun if it was. Like mentioned before, it may very well be someone around you who knows you, let word get out that it was stolen but you did NOT know the serial number, I bet it will appear for sale. Otherwise, let someone know that it was recorded as a stolen serial number and it will disappear in a river or tucked deep into a sock drawer as a throw down gun. If it is in the hands of a gangbanger they wont care if it is stolen, it will eventually be found on a dead thug or during a pat down. If it is in the hands of a gun collector who finds out it was stolen it will be deep in a safe never seeing daylight, stripped for parts and each part sold on gunbroker, or carefully carried back in forth from the range. Very, very few people would be honest enough to come forward to the police if they found their new weapon was previously stolen.

You most likely will find the Shield the worst then, XDS may be your ticket. As much as people dislike them, the Sig 250 is probably the most lefty friendly auto pistol.