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Take a look at the Mueller APT. That's probably the best option under 200.

If it's all at ground level, get some pieces of pipe about the width of the safe, 4-8 pieces, to use as rollers. We moved the wide/tall TSC Cannon model in that way. I think it's about 700lbs. Dad and I did it without straining a bit. Had to go up one step as well. If you take your time and use various simple machines to your advantage, it's not that bad (as long as you aren't going up steps). If you aren't familiar with the tricks of moving large heavy equipment, it would be easier and safer to pay someone.

Looks like an expert sized gun with a barrel weight instead of a long slide. Discontinued in 99 according to the "Book of Knoweledge" HK Pro HK Pro forums may be a better place to ask.

EDIT: Can no longer recommend

A full mag at 25, I'd say 50 is too much. (I know... "I sit down to zero my sights and to make it worse, they were falling off") I'll try and come. Hoping for good weather. I'd like to have something out to 200 yards if possible. I'll be bringing some AR mags I need rid of for cheap if I come.

or the APV. APV APT

You could shoot the Aguila Colibri ammo and have any 22 fairly quiet.

One thing I forgot. If you get one. Get one of these.

I love the MK pistols. I have a standard MK II and a MK III Hunter. I've recently put a MK II VQ kit and MK II hammer bushing in the MK III the trigger is very nice now and the gun will shoot 1 inch groups at 50 feet (probably better).

I don't think I got the PM. I'll probably be able to make it and dad may come along.

ditto I'm unsure if I'll be back from Florida in time but I'd like to come.

Ron Paul is the only true conservative that's currently running. The media and elites are afraid of him. The rest of the candidates are all reading from the same agenda. Notice in the debates that Ron Paul is the only one that doesn't think it's a good idea to take all our liberties away in the name of "security". He's definitely got my vote (again).

I've got more money in lights than I do in guns and I don't exactly have a shortage of guns. I have everything from cheapos to custom Titanium lights. I sell 4sevens lights and feel they are the best value for most people. Dad has carried a Quark 123^2 for over 2 years now and has never had an issue. If you do have a problem, they have great customer service and a 10 year warranty out of Atlanta.

I'll be a little late but I'll definitely be coming. I think I'll bring it all... lol.

I'm up for it but will probably be late. There's no way I can get to the IGA by 10

how late are ya gonna stay? I may get around to it. I've not been shooting much lately. Daniel

Anyone heading out to norris tomorrow? It's been nearly a month since I've been out to shoot.

I wouldn't touch it. Try a DMT Aliner set. Quality diamond hones and a system that will allow you to sharpen consistently.

Well, dad's working tomorro so I don't really have anything to do. Can I bum a ride off someone from knoxville?

Hrm, I might feel the need to come if there's shooting involved. I'll be picking up a brand new hk45c before the week is up. Gotta play with it somewhere. (although norris is a much shorter drive)

well, I'm definitely going. Just picked up hotel reservations.

I'm thinking I may go. I'm not sure that I want to deal with the crowd.

Paladin Powerplay (SOG) pt-540 and a swiss tool spirit+ ratchet. I carry the spirit every day. I'd really suggest a SwissTool Spirit for EDC

I may be able to come. Just depends on what ends up on the to-do list tomorrow

Have you done any testing with the DT loads. I tried a few of my 9mm 115gr DT in water jugs and there was nothing left. The bullet lost about 90% of it's original weight. If the correct bullet is used, pushing the limits may make it perform better, but that's obviously not the case for the DoubleTap loads I have. I'm not impressed. I'm carrying Federal HST 165gr .40 in my P2000SK. Currently the 115gr DoubleTap in my P7 (gotta find something else, I'm not impressed by the performance) Daniel