Jonnin

somehow, we can... my para says made in canada. Somehow crossed over via parausa. dunno how all that works.

sorta. No human on board means no one dies if it crashes, unless it hits something. They tend to be smaller: less fuel, less mass, less destruction if they fail. So, basically, it needs a "safe crash" system where it shuts off and blows out a parachute or something like that, so it lands harmlessly, leaving about the worst case as a drop into traffic on say the interstate (bad, even with a parachute). I would say they are less of a danger than a real airplane, but, probably more prone to failure (small parts more likely to fail in my experience, and less redundancy than big vehicles). No matter what the owner will want good insurance, because people tend to sue even if not harmed. Some yahoo get one landed in their yard and wins 10 billion in a lawsuit because it hit the dog or prize rosebush or something. Heck these days the loud noise might be worth a few tens of millions with the right lawyer. Much of the cost per unit is R&D, even now. It takes a long time or a lot of units to recover that investment. And the R&D goes on, its an important area. As for shooting at them --- the operator would be wise to stay above shotgun range, which is really not that high up. If someone starts in with a rifle, they are going to be in more trouble for launching rounds all over creation than for hitting the plane -- which is unlikely when you start talking a 15 foot object 500 yards up moving at 30+ MPH.

Not exactly. Before that, he did stuff for the republicans. He was patrolling the boarder, trying to keep the illegals out -- not much of a democrat there. It sounds like he was unstable, a ticking bomb that finally went off, just like so many other nuts that go on a shooting spree. I see a picture of what appears to be a .22LR rifle --- supposedly an assault rifle (look at the magazine). Is that what he supposedly used? This story makes no sense, really -- no one has done any legwork on this story so the couple of pieces on it have strange gaps and confusing, conflicting data.

Mostly used to take a look at something dangerous. A local PD? Should not need it. But should a state have a couple? Possibly... for their swat teams, anti-terror teams, or the like? 2-3 per state, maybe a couple more in gigantic states, would make some sense. Could pay for themselves if they make them able to read the speed off vehicles (they can already see the plates...) and that would be an annoying turn of events indeed.

I will give her all her rights -- I agree she has the same ones I do. But she has NO entitlements. She has confused "rights" with something else. She has the right to due process, and the right to spend her life in jail or, if lucky, be deported. Them are her rights.

this is promising: "We've got to take our role back as parents. We got to put our foot down and discipline our kids." but then Jonhson also says there needs to be more programs in the community for kids and parents means zero real progress after all. Always asking for government to do what the parents will not. Normal, nonviolent kids did not get that way from some government funded program.

do you have the dimensions of it? Is it just a simple straight pin, maybe with an indent, but nothing fancy?

well it tells you what it would do right there. 6 moa is close enough to 6 inch diameter circle at 600 yards. So it would all but obscure a headshot, but allow for center of mass aiming at a full on man sized shape. Usable, absolutely. Sniper's choice? Probably not. Rapid aim at that range, probably better than a scope. Depends on what you want.

He is dead on IMHO. Except that if you are target shooting for fun, much past 200, most dot type optics cover the entire target with the dot. Take a standard 3 inch circle rifle target, put it at 500 yards, fire up your red dot, and it will *cover* the entire target or nearly so. Fire up your 20x whatever power scope, and you can see the red dot in the center of the target and at least attempt to aim at it and hit it.... this is the main failure of red dot type optics. It is the only thing the dots do not do well, and its the nature of the beast... if you can see the dot, and quickly acquire it for usage, it has to be big enough for that, and if its big enough for that, it will cover X amount of space at Y distance.... any other application, the dots are a great choice.

If he wants to scare people, he needs to invest in some blanks. If he wants to shoot robbers, he needs to aim at them. This in-between crap just causes problems.

mildots, on the cheap end, tend to be set for a single power and not be quite right at other powers. However they are pretty easy to use: if you can see a known object (a human, a car, your 6 inch target, whatever) you can "measure" the object in mil dots in the scope to guesstimate how far the object is. Then you can know a few points (50, 100, 200, 500 yards for example) of adjustment by memory. So you measure the human sized cardboard cutout target, its 2 mildots high, so its at say 200 yards, you use the 200 yard adjustement that you know, and its all good. personally, I have trouble seeing the dots, and if I focuse to see them, its harder to aim. IE I have trouble getting my eyes to see all the stuff I need to work one. I do not care for it and do just about as well with just ye olde crosshairs. You can get a lot of scope for $300. I would forget the brands and focus on getting a good warranty instead. Not sure about the drop marks; I thought they were sort of generic and you just learned them for your gun, caliber, and ammo combination. A 223 at the ranges you list is going to be pretty good if you just sighted it in at 50 or 75 yards, and good enough to hunt or do self defense with no adjustment. Only if precision shooting would you really need to adjust it -- and even then, on ours its only 1 mil dot difference across those ranges (2 total, that is, +- 1 dot).

that is a neat looking piece of wood on it.

You can put the guns in wall mart plastic storage boxes with a little bit of damp-rid or whatever other water pulling chemistry. Spray and wipe the guns with rem oil before storage. The rest of it can be wood, or metal, or whatever you can work with on the cheap. you do not need to hide it to the point of invisible. Get it hidden enough that it is not easy to see and let it go at that. It also sounds complicated, with the pull out stuff.

When I took it every person had a gun. And we did not touch it in the classroom, it was for the shooting test afterwards. Kinda like kindergarten.... cannot leave the room for 10 seconds without something dumb happening.

did they pass the course?

Lol, sometimes. I am 100% sure I can lay out the entire history of mine: 1908-9: built in germany and test fired 1910: shipped to argentina and put in a warehouse 1950: someone found the warehouse and was like "so what we gonna do with these heavy old things" 1965 or so: roughly stacked, scarring the wood. Sold to Dad who wanted to make a deer rifle -- but did not after seeing its condition. 2009 100 years later, it gets shot for the first time since it was packed in what seemed to be 10 pounds of cosmo. Probably for the first time since it was made. Not exactly the most historic piece in the world! I don't think the minor variation in bullet diameter and weight matter much in the family. 30-06 or 303 brit or 8mm mauser or even 308, they are all pretty similar and all excellent cartridges chambered in a number of great pieces. I hope you find the israeli you seek!

Ive shot the lcp, p3at, and others. The sig p238, while relatively expensive, just has less recoil than the other 380s. I would say the sig is roughly 75-85% of the LCP. I think the LCP and Khar are pretty close, but its been an age since I tried the Khar and that was just a few shots, so it is not clear in my head. It is also IMHO more shootable due to the short trigger pull, but that is subjective.

Do we still fingerprint (#2) ?

I have tried out any number of them but only one stayed with me, my 1909 mauser. I am very, very tempted by an enfield, and mildly tempted by the price of a mosin, but at the end of the day I only get to shoot long range a few times a year, and for those, I take the 1909, and would not have the time to really enjoy the others. So I just stick to the one that I have the time to enjoy and talk myself out of buying more stuff that would just take up space. If I could shoot every day, I would be one of those guys with a room full of old guns (and new ones too).

there are almost no places to go here apart from private land or the free prentice cooper where people shoot at you as you change your targets. Its not that we are unfriendly, but a deeply buried post, off topic, seeking a fairly hard to find thing (someone with a private range a short drive from chatt) on short notice had a fairly low chance of success. Your best bet would have been a member of the chatt shooting club, but the odds of someone seeing your post who is also a member there... small enough.

auto adjusting red dots are designed for average eyes.... they are too bright by default for me. I will take my 10 brightness settings and slightly bigger package any day. A switch control costs no more than a sensor.

I cannot imagine a shootout lasting more than 3 mags without either ME or the bad guys being beyond reloading. ( Maybe 4-5 for a low cap pistol). 3 typical rifle mags is almost 100 rounds -- if you missed 75% and double tapped the rest, you still are expecting to come out unhurt after killing over 10 enemy. Typical 15 round pistols... thats nearly 50 shots and accounts for 5 enemy at close range under those same miss/tap ratios. Not sure what you guys are planning on doing, but I fully intend to run away from anything that would need 10 mags to deal with.

tube red dots can be improved with extra tube over the ends of it. Some red dots even have this --- shades both sides of the tube from the sun which helps a ton with sunlight.

take a look at ultradot's products if you want a small, precise dot -- their dot is smaller than most. Adding to it... red dots replace iron sights and are generally short range. Past 100 -200 yards, you may want a scope. Lots of folks put both a scope and a dot on a tactical rifle. Additionally, red dots are a great help to people with a variety of vision problems. red dot is optimal for targt pistol and defense. Not recommended in SHTF long tem, due to eventual lack of battery. For general rioting and so on, its great for that too. Poor for ultra long range target practice or any real rifle target practice (unless its a 22 at 50-100 or less yards?!). Scope is poor up close, and odd on a pistol though people do it. Slower for self defense and can lead to looking with 1 eye, dangerous in combat. Really, scopes are for long range shooting or precise rifle shooting -- target stuff or sniper type combat.

Life happens. We have about 5 people in a little group --- 3 from my work, 2 who know us, and once in a blue moon one or 2 others who normally cannot make it manage as well. Yet even with all those, a regular time and place, and all, about once a month no more than 2 of us make it. At least 5 times a year no one goes (which means it would be just me, and I do not go alone very often). People get busy, or things come up, and some folks are embarrassed to admit they cannot afford a lot of ammo, etc. It works to just be the go-to guy... they know you are going, and when, and where. If they want to go, they will come to you -- even if its just once or twice a year. If not, don't worry about it. One of my best friends has been wanting to go for 6 months now, but he has kids too young for it and they keep him hopping, and a wife and a life as well, it just never seems to happen. One day he will find the time again.