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Understand, but when searching, never point your weapon at something or someone you don’t intend to shoot. That’s exactly the problem with a WML for most unless you ‘bounce’ the light.

Yes, but handheld should be primary light.

In general fist fights that turn into shootings are not a good thing. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, deadly force isn't acceptable. Additionally, even with stand your ground law in TN, avoidance can be deemed the more reasonable thing to do and put the shooter in an unfavorable position for self defense. Will be an interesting story to follow.

shotgun and 00 buck is hard to beat...pretty definitive

If you are in the surrounding Knoxville area, I will be holding the Enhanced Handgun Carry class at Pellissippi State, Hardin Valley, Saturday, Nov 13. Starts 8 AM. Call 865-539-7167 for details. This is the permit that gives you the best protection and broadest carry privileges in TN plus the most state reciprocity.

John Harris was on 98.7 News Talk with Bob Yarbrough discussing the Permitless Carry law and the legal traps and confusion it has caused for LEO as well as civilians. Good informative show for an hour.

So papa you are certainly privileged to your stance. The problem is, if caught with a handgun in a non-permissive spot, it may financially ruin you to prove your point, if not jail time and loss of gun rights. Simply being in a school zone, even in TN is a federal offense without a permit.

BillyB, if you are now a TN resident, you have 6 mos to get a TN permit. Your FL permit won’t be valid, at least that is my understanding. Otherwise all other points seem correct. Permit has no bearing on long guns.

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If you can't check your ego....then one should reconsider carrying a gun. Your explanation simply shows a pattern of escalation on both sides. Notwithstanding carrying a gun without one in the chamber. Bad technique at critical times. Another story however.

For a simple pocket gun, the original LCP is hard to beat. Essentially dehorned with reasonable rounds makes it lighter. All of these high round capacity guns make my pants sag

only if one wants to take a chance on being a permanent guest....

No matter the type and caliber, except 'bird shot', expect it to go from one end of the house and out the other.

IF I could only have one handgun, it would be the M&P 45. Reliable, accurate, and very little tlc needed. Dependable.

SCCY has double strike capability....did they go off on 2nd try, or in another firearm?

According to the USCCA reciprocity map.....dude is up Schitt Creek. Possession of unloaded and cased weapon, rifle or handgun, may be allowed based on Hotel policy. Same for having in vehicle for a non-resident and abscense of FOID card.

Just a well-heeled visitor to a war zone

IMO, the close distance, immediate use of your gun, sights or red dot probably won’t even be noticed or used, let alone even notice the rare occasion of fogging. As I said, try taping yours up and try it out….I bet you will be surprised.

In bright, in your face sun, some shooters put blue painters tape over the lens. I have tried it…one can still see the target with other eye and effectively shoot the dot. I’m betting you can do the same thing with a fogged glass.

Most all popular calibers have similar penetration. May want to look up 'The Firearm Blog", .22 vs. 223 Home Defense Drywall Penetration

Castle doctrine does apply to your vehicle, but the passenger compartment has to be breached…not that you simply felt threatened. One can always drive off…avoiding the situation is paramount.

Going to need to sip ;the M&P kool-aid sometime....

Yes have been there several times. Never bad idea to consult your attorney. Very few know much about firearms law let alone self-defense law. Generally not taught in law school.

The carry class has had at least 3 significant changes through the years; likely since you took the class. You are correct in that the laws change frequently and it is one's responsibility to keep up with those changes. Additionally, the 'legal' aspects of carry are dictated by the state and the Power Point presentation put out by the state for all instructors is to be followed explicitly. The instructor my ad lib to a small degree, but the info is Homeland Security/Dept of Safety advice and rules dictated by statute. And again you are correct, it is a never ending process of learning.

However, the above stipulations will keep one from carrying a handgun under the new permitless carry law. One has to be able to meet all qualifications/disqualifications of the ECP requirements.