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Evaporate and condense, doesn't make a whole lot of water. It does work however. I guess it all depends on what you think you need to do. If I were Bugging in or in at a Safe House, I would definitely set up the sand filter system, if for nothing else than as a back up to a well or a public water line. If I were really out in the woods and living off the grid, then it might be my main purification system.

I actually plan on moving my family in a SHTF situation, but only a short distance and only because I have a butt load of family in that area for support. Otherwise I would stay put like you are planning on doing, CS_1999.

1. A natural disaster - Likely 2. An attack from outside our Borders - Likely 3. Plaque or Epidemic of some type - Likely 3. Economic collapse followed by civil unrest - Possible 4. Government overthrow - Not likely I think there is always a high probability that there will be some weather related natural disaster or maybe an earthquake on a localized level. I also think that at some point we will be attacked again, either by a country or a terrorist group with a nuclear device. I really fear an EMP attack, as I think we are totally unprepared for such an event. I think at some point we will also see some sort of an epidemic, either natural or man made. This could even be in the form of a terrorist attack. Economically, while I don't think it's likely I do think it could possibly happen, but I think we'd have some warning of impending doom and we would have a chance to prepare for it. I really don't buy into the Government over throw thing. I think that's pretty much Tin Foil Hat time. Alcohol would be one of those great items to put back. If I had the money, I would put several cases of cheap stuff back. It can be used for medical situations, as a fuel, to drink and to trade. IMO, it would be worth more than gold or silver. Other items that should be put back are gunpowder, lead, paper, various medicines such as antibiotics and pain killers, bows and arrows, bullets, spices, hand tools, seeds... the list could be endless!

The March/April issue of The Backwoodsman had an excellent article on a Sand Filter System for use at a cabin. You all might want to pick up an issue and check it out. Simple and cheap to make!

There are some things you can do to improve the sheaths on these things. Here is one of the better modification tutorials I've seen. http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2011/06/guest-post-mora-511-knife-and-sheath.html

I handled one a year or so ago. I didn't shoot it. It's definitely not up to Colt standards for fit and finish as stated. For example, I have a Colt Agent and when you cock it and hold the hammer back and then pull the trigger, there is absolutely no play in the cylinder. The lock up is outstanding! There was quite a bit of play in the Armscor version that I handled when I tried this. You could shake it and hear it raddle. Of course, the one I was handling was also something like $250. I would be interested in hearing some range reports.

Dolomite, you DO NEED ONE!!! LOL! I love my Saiga! Got to agree with the statement about AKs. Toughest rifles out there for the money. Decently accurate, go bang every time, require little maintance, simple to operate and to learn to shoot (just ask all the Gorilla fighters since the 1960's. Ammo is plentiful and cheap. What's not to love! The two bad things about the lever action .357s are the price for the rifle and finding more than 1 at one store, otherwise, I think it's a perfect combination. When you find them, they are very expensive. I haven't seen one for less than $600 and I've never seen any store that actually had more than one in stock. It's just not a rifle you see a lot of. If you really want .357, other options are the little Ruger bolt action ( http://www.ruger.com...357/models.html but they aren't cheap either and probably had to find too) or as stated earlier, the H&R Handi-rifle (again hard to find). I love the idea, especially when you pair it with a .22LR lever gun, but if you are wanting to pick them all up at one place at the same time, I think you're going to have trouble with that.

Where you batoning the blade or something when you did that?

bentonbjones, do you know what model you have?

Awesome bird! She looks excited!!! I was up at Big South Fork thursday through today and happened to see two toms. The one late yesterday was huge!

Great job! Moras are great knives, especially for the money!!! One thing I see others do with their Moras is square the spine up for ease of use with a fire steel. You might want to consider doing that with yours. Maybe just an inch or two in front of the gimping.

Got to second Nama's in Knoxville. It's a bit expensive though. At work we go to Kampai a lot for Sushi. It's half the cost of Nama's, but still real good! For general Japanese food, nothing beat Wasabi's with Little Tokyo running a very close second!!! I love Japanese!!!

Just got back from camping up at Bandy Creek Campground in the Big South Fork about an hour ago. Took the Clash, the Opinel No. 9, my Helle Odel and a CS Trail Hawk. I also had a axe. Processed the larger pieces of wood with the ax and the smaller ones with the Trail Hawk. It was excellent for that task. Very light and handy and didn't wear me out. I also used it to drive stakes with the pole. Took a little more patience, but again it worked like a charm. I think it's an excellent camp tool. I loaned out the knives to my girls and later on to my son (he brought an old Gerber Gater that I had. He has admired that knife since he saw it, so I gave it to him a month or so ago. I hate it. It has serrations and they are next to useless, as he found out), and we sat down and whittled out wiener sticks and later on marshmellow sticks for the fire. My three knives worked fantastic. I've used the Helle before and it's my general purpose woods knife, sharp as heck, light and handy with a 3.5" fixed blade. Honestly, it's the best knife I own. I want a Helle Viking to go with it. It's a bit bigger. I hadn't used the Opinel and the Clash before and wanted to see how they did. Both were excellent and made short work out of whittling down the cookers. Each limb started out as big as my thumb and we took each down to about a 1/4" in diameter. As I said, the Gater has serrations and you can't whittle with it, so I soon gave my Clash up to my son so he could use it. My oldest took over the Opinel and carried it around in her pocket the whole time. I'll probably eventually give that one to her, after of couse, I find another one. I had to sharpen it when I bought it, but it was razor sharp in no time flat and stayed that way, the whole time . It's an excellent knife to be so simple in design and an excellent $9 spent at SMKW!!! The Clash was used on a variety of chores such as chopping food, opening packages, cutting cardboard and rope. Seems as sharp now as it was when I picked it up last week. Very handy knife when clipped to the right front pocket or to my suspenders. I'm very happy with this little knife!!! It will definitely be in my rotation for EDC knife with my Svord Peasant.

Nice! Doesn't the ammo for those cost and arm and a leg?

I feel your pain!

Just another reason NOT to visit New York City, as if I needed another.

If you get to Knoxville, go on over to Smoky Mountain Knife Works in Sevierville. They carry a HUGE SELECTION of both Victorinox and Wenger. You can also check them out online, by going to www.smkw.com and selecting BRAND in the upper left corner of your screen. Do you know what model you want? My personal favorite is the Farmer. http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/products/Victorinox%26reg%3B/Victorinox%C2%AE+Farmer%26%23153%3B+-+Silver+Alox/V53964.html

I did hear that when the first officer rolled up, he noted that the shooter's shirt was wet and covered with grass on the back and that he had grass in his hair, as if he had been rolling on the ground in a fight. Still, the shooter should have followed the directions of the E911 Operator. This really smells IMO. The Shooter pushed it way, way further than it needed to go and a kid ended up dead. Obviously, none here knows the facts, just all the grandstanding crap being thrown out there by the news media. But I'd be real surprised if this guy isn't charged with something.

Very nice looking Bushie!!! Congrats!!!

There is a lot of food for thought here. If I were going with a lever gun for my main rifle, why not go for a lever gun for my .22 as well? It would be great for training as well as cheap! I think a Henry would make a great second rifle as would a Marlin 39A.

Metals that I think might be a commodity are copper, lead, iron, and silver.

Option No. 1: Combat Glock 17 M-4 2000 rounds of .223 hp 2000 rds 9mm whatever flavor they prefer. Option No. 2: Putting Meat in the Belly S&W 686 6" Barrel .357mag Savage 10 Scout in .308 (with both rifle sites and a good 3-9X scope Bolt action .22 Single Shot Rifle 2000 of of the rounds your rifle likes the best 2000 rounds of 158 SJHP 20000 rounds of whatever .22LR that your rifle is the most accurate with (Notice I slipped a extra rifle in on you here) Option No. 3: The World Ain't Never Coming Back Bolt Action Single Shot .22LR Black Powder Flintlock Rifle in .58 caliber Black Powder Pistol in same caliber as above Lots of FFFG and FFFFG black powder Bullet mold for making .58 caliber balls. 100 lbs of lead for making said balls Recipe for making Black Powder 20000 rounds of .22LR of whatever your rifle shoots the best in. Book on bow making Tools needed to make bows and arrows Personally, I'd have every option covered. I don't think any one or two or three guns is going to cover it. Plus, I'd want some non firearms weapons on hand as well.

Thanks for the link Prag! That really helps. Now I need to figure out how much food for a family of 5.

Great looking rifle! He did and excellent job with the camo. The two Mini-14's I had, wouldn't group after 3 to 5 rounds, While they have a nice clean lines, which I really like, I won't be going down that line again.

Ok. I wasn't that impressed. The Glock Shovel is much lighter and does all the same tasks but pull nails as far as I can tell. The saw is MUCH more efficant.