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Extractors seem to grab the CCI stuff a little better than others...that is why they work so well. I have no problems with the Federal Wal-Mart bulk packs. Have fired tens of thousands of them over the years...they do well for the price. Hunting always ends up being Mini-Mag HP however...no FTF proplems with them...ever!

Yup...when the price was $9.97 the guy at the sporting goods counter acctually called me up to tell me that he was going to raise the price to $12 sometime during his shift and will wait for me to show up. I am glad that the insurance/legal thing only applies to centerfire ammo. 30 minutes later I cleaned them out...35,200 rounds.

Maybe some of the FFL folks can chime in on a good estimate if you went through them rather than direct via carrier for a pistol. If they charge $25 for the transfer + Shipping cost...I am pretty sure that 9 / 10 it would still be cheaper than doing it yourself.

I shipped a Marlin 39A to Marlin via US Postal Service for $14 last Thursday. If you are shipping to another person in the state...this is the only way $$$wise I would do it. With handguns it might be cheaper to take to local FFL as they can use cheaper methods of shipping.

Walther and Ruger are not in cahoots.

That is good to know...thanks for the info!

That simply isn't a true statement...they just aren't what you need. People too easily forget that they are modeled after 2 of the best US military rifles ever made...have to laugh sometimes when people climb all over each other to get a field grade M-1 Carbine at a gun show or pine for a M14...and 5 minutes later stare at a Ranch Rifle like poo on a shoe.

Please understand that "reloaded" ammo like this simply means that the brass has been once fired? It is manufactured/assembled on the same equipment as virgin brass. Those worries are simply unfounded as the only difference is price, and that is due to the recycling savings of the reused brass. On other words...they don't have some old man in a basement cranking them out with a single stage press.

Doesn't matter how they look....which one feels better? I personally think that the thin gripped snubby Smiths are the ugliest firearms ever made. Don't get me wrong as I own 2 of them and trust them with my life...they just are not very majestic. On those snubbie S&Ws for me there is only one choice (I almost hate to admit...being a blue and wood guy). ...Rubber

I'd jump on that deal like a fat boy eating a cupcake!

Concealed Carry Permit. Sorry...there are so many acronyms for basically the same thing I get them confused. HCP CC CCL CP

This is a very, very important subject to me. Since I have a very bad taste in my mouth towards anything lawyer related I am curious how many people here with their CCL have actually done the leg work to retain a lawyer in the case of an actual self defense situation. I know that they all aren't bad, but if someone here (especially in the Chattanooga area) has done the leg work it would be nice to actually contact one of these lawyer offices so that I can actually do what I am supposed to do...have a # to call if I ever have to shoot someone in a self defense situation...heaven forbid. I saw one other thread when searching this forum CLICK HERE but it really dances around the topic. The same, sadly enough, is the situation of many other gun forums...there is a lack of the "good guy" lawyers that advertize/solicit themselves for these services. Not sure if NRAILA.com has something as that site is information overload. I figure I would ask because I am betting that 90% of you CCL holders are in the same boat...have the plastic, but really don't have a legal plan in case they have to follow through. I am thinking that the adage "ounce of prevention = a pound of cure." I see this TN Gun Forum as a great place to discuss as many other forums are on a national level and the pastures are much different elsewhere. So let's hear it...how many of you have followed through with having a Laywer # alongside your CCL? If you do...you can really add value to all of our lives by sharing who/how you went about obtaining.

For one...they are ugly. But this is in the eye of the beholder Second...they are very utilitarian. You will feel proud handing down your Marlin 39A, Ruger Single Six, or Remington 700bdl to your grandchildren. A Glock has no more nostalgia than giving them a pipe wrench. Third...they don't fit everyone's hand very well. You can learn to shoot them like a pro, but for many this won't come natural. Lastly...some people can't get over the lack of a digital (on/off) safety or the fact that you have to pull the trigger to take it apart. It doesn't have to be that way because many of the European product that Glock sells do have an actual on/off safety...however when you think about it it really isn't any different than a double action revolver.

Here is what Glock really has going for them. They have the KISS (Keep It Simple...Stupid) formula down pat. This has been a mantra for engineers for eons. They started with a blank piece of paper with the following ambitions. ...Make the user interface as simple as possible ...Make the gun as simple and reliable as possible They did this better than any gun manufacturer of the past 50 years and are successful today because of this. They aren't heirlooms....they aren't works of art (as they followed function over form)...they aren't collectors items (unless you have a long slide model). They are made to be fighting pistols...that is it. They do this job very well.

Yeah...it is hard to beat a Glock, M&P, or H&K. I think another reason (they keep popping in my head...great question by the way!) is that the semi auto market is so much more competitive....When I think mainstream revolvers I think of only 3 people Ruger, S&W, and Taurus. There are no fewer than 10 quality semi-auto manufacturers. The market for pistols is swaying away from hunting and competition and more towards the crowded personal defense market....lot of money to be made and there are many companies fighting for your semi-auto business.

You won't see a plastic revolver (I keed...I keed). metal prices are high, final fitting to ensure the timing is proper takes money also. Most quality revolvers are around 400-600 and that is the same that I see for the bottom feeders. You can find some for less (Charter) or the sky is the limit (Bowen custom or Freedom arms). I am 30 and haven't met a single person at the Chattanooga Rifle club who didn't have a healthy respect for revolvers. They have evolved to do things that the Semi-auto's can't...hunting, long distance shooting, silhouette competitions, personal security, and so on. From what I see in the younger generation...they shoot much less and have less knowledge about what some of the things pistols can't do and what revolvers can. Another thing is that those old whipper snappers are more willing to pay more money for a nice revolver...Simple supply and demand also applies to a certain extent. Read the reviews from owners on the S&W Sigs that are selling for $200 vs. the $400 J frames...that is what justifies the $200 premium. As far as improving on a design...there isn't really any true innovation that has occurred (save polymers) in the past 50 years. Replace Revolver with 1911 an you can ask the same question and get the same answer.

Yeah...I saw that they have changed it some. Because of spare parts availability I would still by all means suggest that someone pick up the previous generation for $1500 less. They did make it look considerably more aggressive!

Don't listen to the people that discard the Ninja 250 as a toy...these are the same people who argure that a 'busa is better than some other bike because it .2 seconds faster in the quarter mile. They are selling like hotcakes because they get 75mpg and will still send a average person 0-60 in 5.5 or so seconds. ---BUY USED--- They have been selling the same bike for 20 years with little change and there are tons of them on the market. Craigslist is a great place to look.

Simply rugged pancake with the "inside out option" Very reasonably priced and I have not herd of a single person who has one who doesn't think it is the best holster that they own. CLICK HERE

Thanks guys! Nice to see so many local folks in one place. ...Any of you other Chattanoogans shoot at the CRC? Of course I am the guy always plinking with the revolvers and lever guns.

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IMHO...they are the most handsome pistols on the market. Thanks for sharing!

1st...there is not enough power to cycle the action. Either get a reduced power spring or find a different combination. And yes...0.8 grains of powder is big considering you will be working with under 4 grains to begin with...enough to cause problems if you have the wrong powder and you are working near max loads. 2nd...case capacity of the 9mm is very small so it is quite sensitive to overcharging and OAL. With this is mind I find it always wise to use a powder that is not "peaky" with respect to pressure, and one that will not allow you to accidentally double charge. Example...Use Unique rather than Titewad, Bullseye, or any number of extremely fast powders. 3rd...Lee sells a 4th "Factory" crimp die. This is a GREAT product as it will prevent buckling/bell when crimping and it applies a very, very nice taper crimp. About $8 at midwayusa.com --------------------------------- You are on the right track...the most important thing is that you are asking questions! Keep em coming.

If you are in the Chattanooga area much I may be able to help. Have a dedicated reloading room with a single stage and a progressive press. It really is much simpler than you think, but there are some VERY important protocols that you need to follow to avoid double charging and formulating a "proper" load. Drop me a PM or email and we can see if our schedules line up. However...About the only thing I don't reload is .45. Also...unless you have a custom barrel that doesn't have the funky glocky octagonal rifling...I advise against lead or electro-plated bullets in any Glock pistol.