Oh Shoot

[quote name='swim615' timestamp='1355090089' post='857383'] Even though its not a tangible number, what would be a reasonable amount to have.... [/quote] You'll get all kinds of answers there. I keep 5,000 rounds or more as shooting stock. The "stash" is much larger. - OS

[quote name='Clod Stomper' timestamp='1355094994' post='857425'] If the barrel is 16" AND the overall length is 26", that's legal. If it were me, though, I'd put it in a folding stock, like the Butler Creek. [url="http://www.cabelas.com/10-22-accessories-butler-creek-folding-stock-ruger-10-22-1.shtml"]http://www.cabelas.c...r-10-22-1.shtml[/url] Will [/quote] 18.5" carbine to pistol grip part of rifle stock is about 28", so a 16" in a Charger stock is gonna be iffy, seems. 16" barrel in a Butler Creek would be about 25" or less, folded, so yeah, if space saving is the object here, it's a better option, especially since you can shoot it with the butt stock too. - OS

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1355090977' post='857397'] Thanks man ... It's a bloody mess right now... Don't think anyone would want to see it. [/quote] Sure we would, kids are fascinated by gore. - OS

[quote name='spikehunter' timestamp='1355073844' post='857273'] Ok im sure some of you can interpret this law better than I can. Would it be legal to take a standard 10/22 reciever with an 16" rifle barrel and replace the stock with a charger stock? [/quote] You want a "pistol" with a 16" barrel? What exactly are you wanting to make here? - OS

Yep, spot on. Pogo was right: [img]http://www.cabot.net/buttons/WeHaveMet.gif[/img] - OS

[quote name='c.a.willard' timestamp='1355026906' post='857105'] I think that there is a need to seriously punish this guy. Yes he has suffered a terrible loss, however a ND killing someone fits the definition of criminally negligent homicide fairly well.[/quote] If one believes at all in the rehabilitation part of imprisonment, what would that possibly achieve? Accidentally killing his own son would seem to be the most severe lesson he could possibly be taught. - OS

[quote name='JohnC' timestamp='1354972075' post='856844'] ....In this case, id just get him something really cheap, make him promise to keep it, and [b]register it[/b] in his name[/quote] You probably just didn't phrase that precisely, but in case, to get a "registration" in someone else's name, you'd both have to go to an FFL and transfer the gun from you to him. Which in the case of a handgun, you can only do in the state of the buyer/receiver. - OS

[quote name='Lumber_Jack' timestamp='1354997782' post='856943'] ....In all reality. You can carry AFTER having a beer, just not WHILE having a beer in a restaurant. but that's a personal choice. [/quote] [quote name='Pain103' timestamp='1354999387' post='856953'] That's incorrect. TCA 39-17-1321 (a) covers possession of handgun under the influence. 39-17-1321b subsection applies to drinking while in an establishment while armed. You can't be in possession of the handgun while under the influence. There is no per se influence level for this statute like DUI has a per se level of .08 BAC. I don't even risk it. If I'm going to have a drink the gun stays at home. [/quote] Of course, you're both correct. According to TCA, the only time you are immediately irrefutably guilty re mixing booze and carry is in a public establishment and you have even one sip of one alcoholic drink. But yes, possession under the influence is certainly just another gray area in TCA -- if push came to shove, you might get off with a BAC under .08 argued as a reasonable standard, or you might not. Certainly there's nothing in the carry laws to support either guess. There's also no requirement for a BAC to even be taken. To further complicate things, IF you violate the drinking in a public establishment, AND are determined to be under the influence, then besides other sentencing you lose your HCP for three years (even though you'd lose it for the duration of the sentence of the Class A misdemeanor anyway -- another unspecified part of the statute is whether the 3 years suspension is in addition to the Class A 'meanor suspension). So all in all, I'd feel rather nervous myself if my breath even smelled of drinking near beer, and won't even do that and carry (or drive). Who needs the possible hassle even if not convicted, eh? - OS

[quote name='DaveS' timestamp='1354834219' post='856077'] Tomorrow is the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. I only bring this up as I would like to honor my uncle "Thomas Lowery" who served on the submarine USS Sunfish during WWII and passed away last summer. My uncle Tommy whom raised me, was aboard the Sunfish that fateful day. When the Japanese attacked, the Sunfish (whom was entering the harbor) submerged in the shallow water and turned seaward in search of the Japanese fleet. The Sunfish engaged the Jap fleet and when running out of torpedoes, surfaced and engaged the enemy with a 50 cal machine gun and what my uncle called a 3" inch deck gun.[/quote] [quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1354910892' post='856599'] Wow...I know of the Sunfish (SS-281)...[/quote] Dave, not meaning to denigrate your unc or anything, but something's out of whack there. The Sunfish wasn't built/launched from California until May of 1942, commissioned in July, and arrived at Pearl in Nov. of '42. Maybe he was on a different sub at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack and sort of blended the stories or something. - OS

[quote name='peejman' timestamp='1354912510' post='856611'] Correct. 21 to buy one from an FFL, 18 to own one. [b]TN laws are so stupid...[/b] [/quote] You can own handgun at any age in TN. 18 year old can buy one in private sale. Can't sell to minor, but can give or loan long gun or handgun to a minor. You prefer that TN made these laws to conform with the federal one? - OS

[quote name='Trekbike' timestamp='1354820108' post='855961'] At around 3:12 Costas stated, "roughly 40% of the guns purchased in this country don't require a background check". Is he referring to private sales or what? Can anyone shed any light on if this is a true statement? [/quote] No, but certainly makes sense as far as [u]re[/u]sold guns. Hell, I'd be surprised if it wasn't 75% or more. But obviously, no accurate stats [i]can[/i] exist for private sales. I still think we'll see the end to all private sales ere long, and maybe before BHO leaves office. - OS

Pretty funny if you've watched any of Fat Lynn's CS vids: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWUQXx7u9w&feature=youtu.be[/media] - OS

[quote name='graycrait' timestamp='1354854876' post='856281'] He is eccentric..... I may have traded 700.00 worth of Remington's for 300.00 worth of 10/22s. ...[/quote] Yeah, [i]he[/i] sounds pretty eccentric, all right. But [i]you[/i] don't of course. - OS

[quote name='sventvkg' timestamp='1354844796' post='856177'] This INFURIATES ME. What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED in the 2nd amendment don't these Govt. gun grabbers not understand. I'm suck of it. Beyond sick of it...that form you have to fill out when getting your handgun permit in this state is nothing short of an abomination of the very fundamentals of the 2nd amendment and what our founders outlined as our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS that can't be infringed by Govt. My definition of what we live under is Tyranny.[/quote] [quote name='sventvkg' timestamp='1354844851' post='856180'] He had NO SUCH RIGHT. He had rule of and unconstitutional law ruled constitutional by a fraud. PERIOD.[/quote] Go get 'em, Spartacus! Btw, I assume you put your money where your mouth is -- NRA and TFA member, for example? - OS

[quote name='Hershmeister' timestamp='1354829559' post='856039'] I think you would both be better off having him either borrow from a friend in MS, or you just make him a personal loan of cash and he goes out on his own to buy something leaving you out of the equation.[/quote] Federal law is clear -- you worry too much, and Missouri is MO. - OS

[quote name='graycrait' timestamp='1354842933' post='856156'] I picked up a pair of Sig 239s, a 10/22 with a 16.5" threaded barrel and two bottles of wine in a trade. ...[/quote] A box of cigars and you'd have won the ATF trifecta. - OS

Maybe one of them will sing, if he can avoid um ... "committing suicide". - OS

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1354821778' post='855976'] He's stationed in Missouri which I think is pretty "gun friendly" with its laws. [/quote] Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it there. Just remind him you're loaning it to him so he can plink once in a while (lawful sporting purposes). - OS

[quote name='Hershmeister' timestamp='1354819379' post='855953'] I would think where he is residing would also play an important fact in this. Is he in TN? [/quote] Doesn't matter with a loan as far as federal law. But yeah, some states may have state laws that would deny this, but dunno if say FOID in IL or handgun purchase permit in NC, etc require that for loans too. Or the places where handgun possession without a permit is denied period, like NYC, Chicago, DC. Probably in some of those places, the law wouldn't see "ownership" and "possession" as different, dunno. - OS

Well, one thing in a LEO's stead: until he runs your DL, he has no way to be sure your permit is even valid. You could have had it nuked, maybe even be a fugitive from justice or something. Yeah, any number of scenarios are very rare possibilities, but two seconds to fire a round is a pretty thin line during one of the most dangerous activities a cop will do in the first place. - OS

Yes, federal law specifically allows loan of a firearm. With no time limit specified for the loan. Link above doesn't work for me, but 18USC 922 is here: [url="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922"]http://www.law.corne...ode/text/18/922[/url] Search page for "loan", mentioned three times I think. Dunno about some of the more restrictive states' laws though. - OS

[quote name='RevScottie' timestamp='1354809934' post='855871'] Does anyone know of a TN statute that supports this? I always thought the same as TMF but multiple LEOs have told me it is not a crime. [/quote] Only things I could find initially is: - death threat could be aggravated stalking, but a one time occurrence wouldn't cut it [i]39-17-315[/i] - circumstances of threatening school employee [i]39-13-114 [/i] there may of course be others, dunno - OS

[quote name='Spots' timestamp='1354770238' post='855606'] Sounds like he was professinal. That said,[b] he has no reason, nor right[/b] to disarm anyone who is in legal possession of a handgun with an HCP. [/quote] TN law gives him the right, and the reason is his call. - OS

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1354728851' post='855279'] ... [img]http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac195/mikegideon1/IMG_0829a.jpg[/img] [/quote] So that's the same Uberti "Cattleman El Patron", in .45 Colt, right? Looks sweet for sure. - OS

I'll do it for two years for minimum wage plus $100,000 per win, what could be more fair? I figure I can make 400K just letting them play sandlot football, could probably get them to 7 and 4 with a bit of actual strategy as long as it doesn't rise to current confusing levels. Or hire Ken Sparks to get them to 8 and 3 by his second year. - OS