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  1. Besides their dumb rules, who do they think they are saying they can search a person? At best, they can deny entry, but anything else is just bluster, unless they are just using metal detectors to "search" people. Good luck on keeping out cameras unless you prohibit all phones. If you give any entity an ounce of power, then they always try to take more, and end up with this junk.
  2. I didn't get the replacement magazine until 2 weeks ago, after multiple calls to S&W (they said it was due to closing and moving a warehouse). I had no problems with the new magazine when I shot it. This week, they sent me a new spring with no notice. The new spring is significantly longer than the original spring. The replacement magazine has the same size spring as the original, but it feels stiffer. The new spring is definitely stiffer. I'm going to try it in the original magazine this week. Since my first post in this thread, I have found other reports of stovepipes that were suspected to be due to the spring. The general thought is that because they made the magazine so easy to load, the spring might not have enough omph for the last round. Also, I have been consistently shooting to the left, even with the rear sights drifted to the farthest extent. I know that usually that is shooter error for a right-hand shooter, but I was having tight groups consistently the left of the target. Also, could shoot my LC9, with its long trigger pull, more accurately immediately after shooting the Shield. I found one report on a message board about the front sight wiggling. When I checked the gun, I could definitely move the sight slightly because it has a locking pin on the inside of the slide that allowed movement. I fixed it with Locktite tonight and I'll see if I shoot better.
  3. St. Elmo has been revitalized, which means at one point, it was devitalized. Most of the area is OK, but it is within walking distance of not OK areas.
  4. Thanks for all the responses; I anticipated what the general opinion would be (because I agree that getting a permit/license would be easiest). I have actually considered broaching the idea of paying for permits and license as a an employee benefit, I'm not quite sure how that would go over both from a financial point and from a social point. With the new concealed only, non-enhanced TN permit next year, there will be closer parity between the minimum that Georgia residents pay compared to TN residents. As for how LEO might respond to private property carry, please consider this hypothetical scenario: Suppose Best Buy has no policy prohibiting employees from carrying at work, but those same employees are required to park at the far end of the parking lot. Assume most Best Buy stores are leaseholds, and they share common parking in a shopping center with many other stores. In other words, there is no designated "Best Buy" parking. An employee without a permit legally keeps a gun in her glove box. When she gets to work, she transfers the gun to her purse, walks the length of the parking lot, and then enters the store. We agree that she is legal in her car and in the store; is she legal in the parking lot? Any former LEO have to answer a "man with a gun" call in such a situation? I could foresee the rare case where another person sees the transfer of the gun from glove box to purse and might be concerned. Once again this situation would be moot with a permit, but that is not happening for some in the near future. Also, it is usually pretty clear who works at Best Buy based on the uniform. On weekends, when our hospital is closed, the assistants are wearing normal clothes when they come to the hospital for after hour shifts. Other than seeing that they possess a key or calling someone else who works there, I'm not sure how a LEO could positively identify one of our employees as legit on the weekend. In the past, when an employee had interactions with the local PD after hours, as far as I know there was not problems (i.e., thinking the employee was a burglar or such).
  5. If I were the owner of the business, I would make getting a permit or license a company benefit, but I am not the owner. Several are Georgia residents, and I have repeatedly pointed out how to get a Georgia Weapons Carry License, but very few have taken those steps. As for phone notification, the owner carries a flip phone, and (like me) keeps it off when he is at home. Back to the original question, has anyone dealt with "place of business" carry? It is obviously codified in the TN law, but are LEOs well versed in that particular exception to the general prohibition against carrying?
  6. The dogs are walked in an area enclosed by a tall chainlink fence; the camera monitored the area. The fence is locked, but obviously that will not stop certain types of problems. It is the only area to walk dogs, other than outside the fence. The local PD does drive around the back of the building (where the dog walk area is), but I know they won't be patrolling it constantly.
  7. First, I am going to apologize that I have not been able to find the information that I need, but I have tried. Specifically, I am trying to clarify when and where a person can carry a gun in Tennessee without any permit. This does not apply to me. My office recently had someone steal the camera watching the back area, and the employees (most of who are women) are disturbed. The person knew how to stay out of view, and used a rabies catch pole (not from our hospital) to snare the camera. Veterinary hospitals have three things that criminals of various flavors want--money, drugs, and women. This particular area that the camera covered is where the staff would walk dogs, and on the weekends, they would be alone. The hospital is in a leasehold in a shopping center. The parking lot is shared by various businesses. Parking spots that they may use range from right outside the door to the other end of the shopping center. There are no current prohibitions against gun inside the business. According to 39-17-1308, they would not need a permit to have a gun in the car. They may also carry at their "place of business" and "premises" besides their residences. I thought I had read a thread on this site addressing this issue, but I could not find it. It is my understanding that "place of business" means where a person works (as opposed to owning the business). The problem is the parking lot. It is definitely not owned by the business (the veterinary hospital), but I think a reasonable person might consider it part of the business. Those without permits (which is most of them) who wish to carry a gun inside would have to cross the parking lot. I'm not sure how a LEO would see it, and I think the further away the parking is from the building, the less it seems like it is part of one entity known as "the place of business." Does anyone want to share an opinion? The easiest solution would be to get permits (or licenses in the case of the Georgia residents), but I know money is an extreme restriction for many of them. One lady, for example, only has a pistol because her father left her the gun when he died. Also, can anyone refresh me on if there are any knife restrictions in Tennessee? Thanks.
  8. We went to the McKamey Animal Center (animal shelter in Chattanooga) today. I noticed on their regular main entrance (which was locked because they were having a "clear the shelters" event) that they had sign reading, "No Concealable Weapons" with a circle and slash over a revolver and knife. Definitely does not fit the legal requirements of the law to be an official posting, but their sentiments are clear. Looked somewhat faded, so it may have been there a while. The sign must be something you can get at a hardware store, because I'm pretty sure that I have seen the same sign on an arts center in Dalton, Georgia. Definitely did not have any Tennessee-specific wording on it.
  9. All right, trying the broken link again: http://psychology.usf.edu/faculty/data/ddiamond/Research_on_Why_Parents_Forget_Children_in_Hot_Cars.pdf This article might have a more succinct version of the same researcher's findings: https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/anyone-could-forget-kids-in-hot-car-forgotten-baby-syndrome/ From the BMJ article previously cited: So more people unintentionally left their kids in hot cars than those that intentionally did so. I think it is safe to assume that the people who killed their kids while they went to play video poker or smoke meth fall in the "intentional" category, and a large number of the "unintentionally forgotten" children were by probably stable people. The fact that they normally took the kids to daycare and had jobs suggests at least some stability. Also, if you browse the various news interviews of people who killed their kids this way, they generally seem like normal people. My point is, we can't just say "Don't leave your kids in the car, stupid!" That's like telling someone with depression to stop being sad. First we must understand the epidemiology, and then formulate solutions. I wonder about details such as did these parents use one of those mirrors that lets you see the child in the carseat? I rarely take our daughter anywhere in my car, but when I do, I can always see her due that type of mirror. Other things that might seem like minutia but could be important for preventing the problem--are the rear windows tinted? which way does the car face when parked at work? are kids in third row seats more likely to be unnoticed? I see it similar to the four rules of gun safety--I don't intend to ever need them, yet I practice them always, and I'm sure some of those people who shot themselves with "unloaded" guns wish they had done the same. This page might interest some of you: https://www.kars4kids.org/safety-app/itcanhappen/survey.php
  10. https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/1/33 http://psychology.usf.edu/faculty/data/ddiamond/Research_on_Why_Parents_Forget_Children_in_Hot_Cars.pdf Edited to try to fix the broken link.
  11. Those alarms for children in the car don't always work. There was a case in Chattanooga several years ago where a guy left his baby in the car that illustrates the mental disconnect that must occur for parents to leave children in the car. He had one of those alarms, and his car was parked right outside his office. The alarm went off several times, and he silenced it each time without even thinking that his kid was in the car. He thought someone was messing with car and didn't remember that he even had the baby that day. Probably from the moment he started driving and dropping off the older kids at school, he just went back into his everyday routine (that didn't involve taking the baby to daycare). Some of these cases are due to neglect by drug-using parents, and a few are done deliberately, but a shockingly large number are normal, stable people you would never think it would happen to. It is more than just forgetting; it is the brain going into autopilot with tragic consequences. If you had asked the Chattanooga man if he had the baby in the car that day, he would have said no, and even the question might not have jogged his memory.
  12. At the beginning of this thread, there was a bill summary posted which is pretty detailed, including the section about enhanced permit holders carrying on school property, and then there are the amendments to the bill. The bill as passed that was linked here: https://handgun.safety.tn.gov/WebFiles/HESS/2019LegislativeSynopsis.pdf (which is found in this thread: https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/111711-state-summary-of-new-gun-laws/). The bill on the synopsis page has no language even similar to the section pertaining to school carry. Was this language amended out in the Senate? I'm trying to figure it out now by reviewing the other amendments. Edit: So from I understand from the amendment history, is that basically in both the House and Senate, they deleted everything after the enacting clause and adding the bulk of the text that is now the signed bill. All I can find is the bill summary and the amendment history, but not the actual words of the originally introduced bill. I am inferring that the summary is the layman's language explaining what was in the original bill. I would like to see what the original bill said before it was amended. I know it is common to amend bills and sometimes completely change them, but on this page,(http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB1264), if you just read the summary, you get a far different impression of what changed in the law. I'm not used to Tennessee's legislative webpage, so maybe I am wrong.
  13. Today at the range my wife did a lot better. I told her to grip it like someone was trying to take the gun. There were two jams that I think are magazine related. I had previously marked one of the two magazines that seem to have more problems, and today, there were two instances in which the last round got stuck bullet facing the sky in the partially closed slide. When I called, Smith and Wesson, they have heard of similar problems, and are sending a new magazine. I suspect that the spring has marginal tension on the last round, and sometimes it can't push it up fast enough as the slide closes. Makes me wonder how prevalent the problem is; they didn't even ask for the serial number of the gun, and don't want me to send back the old magazine.
  14. I agree that as written above, it looks like the law gives an exemption to enhanced permit holders about school property. If it doesn't, then it is going to confuse a lot of people. Right now, the only major differences between the benefits of the two permits looks like the ability to carry openly and how long they are valid. An average person, reading the above law, could reasonably think that one of the "enhancements" is getting to carry more places. I'm going by a plain English reading of the law. If it is a mistake, then they need to clarify before someone carries on some college greenway and think they are OK.
  15. I second the suggestion of using an outdoor antenna and connecting it using the existing coaxial in the house. I originally had an antenna in the attic, but I moved it outside (attached on the lowest part of the eave that I can reach with a ladder). The coaxial from the antenna goes through the soffit, into my attic, and then down the wall to the outdoor cable distribution box. I can get nearly the same reception in any room in the house (some degradation with the furthest runs of cable). I could have just ran the cable down the side of the house, but for a little more effort, I was able to mostly hide the cable. Fishing the cable with my wife tested our relationship though. I live south of Chattanooga, so most of the broadcast antennas are in the same general direction, but two stations have their antennas further away than the others. A difference of just 5 degrees affects the reception from these stations; so I used tvfool.com and a compass to aim precisely at these towers. The other stations are closer and come in clear just pointing in the general direction. When I tried to use individual indoor antennas, I would get some interference with the close stations, and sometimes no signal at all on the farther stations.

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