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[quote name='nightrunner' timestamp='1355112418' post='857635'] Take a .410 shotgun shell and replace the shot with rock salt. Fire it through a shotgun not a judge. It burns and they dont forget it and it wont kill them from a reasonable range. [/quote] Nightrunner has an excellent solution here if ya dont want to kill the dogs. I'd try to shoot em at about 30 or so yards out. Closer might kill em. Good luck. leroy

This is a genuine tragedy. There are simply no words for this one. Guns thought to be unloaded are the most dangerous thing there is to be handled. You simply cannot afford to "think" they are unloaded. You must know they are unloaded. I saw this on a personal basis in my younger days. A family close to us had a 5 year old handle a "thought to be unloaded shotgun". She was killed on Thanksgiving Day. It almost destroyed the family; and it was a big one. The uncle with the "thought to be unloaded shotgun" never got over it. My prayers go out to this family. leroy

It is art my man!! It looks great!! keep up the good work. leroy

Jason Whitlock is a childish hack with no notion of what principles this country wuz founded on or anything else for that matter. I think it is hilarious that a son of perdition like Whitlock would presume to lecture anyone about anything; much less call them names and attempt to draw comparisons on any subject . The real "kkk" characters in this story are the socialist political elites who have enslaved the black and poor commuities by tellin them they dont need men, sellin 'em dope, and keepin them on the dole. The "worshipers" and users of the sports world who have elevated these thugs to godlike status and provided cover for their irresponsible actions; and the appologisers who say "its too hard to be a star". I say:"...let 'em reap the harvest". No one with a sintilla of intellect is goin to believe his jiberish anyway. leroy

Used to carry one in a Maxpedition bag. Wuz a model 629. No problem at all to carry. If ya carry a briefcase or something big enough to carry books or a laptop in; the maxpedition stuff works like a charm. No one pays any attention to folks carryin business and computer type bags. If ya carry the revolver in a holster; get yourself some good suspenders; you'll need 'em. leroy

[quote name='AmericanWorkMule' timestamp='1354678393' post='855096'] Why do they get away with this? It's unreal [url="http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/20258174/owners-of-prized-puppy-shot-by-chicago-cop-to-sue-cpd-first-on-fox"]http://www.myfoxchic...pd-first-on-fox[/url] [/quote] I think this one is interesting. If i remember right, this is a pretty nice location in Chicago (...north side...). These folks have been voting for this sort of stuff for years. I say if they like it; get as big a load of it as ya can handle, and keep right on likin it. How's that workin out for ya??? Show dog owners dont usually live in "across the track" locations.. This stuff is evidently ok down in the inner city of chicago where the poor folks live. We'll see how well it works out in the affluent neighborhoods. My only concern is for the dog(s) who might be in danger from these overbearing jackasses. Chicago never dissapoints. It always wuz and is still is a sewer, no matter the location or socio-economic status of the citizens. How's that worker's paradise workin out for ya socialist sons of satan? Looks to me like ya got the makins of a jack booted thug police organization in at least one precinct in the 'burbs. I say: "...call Rahm and get him to fix this one up. If the pup dies maybe ole Rahm can raise him from the dead. Afterall, everything is possible with these sons of b*****s. This is the great liberal utopia the boschelvics dream of...." leroy

Like DaddyO and mmrob said: Keep ya a good OWB holster and a long shirt or overall jacket (....i like the d. m bullard stuff...) and/or a pocket gun (...i carry a sig 238 in a bullard pocket holster...) in your front pocket. If ya wear dungarees or overalls, ya can stuff a glock 33 or a glock 27 in a hip pocket holster (...i like Alan Miller's kydex...). Works like a charm. leroy (...round man, 300 lbs, no xtra room in my pants either....)

Mike: Find some of our buddies that are SASS shooters. I'm sure there are some in the Nashville area. They could probably point ya to someone who handles the ubertis. While i on the subject; i love the ubertis, especially the Cimmarons. We have several cap and ball revolvers. The fit and finish is good. The action may need tinkering with; but that aint a big deal. leroy

Weve got one (...a single shot; no receiver cut for magazine. Makes the action stiffer...). It is a 300 win mag with a wooden stock bedded with devcon and free floated 28 inch remington proof barrel. With a high magnification scope (...16x...), it will shoot better than i can hold. If i remember right; it would shoot about 1/2 to 5/8 at 300 yards off a roll shootin from the prone position. They were the gold standard of the long range rifles 30 or so years ago. They used to be used in national match and long range (....1000 yd...) shooting before the custom rifles came into vogue. No idea what one is worth today. leroy

Thanks for posting this. I've seen it before; and i think its a a great approach that cuts thru all the baloney assumptions. The fact is that nothing trumps accuracy with pistol, rifle, or shotgun. The second thing is that it takes more than one shot to finish most attackers off. The fact is that there aint no "magic bullets" and their aint no "magic calibers". As the great Baron Von Steuben told the continental riflemen (...i think it wuz him...). The most important thing is "accuracy and precision" in shootin. leroy

Thanksgiving is a time to be thankful for family and God's blessing. I always try to be thankful on the other 364 days in the year too. Sometimes i have trouble and whine a bit; but im tryin to quit. All that bein said; ive worked every "holiday" or "family event" there is; except Christmas; and i may have worked one Christmas day (...cant remember....). Most of the time it wuz away from home. My employer payed me for everyone of them. For that i am thankful. I know what it means to be away from home and family on special days. My job required it; and that's what i did. All that is part of bein an adult. As Mike said above, it's another day of the week. Celebrate when you are off. Lots of people will be workin on Thanksgiving. They keep the water, electricity, tv, and internet on. They will move the freight by rail, truck, air, and sea. They keep you safe from monsters both at home and abroad. If ya get sick, they will care for you. The list goes on and on. The point is that in this country, we all need to be thankful. We may not like everything thats goin on; but most everyone of us has more than they need to eat, a place to live, a job to go to (....some or most...), and no one is commin to kick our door down and take what they want. More than that, we are armed. I say: "....Happy Thanksgiving to all. It dont matter when ya celebrate it...!! We are all very blessed!!!....". leroy

As my 23 year old is fond of sayin: "....A certain amount of nuttiness and outlandishness is necessary everywhere. It keeps everybody thinkin....!....". The original poster did us all a favor. We wondered if it wuz true and how it could be done. I see that as a good thing. leroy

I like it!! Enjoy!! PS: Cant wait to see the range report! leroy

Great pup!!!! enjoy!! leroy

Dave: [quote]....Nonsense (...[i].to the "big government contractor thing -- leroy addition[/i]....). 70% of Boeings sales are overseas and Boeing is one of the largest exporters of manufactured goods in the U.S. [/quote] Check this out: [quote] [b] Revenues as Reported[/b] [b]Boeing Co., Income Statement, Revenues[/b] USD $ in millions [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Spreadsheet/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues.xls"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/spreadsheet-24x24.png[/img][/url] [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Spreadsheet/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues.ods"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/open-office-24x24.png[/img][/url] 12 months ended Dec 31, 2011 Dec 31, 2010 Dec 31, 2009 Dec 31, 2008 Dec 31, 2007 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/5-8-5-3"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Commercial Airplanes 36,171 31,834 34,051 28,263 33,386 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/5-8-5-4"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Military Aircraft 14,947 14,238 14,057 13,492 13,685 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-5"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Network & Space Systems 8,673 9,455 10,877 11,338 11,696 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-6"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Global Services & Support 8,356 8,250 8,727 7,217 6,699 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-7"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Defense, Space & Security 31,976 31,943 33,661 32,047 32,080 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-8"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Capital Corporation 532 639 660 703 815 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-9"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Other segment 138 138 165 567 280 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-8-0"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Unallocated items and eliminations (82) (248) (256) (671) (174) [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/Revenues-Ending-Balance"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Knowledge-Base/Revenues"]Revenues[/url] 68,735 64,306 68,281 60,909 66,387 Source: Boeing Co. Annual Reports [/quote] Got it from here: [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues"]http://www.stock-ana...alysis/Revenues[/url] Check the math for 2011. US gubmt business: 31,976. Commercial planes: 36,171. Total; 68,735. 46.5% gubmt business. I dont know about you; but it looks pretty like a pretty big part of their business to me. leroy

Dave: RE: This. [quote].....No one is making anyone join a union. The NLRB was reacting to union breaking tactics being used by Boeing. They have their SC non-union plant. .... [/quote] South Carolina is a "right to work state". We can quibble about the details; but the way i see things; the South Carolina thing wuz nothin more than a chance to punish a "right to work" state and help a "closed shop" state under the guise of "labor fairness"; which is baloney anyway; because all government contracts of any size require either a "closed shop" or a "prevailing wage" based on union scale (...the Bacon-Davis act....). I'm even willing to grant that Boeing wuz engaging in union busting activities. All that bein said; you can bet that the NLRB wuz doing what they were doin for political reasons; because that's what they do. The NLRB is nothin more than a congregation of mad dog political hacks makin the best of any opportunities they might have to push their political enemies around under the guise of "partnering with labor". If they happended to do the "right thing" (....according to the union model....); you can bet they did it for the wrong reasons. It's nothin more than a "scorched earth" opportunist political move; pure and simple. Nothin more than advancing the union political model at best; or punishing enemies of the state at worst. The fact is, and has been, that the federal government favors union membership and has since 1933. This is a fact, not conjecture. The reason: its politically expedient--- it used to, and still does buy votes. Even with the large government meddling into private company affairs; union membership today is in the neighborhood of 7% or so (....excluding government type unions--state, local, federal...). We've been havin a referendum on union membership over the last 80 or so years. The unions gained members thru the 50's but have been steadily loosin them for the last 60 or so years. The high wuz at about 36%; its now 7% (...about 13%, if ya count government unions....). I aint beating ya or anybody else up that belongs to the union. Anyone may belong to the union or not if they want to (...presuming one is available...); but dont demand that one be set up or meddle in the business decisions of the companies doin business; nor tell companies where they are gonna do business. The NLRB is nothin more than a lapdog for whatever the current political regieme wants to do. The only reason that the NLRB could meddle in the Boeing thing is that Boeing is a government contractor; and depends almost exclusively on the government for it's business. The fact is that the SC plant would have had to pay the "equivalent wage scale" for non-union work in SC that it would have paid in Washington state due to the closed shop thing due to the terms of the Bacon-Davis Act to fulfill the terms of the government contracts they would work on. There is no federal contract of any size (....certainly not airplane size...) that does not include a requirement to involk the terms of the Davis-Bacon Act which essentially mandated a "union equivalent" wage; it's simply called a "prevailing wage". Wages (...and contract cost....) would have been a wash either way; all things considered. This Boeing thing was, indeed, the NLRB flexing its muscles and pickin winners and loosers. My guess is that it wuz punishing a republican administration in SC and rewarding a demorat administration in WA. I predict you will see more of it. I also predict you will see more attempts by the federal government to mitigate or meddle in the "right to work" thing; because it's repeal is the holy grail of the labor movement; and the demorats are beholdin to big labor. Here is an interestin discussion of the "right to work" thing: [url="http://www.sba.gov/community/blogs/community-blogs/business-law-advisor/unions-right-work-states-vs-non-right-work-st-0"]http://www.sba.gov/c...right-work-st-0[/url] . Here is a list of "right to work" states: [quote]....Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming...[/quote] Notice there aint any "blue" right to work states (...outside of Indaina: [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/us/indiana-becomes-right-to-work-state.html..."]http://www.nytimes.c...k-state.html...[/url]). leroy

Dave: RE: This question: ...."Who is forcing unionization on anyone?..." Remember the NLRB and Boeing in SC? SC is a "right to work" state. An accomodation wuz reached here because Boeing is a federal contractor; and they negotiated with the NLRB and reached an "accomodation" (...read that: the feds told boeing they would turn the big contracts off if they didnt seek an accomodation....). The SC boeing plant lost work and Boeing agreed to send more work back to the Seattle, WA plant that is unionized and had struck. That effectively took work from SC workers and send to work to striking workers in Seattle. I predict ya will see some fighting pretty quick over this in other "right to work" states. Think "card check" here instead of "secret ballot" on unionization. What's goin on now is just another round of meddling and union patronage. The original "forcing unionization" thing manifested itself in 1933 when the great god roosevelt came down on the side of the unions in the west virginia coalfields. He did, in fact, force unionization on those who did not want it. leroy

[quote name='Hershmeister' timestamp='1353244409' post='847528'] Lester - your boyles law example assumes a fixed pie (no pun intended) As the Chinese workers make more money their wage expectations grow. [/quote] The "fixed pie" thing is very important. When ya have a government that assumes the "fixed pie" model (...as does nobama and all other socialist leanin jackasses....); ya tend to kill the means for makin the pie bigger. That is:... gettin up off of producers (...think "war on coal" here, union work rules (...think hurricane sandy and long island....), forcing unionization on "right to work" states, etc... Those moves either makes the pie fixed or makes it smaller. I think that today, it makes the pie smaller because of lester's analysis of the multinational companies movin to more business friendly locations (....think jeep thinkin about movin from cleveland to china here...). We've (....the collecive "we"; both demorat and republican administrations; much more with nobama, however...)...) been whoopin up on business for a pretty long time. The chickins are commin home to roost. That's the "world economy" suckin sound ya hear --- jobs movin to other countries because the colletive we and our political pimps are meddlin in the ecomomy and pickin "winners and loosers". All those who work for a company and are represented by a union need to remember that it makes no difference what the wage scale and venefits packages are if there aint any jobs. Remember, Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" says that ya create wealth via the capitalist model. We here in amerika tend to meddle too much in it. It's the sport of both parties. leroy

Flood damaged cars man!! They are tryin to get ya to walk around the "lemon law". My bet is that these cars are hurricane damaged or somethin close. They are afraid that there a good chance of a serious electronic or grounding problem that could show up pretty quick. Good for you not signing. leroy

[quote name='S&WForty' timestamp='1353178290' post='847258'] Leroy, since you've spent a lot on holsters already, to save some $, buy a kit from Old Faithful holsters. The stage 3 kit is $39 with the std leather. All you do is assemble it. Check out stage 1 and 2 as well. While researching holsters, I read on another forum where even Crossbreed is not the original maker of the hybrid leather/kydex design, but they have been the most successful and everyone recognizes them as the originator. Theis Holsters is another alternative, but the cheapest way to try this style out is Old Faithful. [/quote] Thanks S&W; ill take a look and probably send them some dollars too. leroy

[quote name='Runco' timestamp='1353104245' post='846837'] If round means like +300lbs, yes it works great for me (Crossbreed), just wear at the 5pm position. [/quote] [quote name='NashvegasMatt' timestamp='1353172461' post='847226'] hahaha... well, im not particularly round, but It's all about the placement of the holster as well... I'm a 5:30 guy myself... i know plenty of 3:00 people though. even a handful of 2:30's [/quote] Thanks guys. Ive got a pretty good Andrews holster that works fair; but it's pretty narrow . My problem is gettin one to work in the 5:30 neighborhood. I cant seem to find the sweet spot right in the kidney region. I always get pinched a bit. Matts post about the placement of the holster is dead on. What always happens to me is i buy a pretty good holster thinkin i can make it work; try it and get a bit uncomfortable; and wind up carrying the glocks in my hip pocket at the end of all the holster buying. Exactly where i started to begin with, only poorer by the cost of the most recent holster. I've got andrews leather, bullard, el paso, and everything else ya can think of. I havent tried the crossbreed (...or one of their clones yet...). I always wind up carryin the baby glocks in my hip pocket or overall jacket pocket. It's a sickeness, i guess. Thanks a bunch. leroy

Do any "round men" use the "supertuck"? If so, how's it workin out for ya? leroy

Looks to me like the hamas children and Iran have called the fire down. The pesky jews will make short work of hamas and probably Iran as well. I think we are about to see the "gates of hell unleashed" (...to borrow the hamas propaganda....) on the hamas children everywhere; now that the pesky jews have a decent anti missile system, improved smart weaponry, and the assurance that the Nobamaites wont help. I predict that we may well hear the rumble of a few earth boring nukes in the neighborhood of Iran in a few days. I say: "...God bless the pesky jews (...He will anyway...)...". I think this will look pretty much like the Osirak Reactor Raid in the early eighties and the Syrian raid (...alKibar; i think....). The world (...including the great Nobama and his pimps...) will take turns villifying the jews in the UN for being warmongers; but it wont make any difference. The guilty will be dead, incenerated, or just blowed up. The pesky jews will have cleaned up another problem without the help of the rest of the world. They will be villified for it; but the world will owe them a great debt of gratitude. The jews dont need our help; it's just a "nice to have". I say: "....Sickem IDF and IDAF!! Kill 'em till they leave ya alone (...again...)....". leroy

Heres some good news for Kerry: http://moonbattery.com/?p=21076 enjoy leroy

When i saw the title of the post; i thought it wuz what the dems used to buy votes in certain neighborhoods. In the old days it used to be a half pint of Old Crow. Sorry for the confusion. leroy