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Papa:_____________   I agree with the opinion that the "ron paul" faction and the 'tea party" faction are (...in most cases...) two different factions.  You and i know that and can agree on it; but look at it from the karl rove goofy perspective: "...they are all the same ignorant rustics...".  That's what i think is goin on with the "tweet" thing.  They are tryin to besmirch and smear all factions that oppose them.  They aint worried about separating them; they dont like either one of 'em.   RE:  Isolationism..  Ive come to believe that continuous foreign war against some "implacable enemy" is a bad foreign policy decision; and that it is ethically indefensible.   There is no nation on the face of the earth that is more powerful, more feared, nor more aggressive than the United States (...when we take the notion...).  The main problem with foreign war is that, for the most part, it is unnecessary and does great internal damage to this country and it's citizenry.    Take a look at the broken lives, maimed bodies (...both body and spirit...), orphaned children, and widowed wives that this "war on terror" has wrought.  All for a war that wuz won in about six weeks.  I can support the six week war; i just cannot ethically support a continuous war against an "implackable enemy.".  Could it be that we are sacrificing our fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, and children in endless foreign wars to feather the nest of various special interest groups?  This is, indeed, a sobering and thought provoking question.  I would recommend that anyone who thinks about these things read this little book: "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler.  The examples are a bit dated, but the message conveyed is, indeed, sobering.    For what it's worth, i didnt come to this conclusion hastily; nor did i want to believe it could be true.  It is antithetical to most folks (...mine included...) deeply held ethical and political beliefs; and is an affront to the principles on which this country was founded.  I have come to believe that while we are fortunate to live in the greatest country on the face of the earth, founded by the greatest set of founding beliefs and documents; we have raised up a morally bankrupt, ethically decrepit bunch of elitist politicians (...for the most part...) to lead us and make these world shaking decisions; many of which are both wrong and by design are made with an eye toward lining someone's pockets. As Butler said:  "...War is reckoned in dollars and paid for in blood...".   Dont be dragged off into the brier patch by those who say that "strategic interests" and "dangerous factions" are about to finish this nation off; and that we need to continue with this foreign intervention to ward off these "grievous dangers".  The swiss have been mindin their business for centuries.  No one has successfully threatened them.   I fully realize that this opinion may be a "minority opinion"; but it needs to be carefully though about by every american citizen.   leroy

Lester:___________ I dont think that they use lead styphenate now; but i aint sure what they use.   leroy

What Ron Paul thinks is a personal matter that he should have kept quiet about in a perfect world.  Like kieffer and mav; i believe that this is nothin more but a cheap shot attack on the "Ron Paul" faction of the electorate and the Tea Party.  What we or anyone else thinks about the Chris Kyle tragedy is just that; a bunch of thoughts; that most folks, includin me should keep to themselves.  I say its political chicanery to besmirch and smear this old man and, by implication, to besmirch and smear his ideals; which, at heart, are isolationist, and very popular among the Tea Party faction (...me included...).    Remember this, America was an isolationist country up until 1898.  We need to quit meddling in other people's business, and tend our own.  If we did more of that; men like Chris Kyle and other veterans would not have to risk their lives, bleed, and die for the likes of foreigners who hate us and our ideals.  Could it be that we are doin the wrong thing by meddlin in everybody else's business?  Its a very interesting thought.   leroy

I like Rand Paul.  He says most everything that i believe.  Let's hope that he aint just another lyin polititian.   RE:  The future of the republicans.  If folks like Rand Paul and others who are actually conservative and believe that the constitution and the bill of rights actually means what it says dont win the ongoing fight within the republican party against the likes of the "bluenose general bullmoose" type republicans like the disgraceful carl rove; the republican party will cease to exist and morph into the demorat party.  I see where the great rove and others like him are busily committing circular firing squad suicide by workin on a bluenose super pac to fight the tea party candidates.  A sure way to move to permanent minority status or extinction.   Here's hopin. leroy

Lester.  Ya remembered right.  The stuff in old primers wuz Lead styphnate .  There aint anything wrong with your brain brother! We might could quibble about mine a bit though.   leroy

There is no doubt that the executive branch of this current government is harassing businesses with "silly raids" and "capritious prosecutions" of political enemies (...read that anyone with money who is a republican...).  The Gibson  rosewood thing is the greatest example i can think of at the moment.  The demorats are, in fact, punishing republican donors and threatening their political enemies.  I cant wait for them to pick on the right one with this.  I'm lookin forward to them tryin the wrong guys out.  They will finally take one over the line and get caught.  This is just another reason the despise this bunch of chicago thugs and vote as many demorats as ya can out of office in 2014.   Remember, vote early and often. leroy

Interestin stuff.  Thanks for posting this.   leroy

Used to do some of this lead related stuff.  Lead bullets (...that means with lead exposed....) wont hurt you unless ya get shot with them. If you handle bare lead, wash your hands before you eat or drink.  The main way to get lead into your body is thru ingestion.  All said, all done; this is a "...no, nevermind....".  Another case of nanny state scare tactics. Hope this helps. leroy

53:_____________ I've had 'em go off a time or two usin a single stage press and priming arm.  As others have said; "..."too much pressure.  Ya crushed the primer and set it off...".  The problem is that it's hard to "feel" sometimes when the primer seats.  Iv'e fixed this little problem by usin a lee hand primer.  Ya can "feel" the primer seat and get just the "right amount of pressure" to seat the primer like it should  be.  I load lots of ammo; but i hand prime all the rifle stuff and almost all the pistol stuff.  I'll occasionally prime with my dillon progressive; but most of the time i hand prime everything.   Hope this makes ya feel a bit better.  You aint the only reloader to ever do this.   leroy

I think the kahr is a helluva idea.  The size is what sells these little guns, and kahr is a good product.  I'm lookin to buy one myself and ive got a sig 238 in my front pocket now.     leroy

Interestin read.  Thanks for posting it!!   leroy

Thanks for posting this.  Very interestin in that it appears to take a side (...the right one...). That bein said; I always worry about two things; ... the first is..."todays truth is tomorrow's lie..."; and bring non committal.  I'm no fan of Lamar Alexander, but i will give him credit for doin the right thing at this particular instant; always rememberin that tomorrow is another day.  Let's hope he actually believes and will act on what he says here.   Thanks again for posting this. leroy

I like it!!.  Got it's brother in a 26 inch single shot Remington 40X.  Great shooter.  Plenty of "kawhomp" on the target at about any range.  The only complaint is findin a place to shoot that has enough range length.  The only complaint is the brass "growin" pretty quick.  I would make sure that i neck sized the brass to keep the case stretch calmed down.  The 180 grainers and up did the best in our rifle (...sierra matchkings...) usin IMR 4350.   Congratulations and have fun! leroy

Thanks for posting.   leroy

OS:_________ We aint beatin ya up man.  I think everybody is just stirred up about all this.  I know i am.  No 'blasphemous' remarks were intended. I firmly believe the words in your signature line below your posts here:     It's true.  The only thing that will work on the polititians is fear of being voted out.  I also can identify  with your lack of confidence in them.   leroy

AUG has spoke a great truth here:        "Real people" will win this battle.  It's a battle between the folks that believe that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and the "fiefdoms of the big cities".  "Low information" people like unwed moms with absentee fathers are for gun bans because they cant bring themselves to believe that the "children" using these guns in gangs, mayhem, and robberies are actually kin to them (...they are, in many cases...) and are, in fact, responsible for their actions.  The cause, in their minds, at least is that "guns are bad"; "someone gave it to 'em", you name it.  Its a created "fantasy" that says someone else (...us gun owners...) are somehow responsible for this problem.  It is a fantasy of shirking of responsibility and placing blame on others for the failures of those involved; just as it's always been.   The inner city in fully invested in the narrative that "...someone else is responsible for the mess im in; and i should be excused for any mayhem and crimes ive done because someone else put me down..."   That mantra has been goin on since the sixties.  The inner city preachers and "men and women of the cloth" are invested in it because it shifts blame to someone else and allows them a pass on saying what is really goin on.  That is, that where the family dies, society crumbles; and that "bad hearts" and evil minds are the root of crimes, rapes, murders, killins, etc.  Folks dont like to hear that; it's too uncomfortably true and it hurts to admit that "...you are ressponsible for your own actions...".  It's a whole lot easier to talk about some  unseen monster puttin ya down; than it is to tell the truth, and they well know it.  The demigogues in the religion enterprise, the "civil rights" enterprize, and the stinkin big city polititians are invested in it because it empowers them and creates followers of the narrative.  These people could give a damn less about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment, or you and me; for that matter. They care about power and influence, and nothin else.   To them, we are the enemy; although i dont (...and i suspect that you dont either...) remember enslaving anyone up there, takin anything from them, nor mistreating them in any way.  This bunch of sons and daughters of satan intend to "enslave whitey and the delightful rustics" who dont see things their way.  It is nothing but an attempt at "scorched earth" retribution ALA post -civil war reconstruction aimed at punishing people who dont see things their way.  It is dangerous, devisive, and could come to a bad end.    We need to keep the pressure on the political class to ensure that the idiotic things proposed by harpys like Feinstein and demigogues like Nobama dont get codified into laws "to help everyone".  It's time for folks to realize that this country has been separated and balkanized by these sons of satan to the extent that most no one cares about this "big city" neighbors, and the "big city" neighbors despise their rustic neighbors who actually believe what the Constitution says.    This thing aint goin away, nor will it be settled sensibly as long as men like Nobama and this cronies are sittin in the white house.  It's been said here and in other places im sure, that the greatest threat to this country aint religious zelotry, Bin Laden, North Korea; nor Iran.  The greatest threat to this country today is the extreme left wing political class demigogues who inhabit the political scene in this county who intend to make this place into a semi-european fiefdom where there are two classes.  The ruling class and the serfs.  Im sure you can easily figure out who is who in this evil fantasy.    The only thing that folks can hope to do is to keep the political class honest and afraid to "compromise for the common good" on these issues.  The only way to keep 'em honest is to keep the pressure on them.  Dont worry about winnin the undecideds and the media over to out side; its too late for that.  As AUG said; this will have to be won at the grass roots level in the fly over country.  More than that, it will have to be fought at every level of government to the extent that the political class is afraid to move on these issues.   Said another way, it will have to be won at the ballot box in ever election between now and the end of the Nobama (...and any other demorat...) administration that puts forth socialist, totalitarian malarkey like this; all the while tellin you its for the "good of the children".  The most effective organization for doin this right now is the NRA.  I would quit complaining, third basing, and criticizing the folks tryin to win this one.  They are tryin to help.  I recommend that we try to help too.   leroy

Check midway (...midwayusa...).  Ordered a 500 round brick saturday.   leroy

If ya use a low trailer like bert recommends; ya can go down to the nearest rental store and rent 4 caterpillar rollers.  Ya can ease the safe down on the rollers and your kids can move it into place in the garage assuming everything is flat. It takes almost no force to move the load alone with the rollers. Ya can also do the old timey thing and use the scrap waterpipes.  What ever ya do; if its on a hill, dont let it get away if its on the rollers.  They work real well.  They look like roller skates and are about 4 inches or so high.  One under each corner works like a charm.   leroy

Me too.  Just say "when" us retired geezers got plenty of time.   leroy

res:____________   Try 12.0 grains of 2400 with most anybody's hard cast 158 to 173 grain bullet and a regular small pistol primer.  Iv'e used this load up to 13.5 grains of 2400 in 38 special cases.  It will duplicate the old 38 -- 44 high speed load that wuz used in the old time n frame smiths.  Also, take the time to check this link out:  http://castboolits.gunloads.com/archive/index.php/t-33906.html .   Ive shot the 13.5 grain loads out of a python for a good while; and plan to use the 12.0 grain loads with 173 grain bullets (...lyman 358429...) in an old model vaquero sheriff that i carry from time to time.  The truth be known; the 13.5 grain load is a genuine "hot" 357 load very similar to the 15.0 grain load in 357 mag cases.   For little revolvers (...in my case; j frame smiths...), i use 5.3 grains of unique and anybody's 158 grain hard cast semi wadcutter.  They bark pretty hard in the little all steel j frames.  I've chronographed them at an honest 900 fps + thru it (... 1-7/8 inch barrel...).   Hope this helps. leroy

Remember, the truth is always the truth regardless of timing or delivery.   I'm 66 years old and ive never seen the divide any deeper nor the rancor any nastier than it is now between the opposite sides of the political spectrum.  It's time to tell the truth.  These people want to disarm you and me; while keeping their arms and bodyguards.  It's nothin more that the social darwinism thing that wuz popular in the early 1900s. At its core; it says: "....We the elites are smarter and more responsible than you less evolved "ordinary citizens"; therefore we'll TELL YOU what's good for you and make you abide by it, because we are "more advanced beings; and you are too ignorant to know what's good for you; so we'll disarm you and threaten you with the power of the state to keep you in line....".     I wouldn't worry about offending these sons and daughters of satan.  They are tryin to disarm you and make you a serf while tellin you that that's not what their doing.  Finestein just as well have been standing on the caskets of the kids murdered at Newtown when she started this show.  It's political opportunism, pure and simple.    Remember, political figures are "public figures".   That's a choice they make goin into politics.  They bring their families along with them, and should have no expectation of privacy for themselves or their family members.  They may try "theatrics" and "feigned outrage" at those who criticize or point uncomfortable things out publically; demanding that family be "off limits" ALA Clinton and Nobama.  I say "baloney".  It's a "red herring"; they know better.  It's nothin but an opportunity to try to divert the conversation from the real issue to a side issue that really means nothing for tactical advantage. Dont get drug off in the woods with this baloney; that's what it is. The republicans criticized Truman's daughters piano playin ability; the demorats called Lincoln the "Illinois Baboon; the demorats said Bush wuz dumb.   They just may have been right on all counts.  They were, in fact, "unkind on all counts" and meant to be.  Politics is a tough business.   I say: "...The hell with most all of them... Theyve asked for this, let it be...".     Remember the great quote from a real hero and giant of politics, Fredrick Douglas: "...I will always join with those who are doing right, and never join with those who are doin wrong...".  That's exactly where we are today.  I refuse to turn on and "eat" those who are tryin to help in this battle.  I would advise you and others in the kindest way possible, not to do so either.   We're well past the point of worryin about hurting feelings and worryin about timing.  This one is for all the marbles.   leroy

Sam:____________   Thanks for posting this piece.  I wondered when the legislative branch would get a backbone and challenge some of this stuff.  I think there ought to be more of it.   leroy

Jay:_____________     This is a "play on words" man (...ya must be a lawyer or a philosophy professor...).  I will guarantee you that there are folks who are "grudgingly" either being forced to go unarmed (...due to the need to work...); or are, in fact, taking a risk by breaking a 'condition of employment" clandestinely in plenty of parking lots across this state (...think anywhere there is a large, remote parking lot for employees furnished by an employer...).  That's what this discussion is about.   You can make the arguement that you dont have to take the job and agree to the "conditions of employment"; but that smacks of the old time "company store" and "a hungry dog hunts the best" philosophy that the old timers had in the coal mines in the 1920's.  It leads to resentment and backlash.  It's basically a "winner take all" deal vs a "reasonable deal for all".  I've been done both ways in my relatively long span of 50 or so years of work and i like the "reasonable deal for all" option the best; and ive worked and managed work in some pretty tense situations.   RE:  Places where employees are "forced to go unarmed" in parking lots:   A real good example is the employee's parking lot at the Sequoyah Nuclear Plant and the Watts Bar Nuclear Plant.  I would be willing to bet that you can think of others.  They are anywhere that there is a plant, manufacturing facility, or depot (...think FEDEX and UPS here...) where there is a boundary fence and a designated employee parking area with a guard shack.  You can make the case that folks can park somewhere else and ride the bus to your place; but that's a red herring too.  At some point in the journey they are disarmed.   The point of all this aint to win an argument.  The point is to do the right thing for all involved.  Of course you can take up the position of "...like it or lump it..."; but that's a "...winner takes all proposition...".  If the political class takes that one up in this political climate; i predict they will be voted out.  The best they can hope to do is to "debate and study" the problem; delaying a decision as long as possible; but i predict this one aint goin away.  If i wuz a member of the political class, i would be real careful in the handling of this issue.  It's a hot button issue precisely because folks are concerned and edgy about their (...and their family's...) safety; and they well should be.  The "pandora's box" has already been opened on this one.  I predict it aint goin away.   I want to be real careful how i say this; but the "...position that the boss (...or corporation...) has the right to defend themselves; but that the employees dont...." smacks of the "political class" position that says that the "lesser children" are not smart enough or stable enough to handle and keep weapons in their own private property.  No american who believes in our system and the Constitution should believe such a thing; but that's the logical conclusion of the "...I can have it but you aint smart enough to have it arguement...".  It postulates that citizens (...or employees...) are a rabble to be controlled.  I dont think you intend for it to come across that way; but it does.  Anyway; it's food for thought.   I'll close this little epistle by way of sayin that there are plenty of cases of "settled law" (...think the landlord stuff here...) that have been reversed.  The "Jim Crow" and "Separate but Equal" thing comes to mind here. "Settled law" can (...and is...) reversed regularly.     Dont believe that what "always has been" will "always be".   leroy

Check this link out:  http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-opens-gun-control-presser-prayer-clergyman_697628.html   I think it's very interesting that a bunch of apostate statist would be tyrants would invoke the help of a God they dont believe in and enlist a churchman who is probably as apostate as they are to fight us gun owners and the evil NRA.  Ya know you are winnin when the opposition trys this theatrical malarkey.  Keep the pressure up.  It's workin (...for now, at least...).   leroy

Lester:______________   I'm overwhelmed brothah!!  That is the greatest, most eloquent, erudite explanation of the "yankee mind-set" ive ever had the priviledge to read!! Well done!!... Its good to be fellowship with such an erudite, eloquent, and insightful brother opiner.   Thanks for posting this eloquent dissertation.   leroy