papa61

20 plus years ago, two boys were suspended for having a Smoky Mountain Knife Works catalog in school. We have not stood up against these stupidities until here we are. The adage of putting a frog in a pot of water and turning the heat up slowly comes to mind. I hope the family gets a Johnny Cochran type and tears the school system a new one.

A co-worker's daughter goes to Oakland. There were also two unsubstantiated gun threats on the same day. My wife works at a middle school in Metro Nashville. I hear what goes on there and I am very concerned.

I used to carry a Jennings 22 fishing, I don't fish anymore but I wouldn't carry a 22 fishing anymore. 4 Stingers at 2 yards and the damned copperhead was still coming. Not very fast but it was coming. Long story short the hoe took care of it and all four slugs hit the mark. Shoot for the head of the snake guys. And carry a big enough pistol. One shot to the head would have stopped it but again, we fight like we train and all 4 rounds went center mass. I'm not afraid of snakes, except copperhead. And my two youngest boys and ex wife were there. The boys had stepped OVER the snake so it was fight time.

Since I don't use the belt clip I removed it. gives the thumb break strap more room. I have mine on the forward side to fit my pistol better. Glad you found what you needed.

I have been told a 2 liter will do for 22 subsonic. can't imagine how you'd aim the contraption.

For myself it isn't a mental hump. I have used red dots and don't care for them. Inside of the 7 yard line it's point and squeeze. Sights are not a thought. The way I was taught and practice does not rely on aligning sights in short range defensive use. I'm not advocating that for anyone, but it works for me, quite well. I don't use any optics unless I need magnification. Extreme astigmatism will cause issues for me at times with any optic. and as @1gewehr stated, electronics will fail. That may never be an issue but you fight the way you train. If that one in however many chance hits in a gunfight you're going to hesitate and we know what happens there. I have only recently picked up polymer framed pistols (other than my P32 which is over 30). I prefer heavier handguns for shooting. Recovery is just quicker and easier. All metal pistols are a pain to carry at times but as I have said, there's always a trade off. all that to say if we are going to lighter poly frame cut slide pistols for carry comfort, why add ounces back into the holster? Add to all of the cost involved choosing something that fits an optic you're comfy with and finding a comfy holster. It all adds time and expense that I don't want or need.

I encourage everyone to pick what they are comfortable with and practice, practice, practice then practice some more. But for the cost of a new pistol and optic I could shoot what I have enough to rival Jelly Bryce.

I'm not knockin' 'em. but I want everyone to know when I touch one off. LOL. Guess it would depend on the purpose.

I wouldn't use the AceCase for carry. I tried it and it just did not work for me. but they are good for this type of use. Especially with the mag pouch. Their fitment chart is pretty wide. Maybe contact them. Let us know how it comes out.

As bad as I hate saying so, try Walmart. They used to carry uncle Mikes's like you're asking about. If that doesn't work, try ACE CASE direct. I have one of these that's over 20 years old and still works as intended. It's on my bump in the night go belt. Extra Mag Holsters (Various Sizes) Nylon | Ace Case Manufacturing, LLC

I've not seen his work in person But I did see some of his stuff in magazine back in the day. My HS friend spoke highly of him as a person so I believe it. I've always been in awe of those who take one and rebarrel, change from 6 to five shot or any of the things he does. I would LOVE to do what he does but I'm way past the point of getting a return on the investment. In the end, if I'm in the market for a top end revolver, I know where to go hands down.

One of our members posted what his investment was for his Cali shop. Cost would dissuade most. It's a long learning curve also. Mr Bowen is to my understanding a true smith who could build a firearm from scratch.

I am not changing my routine just yet. But i did get a cheap rifle hard case and a bike lock cable a while back JIC.

So why do you shoot up a highway, run off leaving your car and AR with several mags behind? Why no motive in Geargia school shooting? Why no motive, sudden silence on Trump shooting? Some odd stuff happening.

When you're in high demand in low saturation you can pick and choose. Look at the price on a high end full custom 1911. The more exclusive you make yourself the more you can charge, providing there is reputation and demand. I'm thinking of Minton T-Bird resto shop. I can understand not working on vintage/historic pistols like OLD Colt's SAA. I can understand not working on some of the copies as there used to be some truly substandard reproductions. From What I've seen of Bowen, he really likes S&W and Ruger DAs. I can't say anything about any other custom smith. Not throwing shade at Cimmaron for sure. They make great replicas.

Girl I went to high school with went to law school with him. Not that she would or could pull any strings with him. She kinda hates me now. LOL. But he is excellent.

Louisville, TN. this is the only shop in TN I'd want to use for anything I can't do myself. + Bowen Classic Arms + Home

read a piece about doomerisim recently. People get overwhelmed with the gloom and doom and we spiral further into the doom. People are weary of the current state of our society. I fully understand why. Some days I'd head to my cabin in the woods myself if I had one.

and slipping off topic somewhat. I fully believe that "they" would and will try to disarm Americans completely. It is the basis of "their" platform to take care of you every need. Your diet, your health care, your security, what your children are taught, what kind of car you drive, what you can and cannot say. If you don't think "they" will actually try to take your guns you need to open your eyes to what they have already taken.

Where I went to high school, there were gun racks in trucks. Where I grew up there were a lot of adults strapped at all times. Yes, we could resolve things without weapons, one on one. We could also say "I'm going to kill you" and not be arrested for the rhetoric it was.

So we need parenting? Discipline? Morals? Yes we do! I keep several weapons at the ready. When my children were young I had one out of four that was not trustworthy. One who would sneak, scheme and work through barriers to access. I had to keep all but one empty and locked, I had one that was always within arms reach, ready to go. We have the responsibility as parents to understand our children and their tendencies. We have the responsibility of seeing that they are not perfect and see their faults. Adapt and overcome. Trust but verify. I have avoided the news on this shooting. I don't want to know what the media says, I don't care what the politicians have to say. This is tragic, as with the Nashville shooting, I'm sure clues were missed or ignored. We live in a time where parents will fight unceasingly for their children even if they know the child is wrong. So yes, we are all complicent allowing our society to get where we are. It's going to take adults to fix this. Not teachers and politicians but parents. Also, there have been two students in Nashville schools caught with guns this week. Do I think the timing of an election year is part of the issue? Sure, the rhetoric is not lost on our youngsters, they hear when the president says a GOP win will destroy our country.

These are a couple of the things in my opinion above about what is different.

You're pulling a lot of what if's here. Why not go so far as to say what happens when a kid steals a car, wrecks into a patrol car, and steals the officer's weapons? There were unsecured firearms in my home as a child. I never touched them without permission. There were hundreds available to my high school classmates, and there were many fights as well as bullying that went on. Therre were no shootings in any of my schools growing up and I never heard of any elsewhere. It isn't the guns, it isn't accessibility. I have my own opinion as to why but I'll let you figure out your own answers.

It's true, there have been great developments in arms and ammo. The example is evidence of that. I have explored options but I don't normally carry a 9mm. In fact I just traded my only 9mm for another .45. Oh I'll replace it with another micro sized pocket 9 at some point. The one that has gone everywhere every day for over 25 years has not been improved upon. There's only one pistol I know of smaller and lighter than my KelTec P32 and I don't carry it at all. I don't care for red dots on handguns and I am not fond of the huge mags on the hi cap 9s. There is also a trade off in accuracy for smaller and lighter.

that's me LMAO