Hozzie

If you want an O/U to fit in, you are in the ballpark for a nice Ruger Red Label if you look. People will ask $1000 - $1100, but I wouldn't go above $900. I would also highly recommend a 20 Gauge if you go that route. Will be nicer to shoot, and will hold a better value longer term in my opinion. If you want just a really nice, overall gun to use for Skeet, potentially some hunting, and really anything else, I would go for the Remington 1100. You can easily find one for $450-$600 and they will shoot well. Either 12 or 20 would be fine in that gun, plus you would save a little cash. Is it a competition gun, no, but for what you are wanting to do, it would be fine. In the end, it doesn't matter what gun it is, it's how you shoot it.

If you want to shoot some skeet and enjoy it, I would personally recommend a 20 gauge for starters. Less recoil and will still hit whatever you need. I have lots of each, and rarely get out a 12 gauge for trap or skeet. If I was going to only buy a 12 gauge for that purpose, it would be a semi-auto. That will also help reduce felt recoil and make shooting much more enjoyable. As far as guns, if you want an over/under - look for a good used Ruger Red Label. Can be found for $700-$900 if you look. Don't pay over $900, and 12's are worth less than 20's. In a semi-auto, you can find a Remington 1100 12 or 20 any day for $450-650 depending on the condition of the gun (an in my option are the best value out there). I also personally really like Beretta's and you can find an older AL390 for that $500-$650 range. There are a lot of choices, and yes Brownings are nice (I have a few), but in your price range there isn't much from them. My two cents.

Yeah, it wouldn't just be for Prairie Dogs. I want it for paper punching out as far as I can reasonably go, and I just like the looks of it. This will be my wanna-be sniper rifle for fun. I have been considering building a custom gun for some time, but this gives me custom accuracy with no wait and even less agonizing over what parts I want to use. The 308 is just a nice all around caliber that will let me do a lot. I have other calibers for Deer and larger game. I was more curious if anyone had shot one and didn't like it for some reason. I expect I will just order one soon, but figured it never hurts to ask. Thanks for the responses.

I am considering buying a new SAKO TRG for long range shooting and just some plain old fun. I am considering going to South Dakota for a Prairie Dog Shoot and want to be able to reach out past my 22-250 range. I have read really good things about them, but wondered if anyone had any first hand experience with one before I plunk down that kind money on a rifle in addition to a very expensive scope to put on it. Any comments would be appreciated.

I have a 223, 22-250, and 204. All three are unique in their own way. I like to 204 for small varmints, and just the sheer speed. I like the 223 for all around use and easy access to ammo, but my favorite is my 22-250 (Remington 40-XB). It is a little more expensive to shoot, but if you reload, that shouldn't be a big issue. It shoots a little faster and flatter than a 223 at longer distances, which gives it more ballistic energy. If you want the cheapest to shoot and easiest access to ammo, 223 all the way. If you want highest ballistic energy at distances, then 22-250. If you want super high speed, flat trajectories, then 204. I don't think any of them will vaporize a coyote with the right bullet. In my opinion, any 22 is too small to deer hunt with to be humane, but that is my opinion. Both of those options are fine. Savages aren't pretty, but the shoot great. A 700 is a 700. I would also consider the Browning x-bolt.

Never really thought about it. Let's see.... CZ 452 Trainer Kimber 82G #1 Kimber 82G #2 Winchester 52C BRNO #4 10/22 Deluxe Stainless 10/22 Blued Ruger MarkIII Hunter Sig 556 Remington 40XB 22-250 Mini-14 Cooper M22 Montana Varminter 223 Remington Fieldmaster 13...I guess I need at least one more to get off that 13 number. Always need a good excuse to by a gun!

There were lots of people. Hotter than crap in the building ,but seemed to be more guns walking around than usual. Same vendors for the most part.

I didn't say you had to attend Arlington or be Commander in Chief. I asked how many have ever attended a ceremony. If you believe it's less important for you to go show your respect because you're not the president, I made my case. He is going to a ceremony at a cemetery in Illinois and Biden is going to Arlington. If he was going to Hooters and hanging out having wings while all of this was going on, I might buy some of this, but that's not the case. I bet if your family member who was a veteran was laid to rest at the cemetery where he is going, it wouldn't be as big of deal.

Really? He is the anti-christ because of this. Do some research, find out how many other presidents attended Arlington every year. And you really think he has no interest in the well being of the military. Give me a break. I may not agree with all of his policies, but as some of the others have said, work on doing something about it. Talk is cheap. Oh yeah, I wonder how many who have responded to this thread have ever been to a Ceremony on Memorial Day. How many go every year. I have, but I don't go every year and I 100% support this country and our troops. President or not, you have no more excuses than he does. I'm sick of the hypocracry from everyone! (that includes Democrats, Republicans, or any other 'ats, 'ans or any other political group you want). What are you doing Monday???

+1 for RIG.

In my experience as an HCP holder, I have both carried open and concealed and didn't have one person look at me sideways, crossways, or any other way when I was open carrying. I have one theory on why. Profiling. If you don't look dangerous, most people won't think your dangerous. I have open carried in Target, Walmart, Cracker Barrell and many other places that allowed it and didn't feel out of place or profiled. My friends say it is because I look like a cop and carry myself like it isn't a big deal. The gun is a natural part of my outfit, so I don't walk around checking it all of the time. I think it comes down to not making a big deal out of it and looking like you have done it before. I think some people that open carry do so with a mentality of look at me. You can tell them a mile away (although I can't say I see a lot of people doing it). I agree, open carry isn't appropriate in all cases, and common sense should apply. I get the whole it's my right no matter what argument, and agree, but in reality, we profile, and people make a decision based on what you look like. Right or wrong, it's the way it works. I say if you don't feel comfortable open carrying around your house and yard, there is no way you will ever feel comfortable open carrying in public. If you don't feel comfortable, you shouldn't be open carrying, or even concealed carrying for that matter. If your neighbors don't like it, tough. It's your property and I don't see anything wrong with making a subtle statement about being armed. I don't buy into the argument that it advertises you have guns. All it means is you have one gun, and that is probably enough to keep most people from attempting anything stupid. My two cents.

To the original question, there are a lot of manufacturers that produce AR-15 rifles, and as you can tell there are a lot of opinions, and this is just mine. Assuming this isn't specifically for hunting (if it is I would by a custom upper), and I was to buy one and only one AR-15, it would be a Colt Match Target HBAR. It can be found for $1000 (Yes, you may have to look around a bit) and 1 month from now or 5 years from now, it is still going to be worth at least $1000. You don't have to worry about quality, parts, or functionality. If you just want something to that looks like an AR-15, then there are ton of products out there. As with every gun, ask yourself what you (or your son in this case) wants to do with it and based on your budget, find what fits the bill. As always, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

He could have, but after spending that kind of money, I would expect a usable trigger. It wasn't even close. Also makes me wonder what other shortcuts may have been made. That may just be me. I don't expect a match trigger in what is essentially a hunting rifle, but I do expect a usable one.

A buddy if mine had one and sold it not long after he got it. It literally had the worst trigger I have ever used and that's not an exageration. I would check the pull on one before I bought it. It was long, dragged, jumped, and never broke consistently. It had terrible groups as well, but I will chalk that down to the trigger. I would personally look at alternatives.

Diddo. Have one on my 10/22 and it works just fine. Not too big either.

I would spend the money on a rifled barrel and stick with Sabot's. Then just change back to the factory barrel for target shooting. No sense in messing up the chokes, even if on accident.

That's where I guess we are all different. I like the heavy pull on my truck gun (Sig SP2022) because in the event you have to use it, you know that you meant to pull the trigger the first time. After the first pull, it's very short. God forbid I ever have to use it, I don't want it to go off and not really mean it to.

It can be concealed, but it isn't something I would consider small. I bought mine for a truck gun although I do have a holster for it and have worn it concealed, but not very often. Concealment is such a personal feel that I would not want to say if it would work for you, although people carry larger guns every day.. I can say that the gun is a great shooter.

Sounds like the XD may be similar to the SP2022. The sig may be a little bigger, but not a whole lot. I wouldn't consider it a pocket gun, but I love mine for carrying in my truck. It is a great shooting gun. It is polymer, DA/SA, with a decocking lever. The price is right at $439 for a Sig.

I don't have one, but but one of my best friends does and I have shot probably 100 rounds through it. I can't say that I could recommend it. At least once out of every 20 rounds the magazine pops out. He has three magazines and only one doesn't do it regularly. I think it partially has to do with the location of the magazine release, but it does it constantly. I won't say they all do this, but on this particular one, it does it a lot. I also agree with the above that it is probably not a pocket pistol. In the end, I wouldn't trust my life with it. I think there are probably better options in my opinion.

I went as well. As they said it was packed. As always, some guns really high and there were a few good deals to be had. I expect it will be packed tomorrow as well being the first show of the year around here. No jerky, but some rhinestone belts!!!

Call the Saddle Shop in Triune. I think it is around $30.

I have a P229 Elite Stainless with the rosewood grips and love it. The SRT is excellent and can't say that the adjustable sights have bothered me at all, but I suppose to each is own. Wouldn't recommend it for everyday carry as it is a bit big, but great shooter.

In a nutshell Pretty = No (or at least not most of them) Finish quality = Good in most cases (some are less polished than others) Accuracy = Very Good to Excellent Accutrigger = Very Good in my opinion Value for the money = Excellent

+1 - Blue Wonder is great for this exact pupose.