Capbyrd

When all this started back in 2014, HK Parts sent out a letter saying that this would not affect the company and everything would be business as usual. So don't worry, nothing changed.

I didn't think it was necessary to drag that argument over into this thread too. But as for the video here, you should watch it. I watched a few hours ago so I could be wrong, but he wasn't cutting it that close. As a guy who rides, I can tell you that I leave myself plenty of room but from watching those same lane changes from a car's point of view, it looks closer than it is. There are a lot of guys that ride like idiots but that isn't exclusive to bikes. Plenty of idiots in cars too. When I ride, I'm very mindful of laws and I try my best to never speed and I don't lane split or use the shoulder, but there have been times when it was simply not safe for me to do so. I was almost hit by a car doing 60 because I was at the end of a traffic jam on the interstate. I got very lucky. I've sat in 90+ degree weather on the interstate in stand still traffic on an air cooled bike. I got burns on my legs and was lucky I didn't damage my engine. If it was legal, I would have lane split or used the shoulder to get off the interstate and take a route that would have let air move over the engine. In the case of the guy in the video, I don't think he was doing anything major, I think its more likely that riding that way just gave them the excuse they needed to pull the guy over. At least around Memphis, bikers are targeted because a lot of them don't have M endorsements or tags, or both. Cops look for any reason to pull them over hoping that they will score a guy with a warrant or meet their quota of income for the month.

Sadly, that isn't always the case (working out fine), but it does lessen the chances of a bad incident.

Love bacon. But never really understood drinking. I don't really get anything out of it and it's way more expensive than the nectar that is sweet tea. I know we've talked about legalizing weed in this thread but I've never even tried it. My vices are usually something that has to do with cars, computers, guns or lego. Drinking and smoking just weren't for me.

In my world, everything that doesn't affect another person is legal, so although I don't partake, I'll raise my sweet tea and enjoy the fellowship.

Because it's the law is not a valid reason. Y'all like to use sheeple or sheep to refer to people that want more gun control but look at you. You are using "because its the law" as an argument for why something is bad.

No the community is not. There is no victim. How was the community harmed? You said it yourself, no traffic and a cop that merely saw me. No one has been harmed in any way.

No the community is not. There is no victim. How was the community harmed? You said it yourself, no traffic and a cop that merely saw me. No one has been harmed in any way.

YOU FINALLY GET IT!!!! I think that a few of us aren't merely trying to argue that anything shouldn't be illegal, but are trying to make people think about what starts the interaction to begin with and is that thing so egregious that it justifies taking someone's life to enforce it?

and again, nazis were employed to kill jews and black people, they were just doing their job. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT!!!!

And we just keep going in circles. Again, the police knew he was felon just by looking at him? And taking it back further, being a felon and having a gun SHOULD NOT be a crime, just like weed. None of that matters. We won't ever get anywhere because y'all think the way you have been conditioned to think and we think very differently.

You did it on purpose.

You are making me regret my choices.

I gave mine to a friend. I want it back.

And that is where E would chime in and tell you how simply being a police officer has made you the bad guy. I'm not on the same level that he is, but I do think it is the responsibility of every officer, just as it is the responsibility of every of every one of us to decide, is what that person doing so egregious that it warrants the use of force up to and including taking that person's life? If you wouldn't say yes as a regular person, why are you okay with giving that power to the state's enforcers? There is no crime until after it is been committed. Otherwise, we end up living in the minority report world where just thinking it makes you a criminal.

See, still don't get it. I'm not arguing law. I'm arguing morality. And morally, whether it is legal or not, has no bearing.

So still not getting it. It's a shame that you, and others like you, will just blindly give your right to life away like that.

Just from pictures, I'd guess that this will suffer from the same thumb complaints that the full size did. I am very curious if the trigger is any better.

You still aren't understanding the argument. The point is, why are we as a society, giving anyone the right to enforce laws by force up to and including the taking of life, where there is no victim other than the state. The state CANNOT be a victim. And if there is no victim, there is no crime. Forget the weed. Make it a seatbelt violation or going two miles an hour over the speed limit. It doesn't matter what the "crime" was, because our argument is that there wasn't an actual crime to begin with.

I'll eat my words. But then also, the next two weeks terrify me.

So when they make guns illegal, you're just going to turn them all in right? And the cops aren't bad guys, they're just doing their job.

And that in and of itself is a problem. I'd rather a guy be smoking weed and have a gun than any number of prescription drugs and have a gun. But that aint illegal. And I'm not going to just take a cop's word for it. Probable cause is a joke and they have probable cause for EVERYTHING. Literally saying I smelled weed gives them a pass to do ANYTHING. I've been pulled over for matching a description so many times. They are just looking for a reason to hurt someone, physically or otherwise. I've also been pulled over for being fat. I'm not quite where ChuckTShoes is at on cops, but every story that comes out makes me angrier and angrier.

Thats understandable. I don't like to think of myself as a hoarder. My goal is to one day have about 10,000 rounds of any caliber ready to go. I have about 7k of various 22. 3k of 9mm and a lot less in my rifle calibers. I just buy what I can when I can knowing one day it won't be available and I'll still be able to take my usual range trips.

So this part is basically a documentary?

I've thought about it. But I'm not a great shooter and adding speed doesn't help. I shoot to relax and putting a timer on it would kill that. I raced a lot and almost made myself hate driving. I get too wrapped up in how much I suck.