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July 14, 2009 *CHATTANOOGA AREA* Restaurant Meet Thread
mousegunner replied to TGO David's topic in Events and Gatherings
I'd like to meet everyone. The TN Firearms Association used to meet in the little conference room in the rear of the Ryan's Steak House in Hixson, very near Northgate Mall. The food is typical Ryans, and the conference room would give a bit of privacy. -
You might try Tick Bite Supply... SKS Parts and Accessories I found it with Google....never bought anything from them.
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A friend of mine went to renew his hcp a few days ago at the local Chattanooga highway patrol office. The person taking his picture told him to try to look like Clint Eastwood and instead of saying "cheese" say: "Go ahead punk, make my day!" I like that!
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I have purchased several guns from Carter, and always been well treated. He has a good selection, and fair prices. I DO miss Darr's though, as it was closer to home, and he had some mil-surps out that I could handle to my heart's content.
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I dropped in for a few minutes on Monday (June 8). They have a good selection of Kimber, Taurus, GLOCK and other handguns, and they are doing deals on the Taurus guns.
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I found this photo somewhere, and it exemplifies the joy of shooting...Thought you all might like to see it...
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The WalMart clerk at Hixson (Chattanooga) told me it was the pawn shop guys who were coming in and snatching up the ammo. Especially before the six box limit.
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Chattanooga area, in Hixson.....I stopped in today to see their firearms selection. Quite a few used revolvers of various calibers, one ugly Mosin, a few other milsurp rifles, some shotguns and semi-auto deer Remingtons, and a bunch of hi-point pistols. Also, some el cheapo Jennings 22s and 380s. Fun stuff!
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Hey, I like it too. Very purty!
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I'm not a lawyer or any kind of expert, but I suspect that if there is a law it has to do with who may BUY a gun, not who may OWN a gun. Also, you should thank God for your wife. I suggest your let your wife decide if you are ready to have a gun in your possession, at least for the next year or two. Go with her decision, and don't give her a hard time if she tells you to leave your gun in some one else's care for another year or two.
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Well, congrats. They are both no doubt wonderful guns!
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I believe the modification to a GLOCK style safety in the trigger was a good move. Looks like a nice gun to me, too, but I've never held one in my hand. My Ruger p95dc was excellent and indestructible.
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Georgia has more places off limits to bearing arms than California May 30, 10:25 AM · 10 comments .iconpanel a { text-decoration:none; color:#006699}; .iconpanel a:hover { text-decoration:none; color:#006699} 10 comments ShareThis Feed Georgia or California: Which place has more off limits locations to bearing, i.e., actually carrying, a firearm. California has more than 50,000 people with firearms licences. Oleg Volk, A Human Right California is a "may issue" state. But, if you are one of the more than 50,000 people who have a firearms license in California, are you better off than a Georgian? Prior to July of 2008, the members of GeorgiaCarry.Org, Inc. contended that Georgia had more places off limits to the bearing of arms than any state in the nation. Now, in 2009, Georgia still has more places off limits than California. Most people assume California is highly restrictive of the right to bear arms and that Georgia is a “gun friendly state.†Are these twin assumptions justified? Let us examine California’s off limits list in detail and compare it to Georgia’s list. California Law - Public Buildings and Meetings Legal California Penal Code Section 171b bans the carry of firearms to public meetings and public buildings, but it exempts “[a] person holding a valid license to carry the firearm pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4.†See 171b((3). Therefore, this law does not apply to a person holding a firearms license at all, meaning it is legal to carry a firearm to a “public meeting†in California. Georgia Law - Crime! This is a crime in Georgia. See O.C.G.A. § 16-11-127, the public gathering law, which places all publicly owned buildings off limits, even the bathrooms at interstate rest stops. Case law in Georgia has held that the parking lots of public gatherings are themselves public gatherings and thus off limits, as well as parking lots on neighboring properties within 200 yards of public gatherings. California Law - State Capitol Legal California Penal Section 171c makes it a crime to carry a firearm into the State Capitol Building in Sacramento (along with committee meeting rooms, legislative offices, and the Governor’s office), but, again, excepts a “person holding a valid license to carry the firearm pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4.†In other words, again, this is no crime in California if you hold a firearms license. Georgia Law - Crime! Carrying a firearm into the State Capitol Building in Atlanta is a crime two different ways in Georgia. See O.C.G.A. §§ 16-11-127 and 16-11-34.1. Although most Georgia legislators park in the parking lot with pistols in their cars, the parking lot of a public gathering has been held to be a public gathering by the Georgia appellate courts. California Law - Governor’s Mansion Legal California Penal Section 171d makes it a crime to carry a firearm into the Governor’s Mansion in Sacramento, unless, again, you have a license (or if you are a member of the Governor’s family or a police officer). In other words, this is not a crime in California. Georgia Law - Crime! This is, of course, a crime in Georgia, as the building is publicly owned. See O.C.G.A. § 16-11-127. California - Schools Legal Well, surely California places its schools off limits, right? Wrong. Not only are license holders not committing a crime by carrying at colleges and universities, but California follows the example of the federal Gun Free School Zones Act and completely exempts people holding a firearms license, even for carrying to public kindergarten through 12th grade schools. Ironically, it is illegal to have ammunition on school grounds in California, unless, of course, you have a firearms license. Penal Code 12316©. In California, Penal Code Section 626.9, the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1995, makes it illegal to carry a firearm at a school and lists out all of the terrible penalties associated with the crime, but it also lists exemptions, such as police officers, and, there it is again, license holders. See 626.9(l). Just to make it clear, California is talking about public or private k-12. See 626.9(e)(1). It is also talking about Universities. 626.9(h) and (i). Georgia Law - Crime! Georgia makes this a felony (which means the loss of right to vote and keep and bear arms for life), and Georgia does not limit this to public schools or even elementary and secondary schools. In Georgia, it is a felony even for 60 year old graduate students, even with a firearms license, and even in a glovebox in the parking lot. Georgia’s law even applies to adult technical and vocational schools. If you want to take a welding class (to develop the skills needed in restoring your 1966 GTO), you would be completely disarmed, even while driving to and from class, under pain of a felony prosecution with 10 years in prison and a $15,000 fine. The same applies to visitors at schools in Georgia. Public Gatherings In the interest of making the comparison more complete, it is imperative to point out that Georgia has a great many other restrictions California has never seen fit to adopt. For example, Georgia makes it a crime to bear arms to or while at any place that serves alcohol other than a restaurant, a place of worship, a sporting event, and at undefined "public gatherings" generally, including the parking lots and even parking up to 200 yards away off of the premises. No other state in the nation criminalizes carry at “public gatherings†generally. California does not criminalize carry at any of these places. Airports Georgia attempted to decriminalize the carry of firearms on mass transit, including planes, trains, and buses, such as MARTA by changing the public gathering law to override the mass transit law that banned firearms in the buildings, parking lots, and even the bus stops and a “reasonable distance adjacent†to the bus stops, whatever that means. While the change appears to have been successful for the most part, the City of Atlanta announced a ban on firearms in its airport. A federal court in Atlanta and the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals refused GeorgiaCarry.Org's attempt to enjoin Atlanta's ban. See court rules that legislator did not mean what he said. A violation of this Georgia law is a felony with a penalty of 20 years in prison and a $15,000 fine. California has no restrictions on bearing arms in its airports. Miscellaneous As of this writing, Georgia also criminalizes bearing arms at in Public Fishing Areas. Although one can carry firearms in buildings in State Parks, it is illegal to use the restroom in city and county parks while armed, so visitors must "hold it" in the parks or pee outside. Combining this restriction with the interstate rest stops, we have to wonder what it is that the Georgia General Assembly has against people who are bearing arms using the restroom. Maybe Georgia could at least have segregated "armed and "unarmed" restrooms where it is legal for those with a firearms license to visit the facilites. Conclusion In sum, California, the state assumed to restrict and burden the right to bear arms, permits the bearing of arms in elementary schools, colleges, the State Capitol Building, the Governor’s Mansion, town hall, police stations, libraries, and in airports. Georgia, the state assumed to permit the free exercise of the right to bear arms, criminalizes the bearing of arms in all of these locations, in some cases imposing a felony charge, even if the person bearing a pistol has a firearms license issued pursuant to Georgia law. Hopefully, this short article has challenged your assumptions regarding the right to bear arms in Georgia and in California. In addition, by providing the actual Code Sections, it is hoped that this article will provide you with some of the intellectual ammunition you need to return Georgia’s right to bear arms to an actual “right,†rather than an overburdened “privilege.†Ed Stone is the President of GeorgiaCarry.org, Inc. He is a practicing attorney and a former police officer, and he believes that “bear†means “carry.â€
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Times Free Press Clergy nonsense
mousegunner replied to mousegunner's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
My letter to the editor was published in the Chattanooga Times Free Press today, June 3, 2009. If we all do our little bit to support gun rights, it has a cumulative impact. -
I think $300 to $325 for your Ruger LCP package.
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There was a headline article today in the Chattanooga Times Free Press (June 1, 2009) stating that local clergy favor Gov. Bredeson's veto, because "guns and alcohol don't mix." Apparently the reporter interviewed a half-dozen pastors who agree with the veto, and NONE who disagreed. They all said something like: "I'm all for the 2nd amendment, but guns and alcohol don't mix!" Well, who wants to mix guns and alcohol??? I'm chagrined that clergy, who are supposed to be educated and on the ball, are so ill informed about what the bill is actually about! I'm a pastor, and I wish they had interviewed me too, for the article. I think Gov. Bredeson's veto is pretty bad, and I hope it will be overturned. I'm grateful for my Representative Floyd who has stated he will vote to over-rule the veto. It's not about guns in bars, it's about having your gun with you in good restaurants that also happen to serve a beer or glass of wine with your meal. It's not about drinking and gun play and "saloons!" Good grief! The only saloons I know anything about are on Gunsmoke re-runs!
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Hey, that Hi-Point looks kind of familiar! But as to the .22 Jennings, get one and try it out. I read on the web that they prefer minimag rounds. I think they still sell for under $100 at the ValuPawn pawn shop on Hwy 153 in Hixson.
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Poll concerning Governor's Bredesen's Veto
mousegunner replied to a topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
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This link may be helpful.... Handgun Carry Permits
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The Taurus 24/7, the Ruger P95 and the SW9VE, are all equally good guns. The toughest trigger is the SW9VE, but other than that it is about the same as a GLOCK. I don't know anything about the Cougar or the Bersa.
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Taurus 24/7 Pro Ruger P95 Stoeger Cougar S&W 9VE Bersa Thunder 9
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It's not the caliber, it's the placement. A .22 well placed will stop someone quicker than a .45 not well placed. And a little .22 in your pocket is invisible until needed. On the other hand, a Kel-Tec p3at or Ruger LCP in .380 would be just as small as a .22, and probably be a bit more effective. On the third hand you can practice all day long with .22 ammo, and .380 is pretty pricey!
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Taurus makes a Beretta knock off, which some say is better than the Beretta. Here's a review link: Genitron.com - Review: Taurus PT-22, Phoenix Arms HP22 and Walther P22
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We moved to Chattanooga from Charlotte, and have been here for twenty years. Lord willing, we will spend the rest of our lives here. It's a nice town to live in. About 200,000, but with a small town feel. Everywhere we go, we see people we know. And if you get to talking with strangers, you find that you have friends in common. A free shooting range nearby, too! (Prentice Cooper)
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You have the only one!