mousegunner

Yoicks, I passed 666 soooo fast! Guess I'm not the anti-christ!

Everyone of us has done stupid things; and we will all do some more stupid things before we die. That's just one of the realities of life. Keeps us humble, I guess.

Man the lifeboats!

Stop this thread!

Just say NO!

What with the big gun show meeting often at Camp Jordan there most be some monied people in ER who will support carry in parks. Now that ER and RB are onboard, I have hopes Walden will do the same.

Personally, I wouldn't feel bad about paying $300 for either gun. I just bought a Sigma from a fellow board member (w 4 mags and some ammo, too) for $300, and I think I got a super deal. Folks, the days of inexpensive firearms are coming to an end soon. Get 'em while you can!

Silversfirearms is excellent, but hard to find.... Silvers Firearms and I like Carters in Harrison (some here don't care for the boss, but he has always treated me right, and he has a fair selection of Kimber, GLOCK and Taurus, and evil black rifles.)

I had a tapco stock, and my sks just wouldn't function with the 20 round tapco mags. It works perfectly with the 10 round original..Anyway, good buy and contrats!

How to advance the 2nd Amendment cause in the USA... 1. Be a responsible gun owner, not a "gun nut." 2. Write letters to the editor. 3. Write your local gov officials. 4. Write your Congress critters. 5. Give money to NRA, GOA, JPFO, TFA, the TGO Board 6. Most important: get a young person enthused about shooting, and teach them the importance of the Bill of Rights. You all may think of other things we could all be doing.

Thanks for the constructive criticism. Too late now, though, as I mailed the letters yesterday!

Taurus PT145 Mil Pro, extreeeemly nice to hold!

I had a C9 and put Hogue grips on it, and liked it a lot. It was quite accurate, too. Go Hi-Point!

Just say NO! Just Say No! Chuck Hawks

I sent the following to the Walden Town Council. Walden is on the North edge of Signal Mountain, near Chattanooga... July 22, 2009 Re: “Guns in Parks†To: The Walden Town Council First, let me express to you all a big “Thank you!†for all you have done and are doing for the town of Walden. You are selfless civil servants, giving your time and hard work to keeping Walden a wonderful place to live, and I appreciate all of you very much. I and my family have lived here for twenty years, and Walden is a little piece of Heaven! Second, please allow me a few minutes of your time to express my opinion about the “Guns in Parks†resolution vote coming up soon. I note from reading the paper that Signal Mountain has opted to forbid citizens with State permits to carry in Signal Mountain parks. But I see that Red Bank has voted AGAINST a similar resolution. I would like to respectfully ask you all to follow Red Bank’s example. I have been a firearms enthusiast for a good number of years, and a permitted handgun carrier for the past five years. Did you know that handgun permit holders must attend a class in Tennessee handgun law, and must take training in how to safely fire their handguns? We also are fingerprinted, and our backgrounds are thoroughly examined by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. We are law-abiding responsible people, not careless hooligans, as you might think from some of the editorials we read in the paper. In fact, a good number of Wayside church members are also people with handgun carry permits, and serve as Deacons and Elders. When the criminally insane decide to “go out with a bang,†they choose to do their evil deed in a place where people congregate in large numbers, AND in a place where good citizens are rendered defenseless by anti-gun regulations. They choose government office buildings, schools full of children, churches, shopping malls, and even parks. Why? Because there is no one there with a firearm who could oppose them and stop them in their wickedness. Several times each year we read in the newspaper about some such event. As long as we created “gun-free zones,†criminals will choose those places where they can kill without opposition. Then when the police do show up, they commit suicide. I would like to ask you to follow the example of Red Bank, and not that of Signal Mountain, for several reasons: 1) According to the online data base of the TBI, there are eight registered sex offenders living in Walden and Signal Mountain. If I were a mother or father (or grandparent) with children, playing in the park, I would like to know that I might be able to have my handgun in my purse or pocket (assuming I have been officially licensed by the State) to protect my children and myself from a criminal who might be especially drawn to a park full of children. 2) I have NEVER heard of a man or woman with a TN permit doing a crime with his/her pistol, or shooting an innocent bystander accidentally. But I HAVE read of many cases in which a permitted gun holder has actually stopped crimes and saved lives. The mass media doesn’t publicize these stories, but they are true and common. 3) Some people say: It could never happen HERE. Walden is such a nice peaceful place, no evil doer will ever come here and try to shoot an innocent person. Let me remind you that it just recently happened to a chiropractor in Signal Mountain, in his office. It was God’s grace that he was not killed by his estranged wife who was mentally deranged, and who believed that demons were in her husband, which had to be let out by “holes,†which she proceded to make with her handgun. (Crazy stuff, but that was in the news!) 4) Please don’t do something just because Signal Mountain does it. I’m often amazed at what the Signal Mountain Town Council comes up with, and their decisions are not always really for the good of our larger community. They have their own reasons for what they do. 5) I have great respect for the Law Enforcement Officers in our area. But, the police can’t be everywhere. When police cannot be present to prevent crime, citizens must be able to protect and defend themselves. Does it make sense to say to Walden citizens, “All over Walden you can carry your gun, if you have a permit from TN. But when you come into our parks, you must render yourself and your children defenseless.†Thank you for your time and consideration! Dr. Marshall C. St. John, Pastor Wayside Presbyterian Church

The following essay was presented on the AR15.com discussion forum as a response to the question "Why do you need an AK-47?" The person asking the question was a British Subject not familiar with the purpose behind our Second Amendment. While reading this essay, most folks realize that, throughout the entire writing, you can replace the term "AK-47" with "Assault Rifle," "AR15," "handgun," or even "musket." Why do I need an AK-47? by "Jack 99" About 230 years ago, some incredibly gifted, wealthy, slave-owning, white guys looked at Western Civilization and undertook what is undoubtedly the most radical, profound political revolution ever conceived. Despite what the history books say, it really wasn't about taxes, or troops in people's homes, or the price of tea or any of that crap. These men were British subjects, but taxes were lower in the colonies than in Britain at the time of the Revolution, there was unprecedented freedom, particularly on the frontier, and these guys were generally the wealthy elite who could have been colonial governors if they had chosen to. They could have afforded to drink tea until they pissed pure caffeine. Another misconception was that it was a popular revolution. I don't remember who said it, but one of those old dead white guys said that the colonists were divided roughly into thirds: one third loyalist, one third ambivalent, and one third revolutionary (sound familiar?). It took years of coercion and propaganda to motivate the general public to take up arms against the Brits. What was our Revolution all about then? These guys realized, 2000 miles from their ruling country, that they had an unprecedented opportunity to revolt and form a radical new self-government, where political power was vested in the People themselves, not in a ruling class. It was an ideological revolution which is still radical today, with the Constitution as the Blueprint for Freedom. In this system, individual liberty is the beginning and end of all government activity. That is to say, government powers are only supposed to extend so far, and only with the permission of the governed. Ideally, where my rights as a citizen begin, the powers of government come to an abrupt halt. Conversely, the primary function of government is to guarantee my liberties, hence the Bill of Rights. So what we have is an incredibly radical new power structure, one not truly duplicated anywhere else in the world. So how does this explain why I need an AK 47 assault rifle? What the founding fathers knew, and so many of the "People" have forgotten (or never learned), is that Power is a zero sum game. If I have it, the government doesn't, and vice versa. Even many pro-gunners miss the point and we allow ourselves to be distracted with "rights" issues, that, while they exist, aren't specifically addressed by the Constitution (right to hunt, right to self-defense, etc.) The Constitution, the Blueprint for Freedom, and the Bill of Rights, the non-expiring guarantee of liberty, are about one thing: Power. So don't get confused by other issues here. If this is a country where Power is truly vested in the People, and the government is LIMITED by the Constitution, then my ownership of an AK 47 is off limits to the government. The Second Amendment guarantees my Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and the Constitution limits the government to very specific, narrow activities which do not include regulating guns. So, not only is this right specifically reserved to the People (or, even with a loose interpretation, the states), it also falls outside of the boundaries outlined in the Constitution for the Federal Govt. Its a double whammy. Why is it so important to us? Some people fear a tyrannical government taking over (you think they're "paranoid", despite so many historical lessons with which I could fill several books; but that's another thread). But most, I believe, are more like me. We still believe in the Revolution and its ideals. We ARE Revolutionaries. Power is vested in ME, as a citizen, and not in the government. It cannot be taken without my permission, which I do not give. Remember, its a zero sum game, so if the government can infringe those liberties, they really don't exist at all, except in theory. Well, I don't want theoretical freedom. I want the real stuff. So, some argue, we still have freedom of the press and the rest of it, why the big deal over guns? Well, the Bill of Rights is not a buffet, we don't get to pick and choose. I don't like neo-Socialist rhetoric, but I'm not calling for the abolishment of free speech, am I? Because I know that the First Amendment is also about Power - the Power of information (way deadlier than guns, in the right hands, by the way. Case in point, Hitler, whose propaganda machine convinced the Germans to commit unthinkable atrocities; I digress). Many of us here in the U.S. see the slow, steady, reversal of our Power structure. Our rights are becoming more "theoretical" all the time. Anyone see the Dateline NBC story on the Louisiana police who are confiscating cars and money from out of state motorists, without a trial (due process) and are not even charging them with a crime or arresting them? How about the IRS, which in case you aren't familiar (not being a US citizen and all), has the power to confiscate just about anything you own with the wave of a bureaucrat's pen. Both of these are examples of activities strictly forbidden by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, yet it happens all the time and there are many more examples beyond these. So you see, it's not just the Second Amendment where the reversal of Power is evident. Anymore, it seems that the Constitution is just a shell and government doesn't exist for the people, rather the people (taxpayers) exist for the government. Having never been an American, that's a subtle distinction you may miss, but it's the whole ball of wax to us. So, like the colonists at Lexington and Concord (read my last thread for a little history), this is the issue where we choose to make our stand. Not over taxes, which are atrocious, or unreasonable search and seizure, which is rampant, or the separation of powers (who said Clinton could declare war all by himself, anyway?) or any of that other stuff, but over my AK 47. Why? Because like our forefathers (80 civilians on a bridge against 1800 regular troops; how committed were they?), we realize it's the foundation of Real Power. Without a weapon capable of providing adequate resistance to overthrow an unjust, unConstitutional government, the rest of those rights truly are hollow, no longer belong to the people, and can be rescinded at any time by the government (many feel we're already past that point). And then they're not rights, they're privileges. Once again, a subtle difference sure to escape you, given your conditioning. If the government can take my AK 47, or restrict the amount of ammunition it holds, or restrict further purchases of "Assault Weapons" then the revolution is dead and so are the ideals countless thousands have died for. There's a reason for the Second Amendment and gun ownership (ESPECIALLY assault rifles), a reason those colonists on that bridge understood; its the last of my rights to go. That's why I need an AK 47 assault rifle.

Well, sure, I NEED all my guns because....well....hmmmm....I'm sure I can think of a reason eventually! The fact is: sometimes I find it hard to live by my own good advice!

Something like this got tried before, in the 1860's, and brought on the War of Yankee Aggression. The FEDS will maintain the Union, no matter what the cost. I believe if we push it, the same thing will happen again, just for different issues. And maybe that is OK.

Who cares what mousegunner thinks, right? Sure! But I will spout off anyway....just because I feel like it... The Bible says that "the love of money is the root of all evil." I believe the Bible is right. Look around the world at all the political problems, economic problems, morality problems, family problems, and so on. Nearly always, the love of money is at the root of what has gone wrong. Money itself is not evil. Money is like a power saw. You can use it well, and build great things. Or you can use it carelessly, and get damaged. The following statements are things I have learned about money and wealth over my six decades of life. 1. I cannot predict the ups and downs of the stock market. It makes little sense to me. 2. In a similar vein, if you need your money for retirement in the next five years, get it out of the stock market, and keep in in a savings account. You may miss a large bonanza, true. On the other hand, you risk losing 3/4 of all you have in the market. 3. I heard this about the stock market and I think it is true: Bears make money; Bulls make money; Pigs get slaughtered. 4. Everyone should have an emergency fund saved up for a rainy day. Enough money to carry you through for six months is good. Enough in savings for a year would be better. 5. You should not be stingy with your money. If a needy person asks for help, give it. 6. Don't loan money to people in need. Give it, or don't give it, but don't loan it. This holds true ESPECIALLY for your family members. 7. Don't spend more money than you earn, and you will come out OK. 8. It's OK to have credit cards. BUT, always pay them off before they come due in 28 days. 9. Don't buy stuff you don't need. 10. Don't buy luxury items. Don't buy a $500 dollar suit, if you can get a good one at WalMart for $100. Don't buy a $20 tie, if you can get a nice one at the Good Will store for $2.00. Don't buy genuine Oreo cookies if you can get the "store-brand" cookie for half the price. 11. If you need more income, get a second job. Don't lie around watching TV. Work 80 hours a week instead of 40. 12. Don't pretend to be richer than you are to impress ANYONE. 13. Money is hard to save up, and easy to spend. Money makes itself wings, and flies away; unless you tie it down. 14. Get rich quick schemes are bogus. Those who get ahead in life are those who are steady workers, and steady savers. 15. You make money in business, and you preserve money in real-estate. 16. Remember, you can't take it with you. "What will it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet lose his own soul." 17. Make a will, and make it very specific; or your children will fight with each other over what you leave behind. 18. Speaking of leaving money after you die...if you have a lot of money, don't leave it all to your children. Leave it to some charities who will use your money to do good things for lots of people. 19. Don't think you need to live in a mansion, or drive a fancy car. A reasonably nice house is OK. And a Ford will get you there just as well as a Mercedes. 20. If there is something you want to do with your life, use your money to do it before you get too old and feeble. 21. Quit smoking and drinking in excess...you might as well flush the money down the toilet.

I had an old beat up H&R .22 revolver five years ago, and traded it off for several hundred rounds of .380 ammo. That's the only revolver I've ever had. I have a good number of semi-auto pistols. I think I need at least one revolver, don't you?

All over TN, in our towns and cities, knee-jerk Liberalism is in full swing.

We need to add "eating at Ruby Tuesday" to the WalMart walk, for all who get a permit.

I dropped into Signal Mountain WalMart at 8 AM July 14 (Restaurant liberation day), and they had tons of 9mm, 40SW and .45, also Winchester 7.62x39 etc etc etc.

It is politics, pure and simple. The average Joe and Jane perceive guns as evil per se, especially the soccer-mom folks, of which there are MANY on Signal Mtn. The politicians know that. They will NOT offend the soccer-moms. I try not to offend them either. They are a force to be reckoned with.

That's a real bargain, these days. I note also you can only buy 2 boxes at a time. I tried for 4, and it bumped me down to 2.