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RealClearPolitics - Video - Matthews Previews "New Right" As "Scary" Gun-Toting, Anti-Government Types

"The scary party of this is do they really believe in self-government in the end, or is the government the enemy?," NBC's Chris Matthews asks.

"A lot of people on the right believe the government has replaced the British as the operating force in the country," he declared."

"It's serious business. Some have the guns, some don't. Some have the tea party aspect, but it's always that flag 'don't tread on me.' They believe Washington is London and the scary part is do they really believe in self-government in the end? Or is the government always going to be the enemy? And the other scary part is the Supreme Court doesn't get the right to determine what's constitutional, they do and they've got guns," he concludes.

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Guest HvyMtl

Um. A Talking Head is a Talking Head. Has to say something to make $$$. Has to attack some to make Big $$$.

Put him in same boat as Limbaugh, Olbermann, Beck, etc. All blowhards with no real background or true knowledge, making $$$ saying what people want to hear, and throwing :poop: at anyone they can to claim it sticks, to make even more $$$.

Being upset and against his statement? Well, good, cause that leads to more $$$ in his pocket.

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Guest 6.8 AR

You may not like them, but Limbaugh and Beck do have a background on which to draw. They both came from somewhere else, other than journalism school and have always had jobs in the private sector.

I don't know much about Matthews, except he is too emotional to be credible, and he doesn't research his topic very well. I think he is told what to say.

My wife said she didn't like to listen to Beck because she hated his voice, but agreed

with everything she heard from him. Some people just don't like talk radio in general.

Changing the channel usually takes care of that. I don't listen every day to any of

them, but when I do, it's usually Beck or Limbaugh. The news is more of a joke than

those two. To each his own:D

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You may not like them, but Limbaugh and Beck do have a background on which to draw. They both came from somewhere else, other than journalism school and have always had jobs in the private sector.

I don't know much about Matthews, except he is too emotional to be credible, and he doesn't research his topic very well. I think he is told what to say.

My wife said she didn't like to listen to Beck because she hated his voice, but agreed

with everything she heard from him. Some people just don't like talk radio in general.

Changing the channel usually takes care of that. I don't listen every day to any of

them, but when I do, it's usually Beck or Limbaugh. The news is more of a joke than

those two. To each his own:D

Rush and Beck are old disk jockeys. It ain't a real job... promise :P

EDIT: And while we're at it, WTF is this?

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Guest SUNTZU

Do laws even matter today? - USATODAY.com

As soon as Arizona passed its recent immigration law, some reporters and commentators were quick to cast the story with the usual actors: "Tea Partiers," race activists, conservatives and liberals. Like our politics, much of our news media coverage has become a clash of caricatures — easily categorized groups with one-dimensional motives for mass consumption. Some commentary even suggested that supporters of the law are either open or closeted racists. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., recently called the law both "fascist" and "racist."

Though I am a critic of the Arizona law, I do not view its supporters in such one-dimensional terms. Indeed, I do not view the public response in purely immigration terms. Whether it is illegal immigration or the mortgage crisis or corporate bailouts, there seems to be a growing sense among many citizens that they are expected to play by the rules while others are exempt.

With polls showing about 60% of people supporting the Arizona law and almost half supporting similar laws in their states, it is implausible to suggest that all these people are racists or extremists — let alone fascists. Notably, a majority of Americans also opposed the bank bailouts and mortgage forgiveness. In each of these controversies, there is a sense that the government was stepping in to protect people from the consequences of their actions.

In the mortgage crisis, tens of thousands of people accepted high-risk, low-interest loans while other citizens either declined to buy homes or agreed to higher monthly payments to avoid such deals. When Congress intervened with mortgage relief, some of those who had acted responsibly wondered whether they acted stupidly by rejecting low rates and later federal support.

Bailouts and immigration

Then there were the corporate bailouts. For citizens to secure a loan, they have to meet exacting terms and disclosures. Yet, when banks and firms concealed risks or engaged in financial wrongdoing, Congress bailed them out and allowed their executives to reap fat bonuses. The laws on fraud and deceptive practices simply did not seem to apply to them. Just as several companies were declared "too big to fail," many of their executives appeared too big to lose money — unlike the millions of citizens burned by their business practices.

Those prior controversies coalesced with the immigration debate. The last time Congress granted amnesty to illegal immigrants was 1986 — and it was criticized at the time for rewarding those who had evaded deportation. Complaints over the lack of federal enforcement had been percolating for years but exploded along Arizona's long desert border. When a law mandated state enforcement of federal laws, the Obama administration moved to block it.

Indeed, high-ranking Obama officials such as John Morton, head of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement, have suggested that they might refuse to deport those arrested under the Arizona law. While we continue to tell millions around the world that they must wait for years to immigrate legally, Congress and the White House are considering a new amnesty proposal to benefit an additional 11 million illegal immigrants.

In each of these areas, the perception is that the law says one thing but actually means different things for different people. It is a dangerous perception, and it is not entirely unfounded. Such double-standards have become common as Congress and presidents seek to avoid unpopular legal problems.

•Torture: While acknowledging that waterboarding is torture and that torture violates domestic and international law, President Obama and members of Congress have barred any investigation or prosecution of those crimes.

•Pollution: While citizens are subject to pay for the full damage they cause to their neighbors and are routinely fined for their environmental damage for everything from dumping in rivers to leaf burning, Congress capped the liability for massive corporations such as BP and Exxon at a ridiculous $75 million. Though BP is likely to spend much more in litigation (particularly if prosecuted criminally), the current law requires citizens to pay the full cost of their environmental damage while capping the costs for companies producing massive destruction.

•Privacy: When the telecommunications companies found themselves on the losing end of citizen suits over the violation of privacy laws, Congress (including then-Sen. Obama) and President Bush simply changed the law to legislatively kill the citizen suits and protect the companies.

An arbitrary system

The message across these areas is troubling. To paraphrase Animal Farm, all people are equal, but some people are more equal than others.

A legal system cannot demand the faith and fealty of the governed when rules are seen as arbitrary and deceptive. Our leaders have led us not to an economic crisis or an immigration crisis or an environmental crisis or a civil liberties crisis. They have led us to a crisis of faith where citizens no longer believe that laws have any determinant meaning. It is politics, not the law, that appears to drive outcomes — a self-destructive trend for a nation supposedly defined by the rule of law.

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Guest 6.8 AR
Rush and Beck are old disk jockeys. It ain't a real job... promise :cool:

EDIT: And while we're at it, WTF is this?

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Now that is a good question!

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Guest oldsmobile98

Great article. I disagree with a couple points.

In each of these areas, the perception is that the law says one thing but actually means different things for different people. It is a dangerous perception, and it is not entirely unfounded.

Uh ... "not entirely unfounded"?? I'd say that subverting the plain and clear meaning of the law is our government's modus operandi.

Our leaders have led us not to an economic crisis or an immigration crisis or an environmental crisis or a civil liberties crisis.

Actually, I'd say they've led us to both an economic crisis and an immigration crisis. We just haven't seen the full effects yet. And they are leading us toward a civil liberties crisis.

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I'm happy that Chris Matthews is afraid of the "Right Wing" Libertarians who have guns. That's how the Founding Fathers envisioned our government working.

The other solution (...which Matthews and others like him worship...) is a system of serfdom and servitude where government tells everybody what they can and can’t have and what they can and can’t do. With them, of course, at the top; ordained (...by something other than God; they think...) to rule us "less equal animals". Matthews (...and his stinking buddies...) like that idea because as the great George Orwell said in "Animal Farm": "...All animals are equal, except that some animals are more equal than others... .

Matthews is a nut that consistently gets things wrong. That's probably because he is a socialist living amongst a group of people who, for the most part, love liberty and freedom. Remember, Matthews worked for those great Americans Jimmy Carter (...the worst president ever, I believe; but Nobama is doing pretty well in this department...) and Tim O'Neil; a real Demorat politician. I say it’s a great day when a son of Satan like Matthews is afraid!! We salute you Libertarian Gun Toters everywhere!!

Keep up the good work!!

Kind regards (...and soon to be voting for change...!)

Leroy

PS: SUNTZU, Thanks for posting this great article!!

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For almost 200 years of the American Experiment, people who think like me have been "mainstream" and America prospered. Now, for the last 40 years, people who think like me are gradually being considered a fringe right wing and America is getting closer to collapse.

I have a theory that there is a direct correlation.

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