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YouTube stunt with gun leaves boyfriend dead in Halstad, Minnesota
GlockSpock replied to Grand Torino's topic in General Chat
Didn't take the time to watch that video, may do it later today. With that being said, this is mostly what I base all of my information (and opinions) regarding this story on: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/09/massachusetts-teen-charged-with-encouraging-her-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide.html You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't," Carter allegedly wrote to Roy on the day he died. Carter’s lawyer has denied that she pushed him to kill himself and has asked the judge to dismiss the case. "You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe," Carter texted him. While discussing the plan, Carter appears to taunt Roy. "But I bet you're gonna be like 'oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that," she wrote. "I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that ... you seem to always have an excuse." "...his death is my fault like honestly I could have stopped him I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car because it was working and he got scared and I (expletive) told him to get back in ... because I knew he would do it all over again the next day and I couldn't have him live the way he was living anymore I couldn't do it I wouldn't let him," Carter wrote. Also, this article showing more of their texts: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/07/sick-messages-woman-sent-boyfriend-to-get-boyfriend-to-kill-himself-for-attention-6690531/ Carter: I think your parents know you’re in a really bad place. I’m not saying they want you to do it but I honestly feel like they can accept it. They know there is nothing they can do. They’ve tried helping. Everyone’s tried, but there is a point that comes where there isn’t anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself. And you’ve hit that point and I think your parents know you’ve hit that point. You said your mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn’t say anything. I think she knows it’s on your mind and she’s prepared for it. Everyone will be sad for a while but they will get over it and move on. They won’t be in depression. I won’t let that happen. They know how sad you are, and they know that you are doing this to be happy and I think they will understand and accept it. They will always carry you in their hearts. Conrad: Aww. Thank you, Michelle. Carter: They will move on for you because they know that’s what you would have wanted. They know you wouldn’t want them to be sad and depressed and be angry and guilty. They know you want them to live their lives and be happy. So they will for you. You’re right. You need to stop thinking about this and just do it because over turning always kills, over thinking. Conrad: Yeah, it does. I’ve been thinking about it for too long. Carter: Always smile, and, yeah, you have to just do it. You have everything you need. There is no way you can fail. Tonight is the night. It’s now or never. Carter: [D]on’t be scared. You already made this decision and if you don’t do it tonight you’re gonna be thinking about it all the time and stuff all the rest of your life and be miserable. You’re finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain. No more bad thoughts and worries. You’ll be free. It’s okay to be scared and it’s normal. I mean, you’re about to die. I would be concerned if you weren’t scared, but I know how bad you want this and how bad you want to be happy. You have to face your fears for what you want. Carter: “If you don’t think about it, you won’t think about failing. You’ll just do it and then thinking you’ll succeed. Conrad: Right. That’s what I’m talking about. I read so much about failed attempts gone wrong that it’s gotten me discouraged. Carter: Yeah, exactly, so stop doing that. There is more success than there are failures. Conrad: Are you kidding me? Carter: You have to look at it that way and people only fail because they have the same mindset as you. Thinking they’ll fail. Conrad: I really want to believe you. Carter: Why don’t you. Carter: You can’t think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don’t get why you aren’t. Conrad: I don’t get it either. I don’t know. Carter: So I guess you aren’t gonna do it then. All that for nothing. I’m just confused. Like you were so ready and determined. Conrad: I am gonna eventually. I really don’t know what I’m waiting for but I have everything lined up. Carter: No, you’re not, Conrad. Last night was it. You kept pushing it off and you say you’ll do it, but you never do. It’s always gonna be that way if you don’t take action. You’re just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off. You just have to do it. Do you want to do it now? Conrad: Is it too late? I don’t know. It’s already light outside. I’m gonna go back too sleep. Love you. I’ll text you tomorrow. Carter: No. It’s probably the best time now because everyone is sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck and no one is really out there right now because it’s an awkward time. If you don’t do it now you’re never gonna do it, and you can say you’ll do it tomorrow, but you probably won’t. Tonight? Love you. Conrad: Thank you. Carter: For what. Are you awake? Conrad: Yes. Carter: Are you gonna do it today? Conrad: Yes. Carter: Like in the day time? Conrad: Should I? Carter: Yeah, it’s less suspicious. You won’t think about it as much and you’ll get it over with instead of wait until the night. Conrad: Yeah then I will. Like where? Like I could go in any enclosed area. Carter: Go in your truck and drive in a parking lot somewhere, to a park or something. Do it like early. Do it now, like early. Conrad: Didn’t we say this was suspicious? Carter: No. I think night is more suspicious … Just do it. It wouldn’t be suspicious and it won’t take long. Conrad: Okay. I’m taking Holly for a walk. Carter: Okay. Conrad: I don’t know why I’m like this. Carter: Sometimes things happen and we never have the answers why. Conrad: Like, why am I so hesitant lately. Like two weeks ago I was willing to try everything and now I’m worse, really bad, and I’m LOL not following through. It’s eating me inside. Carter: You’re so hesitant because you keeping over thinking it and keep pushing it off. You just need to do it, Conrad. The more you push it off, the more it will eat at you. You’re ready and prepared … No more pushing it off. No more waiting. Conrad: You’re right. Carter: If you want it as bad as you say you do it’s time to do it today. Conrad: Yup. No more waiting. Carter: Okay. I’m serious. Like you can’t even wait ’till tonight. You have to do it when you get back from your walk. Conrad: Thank you. Carter: For what? Conrad: Still being here. Carter: I would never leave you. You’re the love of my life, my boyfriend. You are my heart. I’d never leave you. Conrad: Aw. Carter: I love you. Conrad: Love you, too. Carter: When will you be back from your walk? Conrad: Like, five minutes. Carter: Okay. So you gonna do it? Conrad: I guess. Carter: Well, I want you to be ready and sure. What does that mean? Conrad: I don’t know. I’m freaking out again. I’m over thinking. Carter: I thought you wanted to do this. This time is right and you’re ready. You just need to do it. You can’t keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did the last time and not think about it and just do it, babe. You can’t keep doing this every day. Conrad: I do want to but I’m like freaking for my family I guess. I don’t know. Carter: Conrad, I told you I’ll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won’t be alone and people will help them get through it. We talked about this and they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don’t think this much. They just could do it. Conrad: I know. I know. LOL. Thinking just drives me more crazy. Carter: You just need to do it, Conrad, or I’m gonna get you help. You can’t keep doing this everyday. Conrad: Okay. I’m gonna do it today. Carter: You promise? Conrad: I promise, babe. I have to now. Carter: Like right now? Conrad: Where do I go? Carter: And you can’t break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something. Conrad: Okay. CARTER : Go somewhere you know you won’t get caught. You can find a place. I know you can. Are you doing it now? Conrad: I’m ready. Carter: Good because it’s time, babe. You know that. When you get back from the beach you’ve gotta go do it. You’re ready. You’re determined. It’s the best time to do it. Conrad: Okay, I will. Carter: Are you back? Conrad: No more thinking. Carter: Yes. No more thinking. You need to just do it. No more waiting. Conrad: On way back. I know where to go now. Carter: Where? Conrad: A parking lot. There is going to be no cars there at 9:00. So that’s when I’ll be found. Carter: Okay, perfect. When will you be home? Conrad: Ten minutes. Ha ha, that’s perfect. CARTER : Okay. And, well, yeah, I don’t know. Conrad: Like, I don’t want to kill anyone else with me. Carter and Conrad then discuss the method used for the suicide, however Metro have decided not to publish this. Conrad: I’m home. Carter: Okay. Conrad: Ah. Carter: What? Conrad: I don’t know. I’m stressing. Carter: You’re fine. It’s gonna be okay. You just gotta do it, babe. You can’t think about it. Conrad: Okay. Okay. I got this. Carter: Yes, you do. I believe in you. Did you delete the messages? Conrad: Yes. But you’re going to keep messaging me … I’m bringing my sisters for ice cream. Carter: So will you do it when you get back? Conrad: Yup, I’ll go right there. Carter: Okay. Conrad: Love you. Carter: I love you so much. Conrad: (Smiley face). Carter: 33. Conrad: Ha ha. What are you doing? Carter: Nothing really. Just resting. Conrad: Okay. Ha, ha I’m procrastinating. Carter: Yeah, ha ha, I know. Are you back? Conrad: Yup. Carter: So it’s time? Conrad: Oh, it’s been time. Carter: Are you gonna do it now? Conrad: I just don’t know how to leave them, you know. Carter: Say you’re gonna go the store or something. Conrad: Like, I want them to know that I love them. Carter: They know. That’s one thing they definitely know. You’re over thinking. Conrad: I know I’m over thinking. I’ve been over thinking for a while now. Carter: I know. You just have to do it like you said. Are you gonna do it now? Conrad: I still haven’t left yet, ha ha. Carter: Why? Conrad: Leaving now. Carter: Okay. You can do this. Conrad: Okay. I’m almost there. Now, this is just my opinion, but that's a severely screwed up story. Perhaps other people would give her the supportive girlfriend of the year award. I don't necessarily think that she should have been charged as if she herself killed him, but she herself needed some form of help herself. So it sounds like there was a bunch of stupid to go around. I'm still wondering about the book that he showed her to prove it was safe. In my limited testing, even a .22lr will likely go through one book. It's impossible to know what he was thinking, but I almost wonder if he figured he'd get shot but then live, and then thus base his fame off "He's the guy that got shot on camera! Check on the video online!". Either that or he decided he'd die himself (either so that he'd have someone else do it for him, or that his girlfriend would reach famedom from this event). Philosophy isn't law. I'm not a lawyer, just an internet commentator:) -
YouTube stunt with gun leaves boyfriend dead in Halstad, Minnesota
GlockSpock replied to Grand Torino's topic in General Chat
I only see the two cases as one having malicious intent (convincing/bullying someone to suicide) vs stupidity/negligence (He convinces her that shooting into the book would stop the bullet). For further understanding, do you believe that the girl that convinces her boyfriend deserved nothing or simply deserved less? Furthermore, do you believe that someone that routinely, through psychological manipulation and intimidation, convinces people to off themselves is not to some extent a “serial killer”? Maybe not by the textbook or dictionary definition, but I don’t think you’d agree that they are innocent of their doings either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
YouTube stunt with gun leaves boyfriend dead in Halstad, Minnesota
GlockSpock replied to Grand Torino's topic in General Chat
To me that is different. The girl you speak of repeatedly and knowingly pushed her boyfriend to off himself. Obviously he played a part but she constantly nagged and manipulated him day by day to do it. That’s intent. In the Ruiz story you have two folks that do dumb stuff for fame. One of them convinces the other that something is safe “Look, I’ve already tested it. This is going to be awesome!”, and then that person died because it wasn’t safe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
YouTube stunt with gun leaves boyfriend dead in Halstad, Minnesota
GlockSpock replied to Grand Torino's topic in General Chat
The kind where you are so hungry for famedom that you will do anything, risk anything, to achieve it. I’m more curious about the book he shot beforehand that stopped the bullet. Did he shoot it with the .50? I’m mixed on this one. Should she be tried? Depending on how much firearm knowledge she possesses, and seeing as to how she objected at first but then he persuaded her that it was safe, I feel like the largest percentage of blame falls on him. He lost his life, she lives with it for the rest of hers. She has a child and another on the way. A good, expensive lawyer may be able to get her off on this one. It would be a difficult jury to be on in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
Ok I'll bite. If they engineered a super virus to kill everyone, wouldn't it make more sense to send him back in enough condition to walk around a few weeks, spreading it around? That compared to sending him back under terms that guarantee he will go straight under some of the best medical care, where it would quickly be found that he had something, even if unknown, which sounds better? Also, assuming you are actually worried about any of this, do you think it worked? I can create a theory as well. Otto Warmbier was deep cover CIA sent to take out the North Korean leader. His cover was blown in one of the WikiLeak email dumps and the North Koreans found him. Rather than killing one of our agents, they created the whole "theft" story as a means to play ignorant to the entire ordeal while giving them the option of eliminating him at a work camp. It was an accident, right? But nobody was around when it happened. Not our fault! Could **possibly** have happened but creating a conspiracy out of fears with zero proof isn't productive. Now, if everyone drops dead that came into contact with him then I'll give it second thought. He may have not made the best of choices, but out of respect for him and his family perhaps keep the conspiracies to a minimum? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Technical answer: The bullet. However, 10/10 points for the joke! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Honestly most of the time companies consult out to block “inappropriate sites” to some IT company and a firewall gets set in place to do so. It’s possible that no single person even ever technically said “Hey, let’s try and block gun forums” but rather the IT guy asked “Do you want to block sites condoning hate/violence, online gambling, and piracy along with adult sites?” and of course someone said yes. Possible, that’s all I’m saying. However TGO gets marked by sites that setup such categorizing and filtering is up to them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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They had to take time out for it! Nowadays all you have to do is livestream it during the heist. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Haven't seen any of the movies but bought the digital version of the book. Haven't read the book but plan to at some point.
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Post the last firearm related thing you bought!
GlockSpock replied to TGO David's topic in General Chat
Your pictures and the recommendation has me interested in the holsters. Thanks to good old Macgyver I’ve been sporting RCS for several years now and have loved it. However, am I correct in thinking that their custom shop no longer exists? Their website hasn’t worked for me for a while, just their quick shop items. I haven’t had the need to call them so I haven’t tried, maybe you can call and request custom items. But now I am interested in BC. That’s a good looking holster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
Well, I somewhat agree but ultimately it would just hurt the citizens of those states/territories and not really the government thereof at all. What is interesting is that it seems Puerto Rico has reciprocity built into its legal system but no reciprocity is actually established with everyone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yep, I think we will go to the bioluminescent bay. Never heard of that food but researching now. I love trying new food. And part of your comment was slightly confusing. Are you saying that Puerto Rico is likely safer than any major city in Florida? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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You see all sum guns is ugly and sum are right buitiful. Glocks usualy ugly but me personaly I just got mine bak from a frind who dun it rite and now shes perfect in everry way! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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This is not an endorsement but rather a PSA. Assuming that not only is this a reputable seller (I think it is) but also that Walther will give the rebate on this purchase (I think they would), the PPQ 9mm can be found here for cheap: $494 PPQ 9mm Free Shipping $537 PPQ 9mm Navy Free Shipping I'm torn, I mean can you really beat either of those prices after you factor in a $100 rebate? Since the rebate is open a while I may buy one within the next few weeks/months.
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Theoretically speaking, if it were to work out doesn't the fact that Puerto Rico is a U.S. Territory change anything?
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Yeah, if it were legitimate and easy I'd do it. Doesn't seem to be either. Too bad but oh well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The more I read about it the more I believe it will not be viable. It seems it can take months to obtain just the Obtaining and Transportation license (needed to purchase I believe). Since they are "may issue" on the carry permit, it seems they are quite restrictive on who they allow to obtain one. Would still love to hear from the aforementioned friend that may have greater firsthand knowledge though. That said, I'm about to chunk this one in the "don't worry about it" pile.
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If he is quite familiar with it, see if he is ok with me calling or texting him to discuss this.
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My Wife and I are considering a vacation to Puerto Rico. I began to research laws pertaining to carrying there. It seems we are in the unfortunate predicament in that Tennessee honors a Puerto Rico permit but Puerto Rico does not honor any other state or territory's permit. It seems that $100 may be paid to obtain a permit, and it even appears that this may be open to anyone a citizen of The United States of America and not necessarily just Puerto Rico residents. With that being said, it seems that it may taken up to 120 days at the discretion of the superintendent. Photos and fingerprints are also required, I think, but it seems that the requirements for purchasing/owning a firearm blend into the requirements for carrying a firearm. Perhaps any individual would need both, I could foresee that. I know generally you simply have to declare a firearm on the airline but I read that once in PR the firearm gets turned over to the policía (police). Then, in order to obtain possession of the firearm, you have to have "required documentation" whatever that may consist of. My main question is whether or anyone here has any experience with going through this process and whether or not I should even attempt at doing so myself. If it were simply paying $100 to obtain the "right" to carry, I'd do so even though the vacation is only a week long. However, the more complex the process becomes the less likely it is that I even start it. While researching, I found that a few years ago a court ruled PR's firearm laws unconstitutional so it would allow anyone to carry open or concealed. However, at the end of 2016 a higher court reversed that ruling so nothing truly changed. Oh well:( Link to PR's Firearms section on their website: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&u=http://policia.pr.gov/armas/&usg=ALkJrhhU_q8iUWl7Va30RubK-Nx25cdQnw
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Was at the DMV yesterday so I inquired about this issue. She confirmed that once I changed the address online for my license it fulfilled the requirements for changing the address for the permit as well. What irritates me is that they have a kiosk setup for doing driver's license stuff (change of address, order duplicate, renew, etc) but in order to do anything with the permit you have to fill out a form and wait in line. All I wanted was a "duplicate" of both my license and permit. I thought it would be worth $13 ($8 for drivers license and $5 for permit, unless I have that backwards) to have the correct address printed on both of them.
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Walther PPQ (M1/M2/M2 Navy SD) vs Glock 19 Gen 4 for EDC
GlockSpock replied to GlockSpock's topic in Handguns
Nice! Good for most retailers? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
Walther PPQ (M1/M2/M2 Navy SD) vs Glock 19 Gen 4 for EDC
GlockSpock replied to GlockSpock's topic in Handguns
Wow, imagine a gun forum that encourages me to keep what I have instead of buying something more. Oxymoron? -
Opinions Wanted: Go Back to the Old Trading Post Forums?
GlockSpock replied to TGO David's topic in Feedback and Support
I'm talking about for months before that ever happened:) -
Opinions Wanted: Go Back to the Old Trading Post Forums?
GlockSpock replied to TGO David's topic in Feedback and Support
This was another thing I wanted to touch on. I suspect the reasons are mult-ifold, but I too have noticed much, much less interest in my classifieds for sale since switching to the new system. Like I said, like multiple reasons for this, the biggest of which being a political climate by which people aren't panic buying anymore. With that being said, I cannot help but feel the new system has played a part to this. -
Wow, I didn't realize that Fitty % was a video production company. I took a look at your website the other day and I am very impressed. Briefly, may I ask what gear you are using for most of the time lapse shots?