General Rant - HS dropout rates.

[Guest nraforlife]

I've heard that Hood Rat Central - aka Detroit - has a HS graduation rate of 27% and that even here in East Tn its less than 75%. How in the frickin world is this country going to survive when the next generation is composed of a high percentage of (dis)functional illiterates or worse?

[The Rabbi]

I've heard that Hood Rat Central - aka Detroit - has a HS graduation rate of 27% and that even here in East Tn its less than 75%. How in the frickin world is this country going to survive when the next generation is composed of a high percentage of (dis)functional illiterates or worse?

They'll get jobs working for the state.

[strickj]

They'll get jobs working for the state.

Sad,but very true!

Soon you will see these dropouts in a group of ten hanging up a new stop sign. They will use the same work ethicists they learned in school to do so

[Guest jackdog]

or some will become inmates, that our tax dollars will go for their up keep.

[Guest sling]

or some will become inmates, that our tax dollars will go for their up keep.

Sad part is he's right. Sad that the people in Tennessee will have to pay for these people to rot in Detroit.

[Garufa]

They won't have jobs 'cause the only ones they would be eligible for are already taken by Mexicans.

[Guest DrBoomBoom]

It all went downhill when they outlawed corporal punishment in schools.

[saintsfanbrian]

It's the governments fault. They aren't there after the kids go home from school to make sure that little Johnny or Susie has the proper atmosphere to do their home work in. Food on the table, lights over head, heat in the winter, air in the summer, a flat screen TV and a computer with a T1 line to the internet.

[enfield]

It all went downhill when they outlawed capital punishment in schools.

[poak]

Sit back and watch Social Darwinism at it's finest.

[molonlabetn]

It's partially because of that 'No Child Allowed Ahead' program. The whole system is dumbed down.

[Guest betobeto]

Sad,but very true!

Soon you will see these dropouts in a group of ten hanging up a new stop sign. They will use the same work ethicists they learned in school to do so

LOL

[Guest grimel]

I've heard that Hood Rat Central - aka Detroit - has a HS graduation rate of 27% and that even here in East Tn its less than 75%. How in the frickin world is this country going to survive when the next generation is composed of a high percentage of (dis)functional illiterates or worse?

Well, you can start by blaming the government NON-education system. Then you can blame the stupid no child left behind crap. The high school where I graduated no longer has vocational training. The "excuse" was lack of cash, but, the reality is the students who generally went vocational had a zero chance of passing a college entrance exam and would bring down the standardized test scores. So, by "encouraging" 25% of the school to drop out the standardized test scores automagically improve. The downside is we have 25% of the class who have zero job skill and next to zero chance of ever making more than $10. The could have went to building trades, autobody, diesel mechanic, HVAC, or whatever and had the chance for a decent job making decent money. Now, without even a HS diploma, they are stuck without a chance to enter a trade school AND if they learn at a shop as a flunky, they have next to zero chance of every being "certified". That keeps their earning power at effectively zero.

THANK YOU GOVERNMENT IDEA 100 for "improving" education.

[strickj]

had the chance for a decent job making decent money. Now, without even a HS diploma, they are stuck without a chance to enter a trade school AND if they learn at a shop as a flunky, they have next to zero chance of every being "certified".

Its easy to become ASE certified! I know two people that are ASE certified working in their family's shop.Both are dropouts!

I personally received ASE certification in automotive heating and A/C!

If you look closely the next time you enter O`Reillys,or Napa you will probably find at least one employee thats ASE certified as a parts specialist,and they only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour.

http://www.ase.com/Content/NavigationMenu/Service_Professionals1/Prepare_to_Test/ASE_Study_Guides/Download_and_Use_The_ASE_Study_Guides.htm

[molonlabetn]

Yeah, it's pretty hard to fail an ASE.

[BrandonTN]

I was talking to a fellow co-worker whose wife is a teacher and apparently 75% of 8th graders in GA (not sure if it was the whole state or a particular county) failed the reading comprehension / vocabulary section of the state's standardized test. That is downright scary if its true!

[Punisher84]

I'm not really surprised at this. The schools have been rapidly declining for some time now. I know just what I have seen since I got out in '03 has been really sad. My high school had a low dropout rate and most of those that did leave got their GEDs within a year.

I fear there is going to be a large gap here before long in what jobs require and what the majority of the population can do.

[Guest Ghostrider]

Here's some education on the subject. She harps on the points a bit, and has a "past", if you will, but it's enlightening, to say the least.

The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn

One source:

http://www.amazon.com/Language-Police-Pressure-Restrict-Students/dp/0375414827

[Guest TNDixieGirl]

Corporal punishment is alive and well at my sons school. It hasn't been outlawed by every school system.

[Magiccarpetrides]

*Ahem* just because you dont graduate HS or get your GED doesnt always mean you wont succeed or be productive. One of my best friends got neither and now runs his own construction company he started and makes right at 6 figures...conversly I have a friend that went to UT for 4 years, graduated, and the best job he could get was at a local drugstore which he just got the boot from because he was dating an employee...Me...I graduated HS with "honors" and got a 28 on my ACT but didnt go on to college because there was nothing that interested me and paid more then I could make already.....that being said I work in Sevierville and nowhere else have I seen so much money and so little teeth. ;-D

[Guest slothful1]

One of my best friends got neither and now runs his own construction company he started and makes right at 6 figures...conversly I have a friend that went to UT for 4 years, graduated, and the best job he could get was at a local drugstore which he just got the boot from because he was dating an employee.

There is some truth in that. I have a chemical engineering degree, was H.S. valedictorian, etc., and I still have trouble finding a decent job. (I'm looking right now, in fact.) For the first year & a half out of college the best I could do was a $9.50/hr job as a technician, which was particularly galling as it was the ~1998 Clinton economy (best in 50 years and/or human history, according to the press at the time), and I was reading articles about illegal alien ex-cons making more than me...

[strickj]

That was the point I was getting at too Magic!

I have a friend thats now in his 7th year of college who originally had the intentions of becoming a commercial pilot. After he graduated the first time he could find no work over 8 or 9 bucks an hr,so he returned to get more education.

Now the funny thing to me is he couldn't afford his student loans the first time around,so its a wounder how he will when he grads again!

And the two I mentioned earlier working in shops,both of them are HS dropouts,never ever though about going to a trade school,and there making some killer dough?

We have to remember that a good education is key to success..........in an office environment! But the thousands of other jobs that require manual labor are plentiful,and very easy to do even if you have no "education"! All you need is the knowledge in that field.Your construction worker will be a genius in math,but could care less about all that other crap you learn in collage to become a "well rounded individual" and would forget what Sigmund Freud said about pathological lier's,and egoistical children