tracking point: the end of long range shooting?????

[Guest tangojuliet]

i just saw this news system called tracking point and was wondering if yall think this will be the end of long range shooting as a sport of skill......

[Glenn]

Seems it would be easy to just ban the system from competition. If the price ever comes down, there might be fewer skilled long range shooters

[Guest tangojuliet]

Seems it would be easy to just ban the system from competition. If the price ever comes down, there might be fewer skilled long range shooters

letme rephrase the question will it kill long range shooting in general as a skill

[Dolomite_supafly]

There still is a lot of skill involved in long range shooting. Reading the wind, thermals and distance are all critical to long range hits. As are individual skills like shooting position, trigger discipline and breathing.

[Oh Shoot]

There still is a lot of skill involved in long range shooting. Reading the wind, thermals and distance are all critical to long range hits. As are individual skills like shooting position, trigger discipline and breathing.

 

Point is, the tracking point makes those mostly irreverent. The trigger doesn't even release until the system tells it to.

 

- OS

[Dolomite_supafly]

Does it read the down range wind?

[Oh Shoot]

Does it read the down range wind?

 

You enter it so it uses it in calculation. Still up to your estimation there, I reckon but you don't have to manually change anything.

 

Automatically reads temp and barometric pressure, though. I've always been bad about figuring those in myself. ;)

 

- OS

Edited May 24, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[Dolomite_supafly]

I have an app on my Iphone that automaticall tells me elevation, barometric pressure, temps as well as any other pertinent data. Heck it even calculates how the earth's rotation affects where the bullet will hit on those longer ranges.

 

It gets my exact location based on my distance from various cell towers then it gets and average for the weather data between them all.

[Oh Shoot]

I have an app on my Iphone that automaticall tells me elevation, barometric pressure, temps as well as any other pertinent data. Heck it even calculates how the earth's rotation affects where the bullet will hit on those longer ranges.

 

It gets my exact location based on my distance from various cell towers then it gets and average for the weather data between them all.

 

But you have to use your brain and reflexes to incorporate it all,  instead of the rifle's.

 

I can't really see this taking off very far for civilian use, though. Certainly it won't be allowed in competition any more than an automatic golf club is.

 

Maybe if somebody wants to set up a robo shoot ala robot fighting matches or something.

 

- OS

Edited May 24, 2013 by Oh Shoot

[RED333]

And what if the battery's fail?

[Dolomite_supafly]

And what if the battery's fail?

 

Then you surrender or give up.

[RED333]

Then you surrender or give up.

Nope, I can still shoot with a glass scope or iron sights up close.

[Dolomite_supafly]

I was being sarcastic. But I have seen it in recent times. When an electronic piece of equipment fails some people find themselves lost, both figuratively and physically.

[mikegideon]

Just give me my iphone and a horus reticle in an FFP scope. I can pull the trigger without jerking the rifle.

[dcloudy777]

Soultion in search of a problem.... it will obviously not be allowed in any sort of competitive arena, and it's pretty useless in any tactical scenario because the shooter doesn't have control over when the shot is actually fired (how do you engage a moving target or a in hostage scenario?).  It's really neat tech, but I don't see it doing anything other than filing segments on the Military Channel. 

[timcar86]

Soultion in search of a problem.... it will obviously not be allowed in any sort of competitive arena, and it's pretty useless in any tactical scenario because the shooter doesn't have control over when the shot is actually fired (how do you engage a moving target or a in hostage scenario?).  It's really neat tech, but I don't see it doing anything other than filing segments on the Military Channel. 

 

Or hunting:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2EqO1qbrQ

 

Edited May 25, 2013 by timcar86

[Guest tangojuliet]

Or hunting:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2EqO1qbrQ

if you need something like that for hunitng you shouldnt be hunting in the first place 

[nightrunner]

You shouldnt be shooting game (animals) at that range anyways.

[jtmaze]

Or hunting:

if you need something like that for hunitng you shouldnt be hunting in the first place

Have these guys never heard of sneaking up on something. Or scouting then waiting and being there when they come by. What kind of sport is driving around til you see something 1000 yards away then shoot it. That is crazy. There was no sport in that.

[nightrunner]

Have these guys never heard of sneaking up on something. Or scouting then waiting and being there when they come by. What kind of sport is driving around til you see something 1000 yards away then shoot it. That is crazy. There was no sport in that.

Now that i think about it, sounds like a very useful tool for a poacher...

[StPatrick]

I think it's interesting technology and will only get better as time goes on (much like the 3D-printed liberator, this is very early in the game), but that video made me feel uneasy.  I guess it's just too video-gamey to fit with what I think of when I think of hunting, but I can see some positives as well.  A fair number of kids got some protein in their diet, and the kills were all clean (that they showed, of course).

Edited May 28, 2013 by StPatrick

[thundersnow]

...and the kills were all clean (that they showed, of course).

makes you wonder how many didn't make the final video while they were figuring out how to use their fancy toy.

[Guest RedLights&Sirens]

letme rephrase the question will it kill long range shooting in general as a skill

It will probably be like commercial truck drivers. Back in the day it was all stick shifts with what like 20 speeds? Now us young guys dont have to worry about it, when I took my CDL driving course I pushed a button to shift from drive, neutral and reverse while a computer does the rest. The old guys b!tch about it, basicaly you cant learn the basics and the feel of the road and your truck.

[mikegideon]

They were using a long range caliber. Looks like .338 Lapua to me. You can blame a lot of the success on the rifle. A .338 ain't even breathing hard to make a 1000 yard shot.

[timcar86]

Have these guys never heard of sneaking up on something. Or scouting then waiting and being there when they come by. What kind of sport is driving around til you see something 1000 yards away then shoot it. That is crazy. There was no sport in that.

So how close should you be to make it "sporting"?