Goverment Shutdown blame game

[bersaguy]

I have been thinking about this and decided I would just go on and post it and see what ya'lls reaction to it may be:

 

 

Ok folks,
I have been giving this a lot of thought over these past few weeks as to just what the Obama peoples main goal is. I started with a top 10 list and narrowed it down to the what I think is the #1 main goal for the shutdown of the Government and the main reason for pinning the most blame possible on the Republicans. Sure most folks know he wants to drive the Republican party into the ground but the reason why is the most important part. This is what I have come up with. About three weeks prior to the shut down John Kerry signed the UN Arms Treaty. Now at the Present time Obama knows he can never get it ratified with the existing House and Senate. His goal is to drive as many people away from the Republican party as possible so in the 2014 Mid Term election this administration will be able to gain a major majority in the Senate, even more than he has now and regain control of the House. Once that is done he will have two years in which to get the U.N. Small Arms Treaty ratified. Then he can begin the erosion of our Second Amendment Rights and the rest of our great Constitution at a light speed pace. Getting to guns will come to the for front of all things on his agenda. Now if you think about it, right now he would not dare try anything but with the support of the U.N. he will put his plan into full swing. They have been trying for how many administrations to get our guns but none ever signed the treaty until now. This is the best shot they will ever have at going after them. We need to make sure we all throw as much power as we all can to make sure  the Republican Party keeps control in the House and take his Senate away from him. Once that is done we can not only remove him and his cronies from office through the impeachment process but very possibly imprison many people that are operating behind the scenes. The Puppet Masters need to go to prison…………..jmho  

[c.a.willard]

Or, since key republican leaders were just as much to blame for the shutdown if not more so; we throw the whole lot of them out and start fresh. 

[Guest ThePunisher]

Start fresh with Tea Party Constitutional representatives who will adhere to the freedom loving constituents wishes, and mount another Cold War against Communism here in our own country and government.

[blueghost]

... The Puppet Masters need to go to prison…………..jmho

Who are these so called "Puppet Masters" of whom you speak? People tend to throw that term around loosely without any reference. So, are you talking about The Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission or other? When it's all said and done, both wings are part of the same bird. It's all smoke and mirrors....

From my GSIII using TPR

[frankmako]

when in charge, be in charge.  all of them from the top down needs to be replaced.  there is only a small hand full that i would keep at this time.  and that list is getting smaller.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Who are these so called "Puppet Masters" of whom you speak? People tend to throw that term around loosely without any reference. So, are you talking about The Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission or other? When it's all said and done, both wings are part of the same bird. It's all smoke and mirrors....

From my GSIII using TPR

George Soros, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, many other so-called
academics mixing with an ideology called communism are the
puppet masters. Keep throwing nonsense to make light of a bad
situation. If all you can think of to ridicule with are things like the
Illuminati, think of what's going on around you and read a little
history. It's intellectually lazy to throw crap like that out, even if meant
to be sarcasm. Blaming everyone includes you, also.

[jcoosi]

Last night a report on the radio by a media research center about how the big 3 stations were blaming repubs prior to slim down and how they "doubled down" during the slim down.

http://mrc.org/media-reality-check/mrc-study-even-shutdown-networks-dumped-most-blame-conservatives

 

The problem is they only want to know what they can get for their vote not voting on morals. That goes for them all.

 

"When the people find they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic." -- Ben Franklin

[Guest TankerHC]

George Soros, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, many other so-called
academics mixing with an ideology called communism are the
puppet masters. Keep throwing nonsense to make light of a bad
situation. If all you can think of to ridicule with are things like the
Illuminati, think of what's going on around you and read a little
history. It's intellectually lazy to throw crap like that out, even if meant
to be sarcasm. Blaming everyone includes you, also.

Valerie Jarret IS the de facto President.

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[LagerHead]

Or, since key republican leaders were just as much to blame for the shutdown if not more so; we throw the whole lot of them out and start fresh. 

 

How so? The Republicans submitted a budget that fully funded the entire government. The Democrats refused to accept it. 

 

So if you are short on rent and I offer you $1000 to pay your rent and utilities and you refuse to take it, is it my fault that you get evicted? Nope, it's yours. Same exact thing.

[c.a.willard]

The senate also submitted a budget that the house refused to vote on, or does it only count one way.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Senates don't submit budgets. They are to originate in the House. The senate may modify and send back, but it is the House's

responsibility. The President may submit a proposal, but it has no weight, either.

[bersaguy]

Thanks 6.8 for putting up the list of Puppet master and I will add a main guy to the list and that is Bill Ayers.  A well know American communist/terrorist and they have been friends since back when Obama was a young man supposedly attending college. One of the few facts that got out before they locked up Obama's records which is a very important fact is Bill Ayers parents allowed Obama to live with them while attending school and even helped pay for his education. Bill Ayers is probably the most important man of all behind the scenes and it one of if not the main puppet master. He was one of Obama's teachers or should I say Professors and still to this day teaches at one of our Universities today. He just released a new book. Do a little research and learn about this guy and you might be surprised just who he is and what his past reads like.

[bersaguy]

Senates don't submit budgets. They are to originate in the House. The senate may modify and send back, but it is the House's

responsibility. The President may submit a proposal, but it has no weight, either.

 

Senates don't submit budgets. They are to originate in the House. The senate may modify and send back, but it is the House's

responsibility. The President may submit a proposal, but it has no weight, either.

The House controls the Purse and they submit the budgets. The Senate makes changes they want and sends it back to the House and the house makes changes to it and it goes back and forth until they have debated something they can both accept and they send it to the President. He may sign it of even the President may send it back with revisions made and it keeps going through that process until they all agree and then the President signs it. Since Obama has gotten elected and Reid has become the main man in the Senate the House has presented a budget to the Senate and Reid has to send one to the Senate floor for a vote. So they have not had a budget in almost 5 years and that is why the Republicans are holding on so hard to the purse strings and fighting so hard against Obama's demands for more and more money and won't pass a budget. A budget would control his spending and the puppet masters don't want any control over him so they decline anything sent by the House. If the Democrats regain the House in 2014 and maintain control in the Senate this country as we know it will no longer exist. The UN Small Arms treaty will be ratified almost immediately and that is why Kerry signed it. They are making plans right now to make sure they win the mid terms in 2014.

[tnguy]

What shutdown?

[Erik88]

I don't agree that the Republicans were to blame. They made 3 or 4 offers to Obama which he refused to even discuss. Additionally, their last offer was to fund both the government and obamacare so long as they got rid of the special exemption for congress and big business.

 

Seems more than reasonable to me. The shutdown can be blamed on Harry Reid and Obozo.

[bersaguy]

I don't agree that the Republicans were to blame. They made 3 or 4 offers to Obama which he refused to even discuss. Additionally, their last offer was to fund both the government and obamacare so long as they got rid of the special exemption for congress and big business.

 

Seems more than reasonable to me. The shutdown can be blamed on Harry Reid and Obozo.

I agree with you 1000% Erik but the crazy people that voted this idiot into a second term only listen to him and his cronies. It is up to the people like folks here to point it out that it was not the Conservative Republicans that shut the country down but was in fact the Democrats. That is why we need to get all of our friends and family out and voting in November 2014 and regain the Senate and hold onto the House. This mid term election is probably going to be the most bloody mud slinging election in the history of this nation and I am guess that if it can be done again the election is going to be rigged again. I don't know how many folks know it but back in 2012 in the election a great number of the votes were counted off shore by a company in Spain that is owned by George Soros which just happens to be one of Obama's biggest money donor and one of his puppet masters
. Heres just 1 of many links that shows it happened..

 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2877117/posts

[Guest 6.8 AR]

You may be right about Bil Ayers. All I consider him to be is an unindicted co-conspirator in a domestic terror attack.

As far as I'm concerned, he is a common criminal, who happens to be a communist and hates this country.

[Guest ThePunisher]

You may be right about Bil Ayers. All I consider him to be is an unindicted co-conspirator in a domestic terror attack.
As far as I'm concerned, he is a common criminal, who happens to be a communist and hates this country.

Can't believe he's still walking the streets!

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well considering Drudgereport had as its headline today, Bozo McCain thinking again about running for prez,

Obama could get a third term. McCain needs to be put out to pasture.

 

Erik, you're right, and it may have even been more than 3 or 4 bills sent up that Reid shot down, and Obama said he

would veto. This is clearly in the laps of the Democrats and the media, which goes without saying which side they

always back. Not defending John Boehner because he wouldn't have gone along with the tactics of the Tea Party if

there wasn't enough depth behind them. There is enough to push hard when a Cruz-like person takes the high road.

 

It ought to be enough to stop all this nonsense about "throwing all of them out." That would mean throwing the Cruz's

out, also. Better tactics are needed than that.

[tnguy]

Some out or all out, it wouldn't make much difference. The problem's systemic now.

[JohnC]

George Soros, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, many other so-called
academics mixing with an ideology called communism are the
puppet masters. Keep throwing nonsense to make light of a bad
situation. If all you can think of to ridicule with are things like the
Illuminati, think of what's going on around you and read a little
history. It's intellectually lazy to throw crap like that out, even if meant
to be sarcasm. Blaming everyone includes you, also.

I try to explain we got commies and socialists in our Govt, but most people don't believe even when they see the proof. It's crazy!

VIDEO SHOWS REP. RECEIVING AWARD FROM COMMUNIST MEDIA ARM
 

In the video, taken on February 26, Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL) can be seen accepting Peoplesworld.org’s Rudy Lozano-Chris Hani Social Justice award at the Unity Center in Chicago. Peoplesworld.org is a website that enjoys a “special relationship with the Communist Party USA.” And according to the video — and an introduction given by someone in it — the Unity Center is home to the Communist Party USA in Chicago and People’s World.

He even states "we called ourselves progressives" which is a blanket code name for socialists and communists in America. lol

Takes a minute for the part where he is receiving the communist party usa award:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Ncey79sHM

And then this slip-up! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BdKkEKTrs

But it's all lies and right-wing conspiracy theories, right? :up:

http://www.dsausa.org/

http://www.cpusa.org/

to name a few.... :up:

if you want to look up people, orgs, etc., check out these links:

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Main_Page

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individual.asp

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/group.asp Edited October 23, 2013 by JohnC

[K191145]

Now what was the GOP House trying to pass that caused the government to be shut down?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-mandate-may-be-delayed-2013-10-23?link=MW_home_latest_news

I wonder how the polls might swing here soon after hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Americans current policy's either double in cost or be cancelled all together because of this socialist experiment disaster called Obama Care? I know it wont sway all the Obama drones, they will find a way to blame the GOP some way but many independents may wonder if the GOP House was right all along in trying to pass a delay. Edited October 23, 2013 by K191145

[Guest ThePunisher]

Now what was the GOP House trying to pass that caused the government to be shut down?http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-mandate-may-be-delayed-2013-10-23?link=MW_home_latest_newsI wonder how the polls might swing here soon after hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Americans current policy's either double in cost or be cancelled all together because of this socialist experiment disaster called Obama Care? I know it wont sway all the Obama drones, they will find a way to blame the GOP some way but many independents may wonder if the GOP House was right all along in trying to pass a delay.

300,000 people in Florida just lost their healthcare insurance. I wonder how many of them will continue voting for the commies.

[bersaguy]

The really scary part of this whole thing is yet to come. When the ACA implodes and is destroyed by it's own self destruction and by chance the Conservatives regain control in Washington there is another very important thing folks better begin looking at. As fast as all of these insurance companies are dropping folks from their plans. Once the ACA goes away and people turn to the Insurance Companies for their coverage again what kind of rates will people be facing with their old insurance companies? After all the people will have no place else to turn. I think the Republicans better begin thinking about that and have plans in place that will actually work to control price gouging by the Insurance companies when they come back on line..............jmho

[K191145]

The really scary part of this whole thing is yet to come. When the ACA implodes and is destroyed by it's own self destruction and by chance the Conservatives regain control in Washington there is another very important thing folks better begin looking at. As fast as all of these insurance companies are dropping folks from their plans. Once the ACA goes away and people turn to the Insurance Companies for their coverage again what kind of rates will people be facing with their old insurance companies? After all the people will have no place else to turn. I think the Republicans better begin thinking about that and have plans in place that will actually work to control price gouging by the Insurance companies when they come back on line..............jmho

I would hope they keep rates affordable if they want people to purchase their policies, if rates are too high people will not buy insurance and flood the ER's with colds and stubbed toes. ER's are already a nightmare anyway.