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Did anyone notice later in the program when Gunny was at discussing the 9mm Beretta with the other marine officer inside Quantico gun lab that Gunny had a mark/bruise above his left eyebrow? I think either the .44 or the .50 hit him above the eye with the front sight.

Citizens file notice to recall Councilwoman Murray | Nashville City Paper: Nashville's Online Source for Daily News Friday, August 14, 2009 at 4:19pm By Nate Rau A notice to recall controversial Councilwoman Pam Murray was filed with the Metro Clerk’s office on Friday, The City Paper has learned. The East Nashville Councilwoman has been under scrutiny since earlier this year when she supported a proposed zoning bill that had divided her District 5 neighborhood. Murray supported a zoning change that would have brought apartments to a Cleveland Street property, which previously served as a junkyard. Residents said Murray was ignoring their opposition by going forward with the zoning bill, which after considerable resistance, was withdrawn by the property owner once it was clear the bill would likely not pass through Council. “The reason why the removal of Pam Murray is being sought is because of the dereliction of her duties and responsibilities to represent the residents of Councilmanic District 5,†the recall notice reads. Murray also was the object of a story by NewsChannel5, which showed she lived a majority of the time in Detroit, where she works as a social worker for a methadone clinic. As was first reported by The City Paper, Murray had an ethics complaint filed against her with the state ethics commission. The complaint, filed by a constituent, is still pending. The City Paper was also the first to report that District 8 Councilwoman Karen Bennett called Metro Police following a community meeting, claiming a group with Murray threatened her. In order to force a recall vote, 15 percent of the District 5 voters in the previous countywide election must sign the petition.

BTW: All guns have a paper trail from the gun manufacture, to the gun shop and then to the buyer at said gun shop.

Found it. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/attachments/trading-post-notices-faqs/1d1169137565-suggested-form-face-face-firearms-sale-transfer-personal-bill-sale-transfer-firearm.pdf Or use the ATF form 4473: http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f4473.pdf Here is a good point made in this lengthy thread: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handguns/8631-has-anyone-experienced-refusal-use-tennessee-gun-owners-face-face-form-4.html#post111885

Chattanooga Times Free Press | Police shooting victim had 43 wounds Video Chattanooga Times Free Press | Video: Police shooting victim had 43 wounds Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009 Police shooting victim had 43 wounds Six Chattanooga police officers fired 59 bullets to subdue a suicidal armed man last month, a police spokeswoman said today. A preliminary autopsy report shows the victim, Alonzo A. Heyward, 32, had 43 bullet holes in his body. Without question, those wounds led to his death, the medical examiner's report indicates. But police said the use of force wasn't excessive. "When we are trained to shoot, we are trained to shoot until we subdue the threat," said Lt. Kim Noorbergen, police spokeswoman. "We are not trained to shoot to kill, as many people think." Mr. Heyward was pointing a shotgun at his face outside the McDonald's restaurant on Rossville Boulevard in the early morning hours of July 18 when approached by police, according to previous police statements. Officers followed Mr. Heyward to his home on Seventh Avenue, continually asking him to disarm, but Mr. Heyward didn't comply, police have said. On Monday, Chattanooga police released an audio recording of the encounter. The recording comes from the microphone of Officer Lauren Bacha, who apparently arrived at the scene after Mr. Heyward already was on the porch of his home. One neighbor is heard telling officers that Mr. Heyward had been threatening to kill himself all day and had been drinking. Police say that once on the porch at his house, Mr. Heyward pointed his weapon at them, and that's when they used a stun gun. When that didn't work, the officers resorted to deadly force. The audio plays out as a heated exchange between Mr. Heyward and police, followed by the sound of Mr. Heyward being hit with an electric stun gun and then three volleys of gunshots. Lt. Noorbergen said those three gunfire bursts indicate officers didn't think the threat posed by Mr. Heyward and his gun was quashed. "You hear a five-second delay and then more gunfire," Lt. Noorbergen said. "In these situations we do what it takes to stop the threat." The autopsy report, which is not yet final, details gunshot wounds on nearly every part of Mr. Heyward's 5-foot-9-inch, 180-pound body. Bullet holes were present from his chin to his ankle, but Lt. Noorbergen said it's not clear which of those were entry or exit wounds. "In one case we know there were three wounds for one gunshot," Lt. Noorbergen said, explaining a bullet entered one part of the body, exited and then entered another part. But the officers did fire a total of 59 rounds at Mr. Heyward, the lieutenant said. A standard .45-caliber pistol holds nine bullets, but not all officers carry the same weapon, she said. From the start, Mr. Heyward's family has questioned the use of force. No one was at the Seventh Avenue residence on Monday. "It was like they had machine guns, all shooting," said James Heyward, shortly after the shooting. "All the officers fired a round. (Alonzo) said he didn't want to hurt anybody, he just wanted to hurt himself." Medical Examiner Report http://media.timesfreepress.com/docs/2009/08/43bulletwounds.pdf

Voted.

Why does Federal mark the HST ammo as Law Enforcement? You have to go to a different website to even find information about HST verses the main Federal site. LE - Home Are there any laws the prevent purchasing of ammo that is marked Law Enforcement?

I assume this would be the same procedure for a two or more story house where the safe will be in the upstairs master bedroom. In order to place a metal plate under the floor, you are going to need to remove the carpeting in the location where you plan to put the safe in order to cutout a hole in the floor near where you will place the safe so that you can place a metal plate under the floor or remove the entire subflooring. Repair cutout or subflooring with the bolts through the floor with metal plate, cut holes in the carpet for the bolts and lay carpet back down. Mount the safe. I can see a thief using a crowbar to rip the safe from the floor, including the steel plate. Take the entire small safe and break it open later or at your home.

For LEOs in uniform, that statement would be acceptable. For conceal holders, how did the person with the taser know in advance that you had a gun?

Are these special bolts that prevent you from using common hand tools to remove the bolts?

See the post from timcalhoun that would be helpful regarding 2003 test on .45 and 9mm ammo. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/24370-caliber-blabber-4.html#post323002

On a different issue, what is the fire rating of the particleboard inside the safe? I am assuming that the original board was fire resistant to avoid burning once the outside of the safe gets hot to achieve a certain fire rating of the safe.

Unless there are more than one perpetrator.

Be sure you did not buy the Bran Frosted Flakes (in Tony the Tiger voice) They're GRUNT!

I noticed that WSMV still has their poll asking the question "Should guns be allowed in areas where alcohol is served?" at the bottom of the homepage even though it as become law. It makes me wonder if the reason WSMV is still running the poll is due to the judge order a hearing within the next 90 days as opponents continue to challenge the law. BTW: Current results are: Yes: 36% - 865 votes No: 64% - 1543 votes

Name of Park: All municipal parks, natural areas, historic parks, nature trails, campgrounds, forests, greenways, waterways and similar public places in Goodlettsville. City or County: Goodlettsville Results of vote: Carry to be prohibited Entity taking vote: City commissioners City officials say they are producing the required signage and it will be in place by the Sept. 1 effective date of the state’s new handgun law.

I was attempting to link the following link to Google Videos in a post and the result is two videos being embedded in the post. Any solutions to prevent the double video? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363 Todd Jarrett IPSC Pistol Grip Lesson

I guess your friend is not using one of the four grips shown in the link below. Grip techniques used with the M9 Pistol (ArmyStudyGuide.com) Todd Jarrett IPSC Pistol Grip Lesson http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363 The reason I did not link the video into the post was due to you would get two videos embedded into the post.

Guns likely out in Franklin parks | tennessean.com | The Tennessean Vote to opt out of state law set for July 28 By Kevin Walters • THE TENNESSEAN • July 16, 2009 FRANKLIN — Franklin's city parks will likely remain off-limits to guns owned legally and illegally, if discussions aldermen had Tuesday about the matter are any indication. On Sept. 1, state law will allow permit holders to bring their guns to parks, unless local governments opt out of the law. Brentwood and Williamson County voted this week to opt out. Franklin aldermen will vote July 28. City Administrator Eric Stuckey, Police Chief Jackie Moore and Parks Director Lisa Clayton told aldermen they have safety concerns about allowing guns in heavily used city parks. They also mentioned the legal conflict in the use of parks by children from county and Franklin Special School District schools. Alderman Bev Burger wants to seek a state attorney general's opinion seeking greater clarity about laws pertaining to schools' use of facilities where guns are allowed. Alderman Dana McLendon, who supports the state law, was wearing an empty holster at the meeting. McLendon talked about the safety of gun owners and the need to make a rational decision about the divisive issue. "Let's don't make the decision in an irrational, emotional misguided way," McLendon said. Aldermen Ken Moore, Mike Skinner and Clyde Barnhill were skeptical about allowing guns in parks while Pearl Bransford admitted she hadn't made up her mind, though she said her husband has a carry permit. Burger, who has said she's applying for her own carry permit, said she's received 66 e-mails from residents in favor of allowing guns in city parks and only 18 against. Franklin Mayor John Schroer, who wants the city to opt out, also said he is against a "sunset clause" similar to the county's opt out, which expires in a year.

Name of Park: All CITY parks City or County: Brentwood Results of vote: Carry to be prohibited Entity taking vote: City commissioners (Passed unanimously)

Bredesen hopes for gun laws rollback | tennessean.com | The Tennessean Governor says most in Tennessee oppose firearms in bars, parks By Richard Locker • THE COMMERCIAL APPEAL • July 15, 2009 Gov. Phil Bredesen said Tuesday he hopes the state legislature will roll back some of the gun laws it passed this year at the urging of what he described as a relatively small number of "passionate" people. He predicted a backlash from a majority of Tennesseans whom he said have become energized over some of the "craziness" in the guns-in-bars and guns-in-parks laws. Restaurant owners and local governments are exercising their “opt-out” authority to keep their businesses and local parks gun-free zones. Shelby County and Republican-heavy areas including Brentwood, Germantown and Williamson County on Monday removed all their local parks from the new law allowing handgun-carry permit holders to carry their guns in the parks. Nashville also is considering opting out of the guns-in-parks law. Metro Council members are set for the second of three required votes on the measure next week.

No guns allowed in parks in Williamson County, Brentwood | tennessean.com | The Tennessean July 14, 2009 No guns allowed in parks in Williamson County, Brentwood Local governments vote to opt out of new state law By Suzanne Normand Blackwood and Bonnie Burch THE TENNESSEAN Williamson County commissioners voted unanimously Monday morning to prohibit handguns in county parks, opting out of a state law passed recently that allows gun owners with permits to carry them into public parks. Monday night, Brentwood city commissioners followed suit, also unanimously. Calling the new legislation "ridiculous," Brentwood City Commissioner Regina Smithson said she was angry that the city had to go through the time, money and effort that went into researching and drafting the resolution. "This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. It's a common sense issue," she said. Williamson County, however, voted to reconsider the matter a year from now. County Commissioner Mary Brockman, one of the resolution's sponsors, said the majority of constituents who have talked to commissioners about the issue wanted the county to opt out. "I believe that opting out of the statute is really in the best interest of our citizens," she said. Brockman said she doesn't believe many of the county's 6,000 or so gun permit holders would want to carry their guns to public parks anyway. "I don't really see it as an unfair burden. Our students and our families" are a priority, she said. Brentwood City Commissioner Paul Webb agreed adding that the entire time he'd been on the governing body nobody had complained to him that they weren't allowed to carry guns in Brentwood parks. Schools affected, too The County Commission voted 18-6 in favor of an amendment proposed by Commissioner Jason Para that would allow the law to expire May 31, 2010, or when the Williamson County Board of Education gets clarification from the state on whether schools can use parks where guns are allowed. Existing law makes it a felony to carry a firearm on property owned or used by schools. Para said he's not a gun owner, but he supports the Second Amendment. "We need a clear reason to take that right away," he said. Brockman said passing an amendment based on the "unknown" just muddies the waters. At least nine schools would be affected if they could no longer use athletic or other facilities in the county's parks due to the new state law, said Brenda Sanford, the athletic director at Grassland Middle School. "This law makes it very hard for us," Sanford said before the county meeting started. Brentwood city attorney Roger Horner listed several reasons why the city staff, parks department and police chief all suggested the city opt out of the new legislation. Chief among them was if weapons were allowed, school children might not be able to use the parks. "People will still have the right to own guns. No one is taking them away. But common sense tells you that a lot of children and guns just don't mix," Brentwood Commissioner Anne Dunn said. In a separate resolution Brentwood commissioners also ruled that weapons would be banned from meetings and in city-controlled buildings. Residents speak Two people stood to urge County Commissioners not to opt out of the state law. Richard Wright said he's a husband, a father of two, a former scoutmaster, a businessman and a handgun carrying permit holder. "We as citizens have had enough infringement of our rights," he said. Jerry Bowen agreed. "I see it as a freedoms issue. We do have a right to bear arms," he said. Brentwood only had one resident, Neal McBrayer, make a public comment in the meeting. He agreed with the commission's stance on the resolution. "I'm a life-long Republican and I support Republican causes. But this is one piece of legislation I just can't understand," he said. The state law goes into effect Sept. 1, which is also the deadline for local governments to opt out. "We just want to be sure the children are safe," County Commissioner Mary Mills said. And not only children, but also "old folks," she added.

Results: Will a restaurant or bar's decision to allow guns inside affect whether you'll go to that business?Poll Results: Yes. I won't go if guns are allowed. - 34.9% Yes. I won't go unless guns are allowed. - 36.1% No. I'll go in regardless. - 23.9% Not sure - 5.1% Total Responses - 335

Should guns be allowed in areas where alcohol is served?Choice Votes Percentage of 564 Votes Yes 190 34% No 374 66%

Williamson County bans guns in parks | tennessean.com | The Tennessean July 13, 2009 Williamson County commissioners voted unanimously this morning to prohibit handguns in county parks, opting out of a state law passed recently that allows gun owners with permits to carry guns into public parks. However, the commission also voted 18-6 in favor of an amendment that would allow the law to expire May 31, 2010.