GlockSpock

I'm still curious about one thing. The law clearly defines a machine gun as more than one round fired per function of the trigger, correct? Lets say someone got arrested for possession of a machine gun (but is really a bump stock). It seems that the law itself could/would be in the defendants favor. IANAL I also know that in all likelihood, that person would go to prison.

Agreed. I think a person would be stupid to either take one to a range or transport it in their vehicle. I'm not advocating keeping them because that is very obviously illegal at this point, but I don't foresee them attempting to track any of them down based on orders/purchases. I do foresee (potentially) some pro-gun jurisdictions/cops turning a blind-eye, but I also see anti-gun jurisdictions/cops attempting to treat them exactly as an illegal machine-gun if they run across them.

Dang. I missed this one by about 6 months. I joined February 8, 2012.

I’m...not exactly sure what to interpret that image as.

Truthfully...that's exactly what I thought.

@TGO David Is it possible/do you see the need to temporarily turn this thread into a "banner" that is somehow shown as the top of the homepage, etc? Something just to make sure all visiting members can see?

It's a shame this happened in the first place the way it did...but it's even a bigger slap in the face that they were not "buying back" the stocks. It's a shame.

Try this? https://bit.ly/2OvbMS4

@AFgixxerTN I, with confidence, can say you could handle a 12 Gauge with 2 3/4 shells.

Thanks! Glad to see the status updates yesterday. There for a second I thought that maybe the Collusion thread broke all of TGO.

Agree 100%...if the training was for the teachers. This...I don't know about. If the training for was LEO to train response tactics to an active shooter event...shooting the teachers by the "shooters" accomplished nothing but giving someone their jollies. If the training was for the teachers themselves...and if they teachers signed paperwork acknowledging what could happen...I have lesser and lesser a problem for it.

Exactly as @DaveTN states. Which is why if Tennessee were to ever surprise us and gain constitutional carry, I'd personally prefer that alongside it there was some permitting process to keep reciprocity with other states. I personally think it'd suck to gain constitutional carry but lose all of your reciprocity. But...seeing how legislation in Tennessee has been, I'll roll over in my grave (because I'll have been dead a long time) if they ever pass constitutional carry.

@DaveTN Sidenote: Do I think a few of the participants likely took things too far? Yes, I'll agree with that. I would take things too far...so I understand where they are coming from.

I would think...surely...that a Sheriff's Department would cover their bases legally regarding this. I think 100% (just my guess) that a bunch of liberal leaning teachers figured if they just cooperated then they wouldn't be shot. Some pro-gun participants figured they'd try to instill in these people a "lesson" and figured they'd have some fun doing so. I found this quote on another article, I don't know how valid it is: “They told us, ‘This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing,” one teacher who participated in the drill and who asked not to be identified, told the Indy Star.

Ah yes, I read two articles about it this morning, the winy teachers who got shot. With that being said, at first I thought it was something like airsoft. I now think it was basically simulations...which is supposed to hurt more than airsoft. It seems that the "shooters" in this case likely would agree with many of us here. I would love to be a participant in one of these training scenarios...assuming all bets of cooperation are off. No matter how much it'd hurt getting shot by simulations...I think it would be an entirely thrilling experience.

Yeah, that basically means the product is worth x and the military can buy quantity y. X is fixed at a certain price not dependent on y.

Could just buy a...Glock.

They'd match your Chucks very, very well.

As far as I know, yes. https://chrpc.club/idpa/ https://chrpc.club

@Oh Shoot What is your interpretation of (8) that I posted above regarding "Enhanced" and schools, etc?

Shall I assume this is it? http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB1264&GA=111 Summary: This bill renames the handgun carry permit that is available under present law as the "enhanced handgun carry permit" and creates a new "concealed handgun carry permit". The significant differences between an enhanced handgun carry permit and a concealed handgun carry permit are as follows: (1) An enhanced handgun carry permit does not specify the manner in which a handgun must be carried. A concealed handgun carry permit will only authorize the holder to carry in a concealed manner; (2) An applicant for an enhanced handgun carry permit must submit fingerprints, which are used by the TBI and FBI for criminal history background checks. An applicant for a concealed handgun carry permit will only be required to undergo a name-based criminal history record check; (3) An applicant for an enhanced handgun carry permit must present a photo identification. An applicant for a concealed handgun carry permit may present either a photo identification or other proof satisfactory to the department of safety showing the person's identity and residency; (4) An enhanced handgun carry permit must be issued on a wallet-sized laminated card and include, among other things, a color photograph of the permit holder. A concealed handgun carry permit may be issued as a letter to the applicant and may be issued without the applicant's photograph; (5) Subject to certain exceptions for persons who obtain firearm training through the military, a police academy, or armed guard instruction courses, an applicant for an enhanced handgun carry permit must submit proof of the successful completion of a department approved handgun safety course within one year of the date of application. Instead of completing a department approved handgun safety course, an applicant for a concealed handgun carry permit will be required to demonstrate competence with a handgun, which may be accomplished by various forms of experience, including, but not limited to, completion of a hunter safety course, completion of a firearm safety course using instructors certified by the NRA or department of safety, military service, prior issuance of a carry permit, law enforcement or security training, or any other firearm training that the department of safety deems adequate; (6) The application fee for an enhanced handgun carry permit is $100. There will not be an application fee for a concealed handgun carry permit; (7) An enhanced handgun carry permit is valid for eight years. A concealed handgun carry permit will be valid for five years; (8) An enhanced handgun carry permit holder who is within or on a public park, natural area, historic park, nature trail, campground, forest, greenway, waterway, or other similar public place is generally exempt from the present law prohibition against carrying weapons on any property owned, operated, or while in use by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. Such exemption will not apply to concealed handgun carry permit holders; and (9) A local government may not prohibit an enhanced handgun carry permit holder from possessing a handgun on public property unless the local government provides a security system consisting of metal detectors and inspection by trained personnel for such property. A local government will not be required to provide metal detectors and security inspections in order to prohibit concealed handgun carry permit holders from possessing firearms on public property. So...if I'm interpreting this correctly: Concealed Handgun Carry Permit Free Must be concealed No fingerprints, only standard background check Enhanced Handgun Carry Permit Open or concealed $100 Application Overrides/nullifies laws against carrying schools, colleges, parks, etc (listed above in bold) Interesting. Removes a financial burden for many, but theoretically expands places the "enhanced" can carry. It's a step (positive) in my opinion, but creating two different "classes" of constitutional rights is...confusing at best and discriminatory at worst. I'd be supportive of this law as it'd benefit me.

If they were to lump schools and/or signage into the group, you'd see a rush of a lot of people looking to upgrade, qualify, etc.

Ok...I kid I kid.

20 > 3 Also 1 + 1 = 3 20 > 1 + 1 It's the...transitive property.