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AFAIK, Florida still prohibits open carry. Some have been arrested for the weapon printing thru their clothing ! Some nib-nose or anti-2A LEO claimed they could see it through the clothing, and that was all that was necessary to hook 'em up. Just make darn sure you plan ahead. Tough adjustment when you come from an OC state like TN.

"I feared for my life. There's my weapon. I will cooperate with your investigation, as soon as I have spoken with my attorney." /crickets/

Anybody have any experience with this magazine loader or other similar that I seem to be getting bombarded with all of a sudden on FB (so much for them being opposed to firearms and accessories, if it earns them a buck !) ? I have never seen one used out in the wild before. My first thought was that if they were any good, they would be all over the place, but I know absolutely no one who uses them. https://www.sportlifehealth.com/products/maglula-uplula-universal-pistol-magazine-loader-9mm-to-45-acp?fbclid=IwAR2P3uhqmz6WIowdMga5XuDcTYlAK7q1uqaxihqCIjiJYqHDEAlK8CN9ndQ

It's clear someone has him by the short hairs. All you have to do is read the Sibelius decision in 2012, where Roberts tracked right along in his analysis of the facts and the law, UNTIL the end, where he flip-flopped and said "yeah, it's a tax, all right" ! I've heard from lawyers practicing in DC that folks who were there the day the decision was read said Roberts looked like he'd seen a ghost when the Court was up on the bench for the decision. And, yeah, Oswald acted alone, all right...

So under the bill in its present form, would Open Carry thus be prohibited for a holder of a Concealed Handgun Permit ? If so, I foresee a bunch of "printing" arrests being done by any LEO who don't agree with the whole 2A concept. And they're out there. I had a conversation with a THP trooper once that absolutely curled my hair, he was so opposed to "civilians" being armed in any way, shape or form. They may or may not be few and far between, but they certainly do exist.

Whitaker sure mopped the floor with Sheila Jackson-Lee, I gotta say that. That was good family entertainment, is what it was.

There are a number of reasons I got out of law enforcement after 9 years. ONE of them is precisely so I no longer have to deal with Shi'ite like this. I really hope the old boy doesn't get charged, but you wouldn't see me stepping up on this one in a New Yawk minute.

This.

That was in Metro Nashville. I haven't followed it closely enough to confirm that he connected that BG with a previous shooting incident; I do believe so, however. What I do know is they scared up the car, the guy bailed, he was running down a sidewalk and the officer shot him from about 30 ft. behind. Pictures at the time showed a semi-auto they say they found at the scene. The video shows him running with a dark object in his hand. I'm not involved in the investigation, so I don't know what they know, but if he was reasonable at the time in believing the guy 1) had shot, and 2) had the gun, it was therefore probably reasonable to believe 3) he would use it again, and he was probably justified in the shoot. Honestly, though, the video is sort of bad to look at. I'm really not sure how this one will turn out. But bad to look at may or may not turn out to be a use of force justified under the law. Of course, the sheeple bleating for "control of the POH-lice" are screaming their lungs out. One rhymin' rev actually was on the news last night, saying Metro Nashville PD should adopt a "NO DEADLY FORCE" policy. I rewound it just to make sure I didn't hear wrong. I didn't. You gotta wonder if he sat in his house laughing, saying, "Man, you believe they actually put that **it on TV ????".

Homeowners carrier will NOT hire a lawyer for anything except to defend a civil suit against you that seeks damages from you arising out of "bodily injury", "property damage", or "personal and advertising injury". Got thrown in the pokey on a BS "reckless conduct with a firearm" charge ? Jailed arising out of what looked to you like a good shoot of a burglar, but the local Barney Fife disagrees ? UR on your own, bubba..............

Just returned from Nashville - Vegas on SWA. Vegas customer rep tried to tell me I had to have a TSA lock on the gun case. Showed him SWA policy that said ONLY the customer could have access to the gun case, and putting a TSA lock on it kinda eliminated that. After his initial confusion, he still insisted it should be a TSA lock, but he let me go on. I e-mailed SWA later, giving my reservation # (so they can identify him), and said that he was very nice, polite and largely competent, but he's giving out wrong information. They responded, confirming that he was wrong, and said he would be counseled. BTW, first time I've done it this way in checked luggage. Always took a small metal gun "safe" before that has combination lock and a small cable, that I can loop through the handle frame that's inside the suitcase, so that even if they get in the suitcase, they can't remove the gun case without a cable cutter. this time I put 3 loaded magazines in a factory plastic gun case; padlocked it; and ran the cable through the padlock hasp. Eazy-peazy !! Worked like a charm. Also, confirming what others said, they didn't even ask to view it being empty. Showed it to them - "lock it up" !. Okey-dokey.....

Originally from Ohio. Ohio is a "must notify" state. If you have a concealed carry license, AND you are currently armed, you must "promptly" notify law enforcement if you are "stopped for a law enforcement purpose". No real case law saying just what that means, so most people err on the side of notifying. "How's the weather" probably wouldn't qualify.....(Some Ohio LEO think that if you're licensed, you must notify them even if unarmed. Wrong......) So, if you get pulled over, the best move probably would be to leave your hands on top of the wheel, and as soon as the LEO gets the first sentence out of their mouth, notify them. No need to ask "what would you like me to do now", etc. --- they'll tell you. Many don't really care (they assume everybody's armed, anyway !). Some Ohio State Highway Patrol still get their panties in a bunch about concealed carry. Once you notify, the less you say, the better. Open carry of a firearm is legal in Ohio by any person who can legally possess the firearm. No requirement for a license like here in TN. You are 100% legal walking down a city street Open Carrying, and that alone is not even reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime entitling them to stop you and ask for ID. Some will, or some may stop you to ask you what you're doing. Respond as you see fit, but know that a legal firearm owner needs NO permission in Ohio to Open Carry. BS threats of charges of Disturbing The Peace, Inciting Violence, etc., are just that - BS.

Just gotta mention a couple of things. Moved here 4+ yrs ago from Ohio. Most notable differences are three. 1) Ohio has a statute (O.R.C. 9.68) providing a uniform statewide framework for regulation of firearms in many respects. As to self-defense, that means cities can't prohibit carry in local parks (concealed OR open), removing the danger of inconsistent rules from town to town. it also has teeth in it, awarding attorney fees and costs to anyone having to challenge a municipality who enacts a contrary statute. SEE Ohioans For Concealed Carry vs. Cleveland to see it in action (Cleveland always thought of themselves as a separate country anyway). I've always found the variety of laws here from locality to locality to be a tad troublesome, but I don't go walking around in various parks very much with a weapon on, so it's largely a non-issue for me. 2) Ohio requires that you notify an LEO if you are BOTH a licensee AND you are currently armed, but only if you are "stopped for a law enforcement purpose". Problem is, many LEO up there are convinced that you need to notify them if you are a licensee, even if you're not presently armed, and also, that you do so any time you get in close proximity to them. There have even been occasional arrests out of it. Obviously, charges were dropped, but they still took the ride. BE THANKFUL THE TN LEGISLATURE NEVER PASSED LEO NOTIFICATION ! It is a MAJOR PITA. Been stopped twice here. Both times they immediately asked me if any weapons were in the car. As a 9 year former cop, I guarantee to you that any cop with a grain of intelligence always assumes each person he contacts is armed, anyway. 3) Finally, open carry. Any person who may legally possess a firearm in Ohio may open carry in non-prohibited locations (govt buildings, hospitals, churches, the usual list). Any person may walk down a city street open carry, and are breaking no laws. RKBA is a fundamental right under the OH Constitution, and it was determined long ago that "that which is not prohibited is therefore legal", and that therefore, since no statute prohibited open carry by an otherwise law-abiding gun owner, such open carry was in fact legal. Another detail many Ohio LEO have had trouble wrapping their arms around - but 2A groups up there are working on it, daily. I do still have a bit of trouble understanding how LEO here have probable cause to detain an OC'er here to ask if they're licensed. Do they have the right to stop a motorist simply to see his DL ? All in all, I don't find TN laws difficult to deal with at all, and the lack of LEO notification is great (and now, with no license needed in the vehicle, mama can take her Walther with her in the SUV without having to get the license ! She's HAPPY about that!). All have a great weekend. But can ya PLEASE get the temperature down just a tad ???

They were wrong. They realized they were wrong. They corrected their mistake. That's really about all there is to it. Just posted it so somebody else wouldn't lose money they're entitled to. That's all.

Snark much ???!?

A gun store located in Mt. Juliet and Hendersonville recently refused to honor a gift card that my wife bought me 18 months ago. Their staff said all gift cards expired one year after they are issued. Unfortunately, that position conflicts with Tennessee law: https://www.tn.gov/lawsandpolicies/article/47-18-127.-gift-certificates#sthash.eJDwjO0D.dpuf. As a matter of fact, there is still some argument out there that TN cannot even permit them to expire after two years, since Federal law requires that they be honored for five. However, it is certain they must be honored for at least two. Just a reminder to anybody with old gift cards out there - they may not be expired after all. Find out the day they were issued. The merchant has to keep a record. You are entitled to redeem them for two years.

Well, guess that means I have to dig out that 10,000,000 volt cattle prod from the attic and take it next time I go to the opera. Bummer.....

Anybody in / near Nashville, PM me so maybe we can get together and I can see some of your product.   thx

  If you haven't flown with a firearm before, print out BOTH the TSA regs and the airline rules. Airline rules vary.   Here's TSA:   https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition   I would caution you against carrying that weapon in a zippered suitcase, locked or not. I've seen a video of a locked nylon zippered suitcase being opened with a ballpoint pen stuck in between the zipper teeth, within 10 seconds. Just move the zipper handle to one end or the other and separate the teeth with the pen. Remove the contents, re-zip the zipper from one end, and nobody is the wiser. Not unless your gun case/safe is cabled to the inside of the suitcase to keep it from being misappropriated, and even that isn't a cod-lock cinch (but it should slow them down, anyway). This is known as the "luggage monkey's suitcase key" !!!!

Just picked up a Bersa BP99CC, NIB. Haven't taken it to the range yet. I have a "universal" nylon slide holster, but I'm looking for something a little more substantial.   The slide will get me by for summer with IWB carry, but I'd like something heaver, like a heavy nylon or leather OWB. This Bersa is pretty slim, so if the OWB holster isn't too bulky, I think it may be pretty useful.   I like to buy local if I can; are there any local holster fabricators in the Nashville area who might have a stock that I can try stuff on for fit and finish ?   Appreciate any suggestions ! :usa:

My first police academy range instruction was in 1979, taught by an old guy who had to be in his 70's then. We worked only on J-frame S&W's. Range safety was not only paramount, if you f***ed up, you were out. Period. No second chances. You tended to pay attention.   The ONLY way a weapon would EVER be transferred to another person was --- cylinder emptied;2nd & 3rd finger through the cylinder opening; grip first toward the recipient. Even today, by force of habit, I point it downwards, pop the magazine, empty the chamber, turn it around, and hand it grip-first with the slide locked open. Younger guys sort of look at me with a question in their eyes. Older guys just look, and sort of get this look on their face like, "man, you WERE taught right, weren't you ?????".   God bless you, Okie Miles (RIP).

Tenn. isn't the only state feeling the heat of the anti's. I moved down from Ohio in 2012. They have a great statute: 9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law. (A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition. (B) In addition to any other relief provided, the court shall award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with this section. (C) As used in this section: (1) The possession, transporting, or carrying of firearms, their components, or their ammunition include, but are not limited to, the possession, transporting, or carrying, openly or concealed on a person's person or concealed ready at hand, of firearms, their components, or their ammunition. (2) "Firearm" has the same meaning as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code. (D) This section does not apply to either of the following: (1) A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses; (2) A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses. Effective Date: 03-14-2007 It's been challenged repeatedly by municipalities who still wanted to "call their own shots" as to guns (no pun intended). Most notably "Ohioans For Concealed Carry v. Cleveland". Now there is reportedly a move on in Ohio by the anti's to repeal O.R.C. 9.68. Imagine the patchwork quilt of not knowing what the gun laws were in the next city you're driving through ???? Boggles the mind.....

Checking your firearm at the ticket counter should be easy, as long as you follow TSA regs and airline rules exactly. Go to both websites and print out a copy of both, highlight the appropriate sections, and bring them with you, just in case you get an airline or TSA employee that's a little short on the facts.   Here's TSA's page on the subject:   http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/firearms-and-ammunition   You may always get somebody that's "one off". I was checking in at Tampa for a return flight, and got a Southwest ticket counter employee that is apparently not a 2A fan. I informed her "I need to check an unloaded firearm, please", whereupon she scowls, turns and yells, "Hey, Martha, we've got a gun over here !!". People within about 100 yards woke up REAL fast, lemme tell ya......after which she got a good talkin' to by Martha. :woohoo:

Some would condone locking the weapon in a concealed container in the trunk, and locking the ammo in a second concealed container in the trunk. They would not permit a search of their vehicle, and if ordered out in a NJ, MD, etc., would lock the doors with the remote, and pocket the keys, and if LEO tried to search the car, would repeat "You do NOT have permission to search my vehicle" for the benefit of the dash-cam (and the pocket recorder that they would have running as well). This way, in the event of a breakdown or other catastrophic occurrence, they at least have the option of the "judged by 12 is better than carried by 6" rationale. Tossing a car interior on the roadside is one thing; going into the trunk is yet another; breaking into a locked container without REALLY strong probable cause is quite another. Can they do it ? Sure. Will they push it that far ? Probably not very often, unless you have been deliberately pi$$ing them off....   Some would do that. Some would find a friendly FFL dealer near the state line and store it with them until they exit the Criminal Protection Hellhole. Some would leave it home altogether. YMMV.   And, BTW - I'm with the guy above about IL. My brother wants to know why I don't visit him. That's why.