bersaguy

I like this 1000 times............ :up:

They are wanting to slant the fact that good guys with guns do not prevent mass shootings. Like BW stated more of all mass shooting have taken place in gun free zones where good guys with guns are not allowed to be. It is hardly a fair discussion and is totally one sided when you take away the opportunity to allow the good guys to be where the bad guys go.................jmho

Updated mine to be less traditional................. :hiding: Or more traditional depending on traditions............ :up:

I can promise anyone this. If I was ever faced with a scenario such as this one and I am armed I will not be shot in the back. I might get shot but it will be because I am facing my enemy and doing everything in my power to if not kill them at least hurt them, or discourage them and do a Shock n Awe till the Calvary does arrive since they won't be expecting a soft target to shoot back...................... :usa:  

It's an election year and the candidates will say or do what ever it takes to get votes but will forget all those promises if elected or sent back home with tail tucked between their legs............. JMHO

Excuse me,I wasn't trying to be smart about anything. Was just something I picked up on while watching the video............. :shrug:

Did anyone pick up on the fact that the guy said that when the bad people pushed the buttons they failed to work. That would be a clear indication to anyone that knows those firearms would know that there is no magic button on the them. Yet they continued to discuss it anyway. They should have said that there are no magic buttons on them and moved on from that.......Like I have said many times.. You can't fix Stupid.................. :shrug: :shrug:

I have been in line many times at Walmart waiting to check out. There will be a woman and a guy in front of me and they will have 2 carts full of food. They will pay for the food with a food stamp card and when it comes time to pay for the 6 cartons of cigarettes the guy or maybe the woman will pull out a wad of 100 dollar bills and pull out a couple to pay for the smokes. Then as you follow them out into the parking lot they are loading the stuff is a Lincoln Navigator or Cadillac Esclaide with wheels that probably cost 3 grand on it. That is the way this country has gone. I quit going to Walmart because I didn't like to see stuff like that going on and it seemed to be on a regular basis when I would be there................. :rant:    

Well, I guess I do know what it is like to be shot and on numerous occasions but then anyone that has ever been in combat knows that. What makes me wonder is how many people at shooting scenes cannot tell the difference between gun fire and Party Poppers when you hear them talk about the shooting. Most times they say they heard the gun fire but didn't know what it was. I guess that does come with training to a point. I know what gun fire sounds like in many different conditions from inside a building to out doors. Anyone who owns a gun and has any range time at all should be able to recognize gun fire. I think it is to many on the left that don't own firearms that get interviewed for some reason............... :shrug: :shrug:    

Ya just gotta love the folks here when it comes to helping out a fellow TGO'ER. There are none better and that is for sure.... :up:

Well, it is my understanding that all of the guns they used in this last shooting were purchased legally with back ground checks so what more can be done in that area. They said two of the guns were not purchased by either shooter so maybe they need to locate that person and find out who he is..............jmho

Well, I looked at all the pictures and the one thing I am completely sure of is...........                     Ford SUV's are not bullet proof....................... :up:

  Good tips for sure. I have made it a practice for many years to never sit with my back to any door or stand with my back to any door while I am in a business. I want to at all times know who or what is coming in the door. If you see guys coming towards the door with guns out long or short you begin moving right then to prepare for what is about to happen. Like many have said seconds can count in your favor if you stay crisp about your surrounding................. :up:

Yea and I am still pondering over it. He said he won't do anything with it till he hears from me.in next couple days. Does anyone know if they make a pistol type front slide grip for this type gun?

We have heard from Pelosi on the issue but has anyone heard anything from the other wicked witch of the West  Dianne Feinstein

  I think this raises even another issue even more so. If the guns were purchased legally 4 years ago , who bought them because 4 years ago the main shooter would have been 16 since the police said he was age 20 yesterday. Maybe that is more information they are with holding during the investigation. On the magazine issue it was stated that they both had to stop and reload at the first scene so it is a good question?? They also said that both were wearing tactical vests with back up magazines so what size magazines will this type of gear handle? ..................... :shrug: :shrug:

If you like stories of men that came before you you might enjoy this one.   http://thirdwavedave.blogspot.com/2008/08/major-ed-too-tall-freeman-huey-pilot.html   Everyone that was anyone knew of him and many were honored if they had the chance to meet him. My friend I speak of always had a great admiration for him and said he would have loved to have flown with him.......... :usa: 

I still carry my Mod. 85 Bersa 380 but have upgraded my carry ammo to a more effective product........ :whistle:

I'm not really sure it matters where she was then!! We know where she is now and that is what counts as far as I'm concerned...... :usa:

Welcome to TGO and Tennessee. Glad to have you on board........... :wave:

  Ok thanks, that helps cause the guy wants 200.00 for the one he has and it is in very new condition. He won't budge on the price..... :up: 

That is why I have done all of my range time at 30 feet for last couple years. If I can take down my target at 30 feet anything closer would almost be a gemme. As far as going up against long guns, depending on the caliber of your carry weapon if your close enough to engage them you should be close enough to drop them as long as they are not wearing actual body armor. Evidently those two yesterday were not wearing body armor but just tactical clothing with extra magazines according to the police.   As far as waiting for them to reload, if your in the same room with them you may not have that kind of time before you are forced to respond. You also have an advantage because they are expecting a complete soft target and not expecting in coming hot lead.............jmho

I have an opportunity to purchase a Savage 320 Pump 12 gauge in almost new condition. Does anyone know anything about these and about what they should cost?............. :shrug: :shrug:

He has threatened this a few times in the recent past but he knows it won't fly and the Congress will kill it. He is just trying to sell to his constituents that he is trying to do something and blowing hot air for the most part..........jmho

If you lived closer I would just have you come by here and I would put it on for you and check all the other pully's  to make sure they are good. It can't be more than 20 minute fix for any experienced mechanic which I was and can still do simple stuff... :up: