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http://www.wsmv.com/story/27629649/families-of-newtown-victims-sue-rifle-manufacturer   The parade of stupid continues.   "The AR-15 was specifically engineered for the United States military to meet the needs of changing warfare," attorney Josh Koskoff said in a release. "In fact, one of the Army's specifications for the AR-15 was that it has the capability to penetrate a steel helmet."   And how many rifle rounds will penetrate a steel helmet?

Nice! I have a .40 myself.   EDIT: I carry mine in a pocket holster in my back pocket.

Well, you DO look a little off. :)

I would poo my pants. :(

The only top end 1911 that I've shot is my Ed Brown Kobra Karry. Some will argue lessor is just as good for functionality; others won't. I feel a difference between my Ed Brown  and various Colts & Ithacas that I've shot just as I feel a difference between my Cadillac and other vehicles that I've ridden in. The difference is not in shot placement per se, (I'm not THAT good), but in the feel and comfort with the weapon. I feel it in the mechanics of firing and mechanical operation of the weapon. It my be physical, psychological, or both, but nevertheless it's still present. I am comfortable with my Ed Brown whereas others are comfortable with their ______. Ultimately, it's a decision that you should be the only one requiring comfort with.

That's a purdy weapon there, Hozzie.

Kroger owns a lot of "brands" so I bet that you do have one there.

Just for counterpoint: I'd argue that at that distance and speed I wouldn't be using the sights, and a small shift of POA is not significant during recovery from recoil. As always, everything is dependent upon the unique circumstances of each situation. I could argue that most likely individuals are going to either be paralyzed with inaction, or react without thinking. The first class that I was sent to after becoming a policeman was "Red-handled Gun" which taught you to rapidly transition through the critical stages of thought to action during deadly encounters. At close range it's pretty much draw and fire making instinct shooting more important to me. Since I am loathe to go to Stone's River range I find myself wanting to purchase some property in the sticks so that I'm free to do as I wish without the worry of range Nazis or other patrons.

I literally did a face-palm after reading that.   35 years of doing this: :wall:

I wasn't speaking of 22LR, BTW; I was speaking of a more realistic protection caliber. If someone is going to charge me with a knife I'm going to rapid fire one to the lower abdomen and then multiples into center mass until dude stops or kills me. I shoot to stop; not shoot a couple rounds and see if it works. :)

Oh so true. I believe that there was video demonstration of this little fact a while back with several police, (Mexican?), and an attacker armed with a knife.

Not the pecker...that's just being mean. But I submit that a person shot in center mass while charging you can carry forward long enough to stab you.

I wouldn't look at it as a pelvic shot. True that if you strike the acetabular or SI joints they are likely to go down, but usually the appeal of shooting just below the "belly-button" is that you are shooting at a lot of nerves called the Lumbar Plexus, and the angle of the shot from a charging aggressor has a high probability of striking major nerves controlling the leg(s) and thus dropping them.

Might?

That's how I interpreted it too. The song that was playing in the background, (what I could understand of it anyway), indicated a religious connotation of God forgiving everyone regardless of repentence.   And they were pretty friggen fast crows!

Sutter said on the Afterword that the homeless woman was there to make people think what they want to think.

I felt the same way until DNA evidence started clearing so many people who had gone through the appeals process already.

I read the article as a deputy, (since the Sheriff's department was commenting and this was a county school board), was at the meeting; not called. I also read it that the deputy had previously seen a picture of a concealed carry purse containing a gun on this woman's Face Book page that resembled the purse that she was carrying, (a fact that I find dubious, but that could be because I have nothing to do with FB nor do I follow others people's accoutrements with that kind of interest). Even if this were all 100% accurate, what made the deputy suspect that the purse actually contained a gun at that particular time? How many people disarm before going into a prohibited area but leave the holster or purse on their person? How many purses look similar? Absent any other information here I do not see PC. What I did see from the comments below the article made me suspect the real story: This woman was not liked and therefore targeted, and they either got lucky that she forgot to disarm this time, or she was stupid full of herself thinking that the law didn't apply to her. Either way, they did not arrest her because she turned herself in later after it was turned in to the prosecutor. Why not arrest her? She was caught in a felony, right? Could it be that the deputy questioned the methods and doubted the case, and needed the prosecutor to make the decision? Let's just say that this report has my BS detector going off. Terry Stop: You still must have reasonable suspicion and frisking someone is not a search. I would also opine that a woman has a reasonable expectancy of privacy concerning her purse. If the purse were physically on the woman at the time then I agree that the officer can look in the purse for an easily accessible weapon. If the purse was not on her person I see it as no different than a locked glovebox or trunk because it wasn't easily accessible to her during her "stop" as it were. Either way, the article doesn't say. We both know that the outcome of many cases are heavily determined upon how much money the suspect has to spend on a vigorus defense, and the quality of the BS detectors of the judge and jury members. Most people do not have that kind of money: therefore, they cut a deal, so whatever truth there is in a case never comes out. This little fact appears to me to feed the beast of police deception. I know this because I've privately asked many veteran LEOs if they've lied to win a case, and the many of those said yes followed by their own justification for doing so which usually amounted to, "Hey! If they can lie then so can I!" I have also witnessed LEOs lying or embellishing the truth on the witness stand first hand. I'm not saying that all LEOs lie, (it was something that I wouldn't compromise my integrity over, and neither would some that I knew), but it happens far more frequently than people outside of the process realize. In some ways I think it's the nature of the beast because LEO's tend to be type "A" personalities who are competitive by nature. Personally, I hate to lose, but I feel that I lose even more if I cheat to win.

Ever heard of "The Fruit of The Poisonous Tree? If it's found that there was no PC then everything afterwards is thrown out, no? Or do think that our courts do not release criminals regularly for stuff like this?   WILLIAMSON COUNTY, Tenn. (WKRN) – A Williamson County commissioner investigated after carrying a gun onto school property was handed down an indictment by a grand jury.   Barb Sturgeon was charged with carrying or possessing a gun on school grounds. Sharon Puckett, the Public Information Officer for the Williamson County Sheriff’s Office, told News 2 that Sturgeon turned herself in Friday and posted a $5,000 bond soon after. The charges stem from a mid-November incident when Sturgeon reportedly carried a gun into an ongoing work session for the Williamson County School Board. “The commissioner had a purse which resembled a purse that she had previously displayed on Facebook, which had a holster and a pistol inside,” Sheriff Jeff Long said in a statement released to News 2 at the time of the incident. “A weapon was found in her purse.” The sheriff’s office prepared a report that was turned over to District Attorney Kim Helper. Sturgeon is due in court Dec. 15 at 9 a.m.   Just where do you see a call here? You are now going from speculation to fabrication. How many times do you think you'd go into a government meeting and search everyone "for your safety" and retain your position?? What stops a LEO from lying about a tip? Don't try to tell me that cops don't lie because I knew too many who lied regularly because they felt justified to do so because the criminals lie.

Of course in court. I never said differently. I'll leave it for the lawyer to do that and then follow up with a lawsuit. The context in which I was speaking was an anonymous informant. A citizen making a complaint and saying that they were out of the process from that point onward is unacceptable. What prevents a officer from lying in your case? A police officer has to establish PC that a crime is/has being/been committed, and he must articulate it in court. Stop and frisk for officer safety in this context is out because of the context of the meeting taking place unless there are certain threats in play. Oh course, this country has certainly gone downhill since I was a LEO. I never would have thought what NYPD was doing would ever fly and not result in copious lawsuits, but I guess they profile their victims well.

Studies show that they are actually conservative except in one issue: becoming legal.

You have the right to question your accuser. If you have an annonymous caller you have nothing unless they tell on their self with the above question. The questionee is free to tell the questioner absolutely nothing, and you'd better have more than good looks for PC.   EDIT: Unless there's a right to search sign at the building.

They also lined the area around Air Farce 1 with heavy equipment, (something they did not do with Bush), and put snipers on the hanger roof and the roof of Dell. He must be real scared.

Because they vote Democrat.

And drums, and pianos, and speakers, etc. They "make" a lot of stuff now which is why they a Gibson Brands...for now.