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What'd that set you back?

I'd pay good money to see that!

It must be a state by state thing then. :shrug:

That may depend on where you are. My mother died in a traffic accident and was covered by WC paying my father 1/3rd of her salary until the day he died. My niece, (who they had legal guardianship of), also got 1/3 or her salary until she reached 18 years old. The representative for WC is the one that told me that workers were covered to and from work because they are driving as a direct result of going to work, and it is considered a work function. Granted, that was in Missouri, so Tennessee may be different...but I doubt it.

I like the article overall: however, this is a phrase from captain obvious: “They are based on weapons of war that were specifically designed for anti-personnel use that are now being sold on the civilian market"   All guns are decendants of weapons of war designed for anti-personnel use as are swords, knives, bows and arrows, crossbows and bolts, and clubs, etc. Heck, even rocks are a weapon of war.

Legislative email, and he was the quickest to reply. My senator (Ketron) emailed this morning. As you can tell from this response, neither used a canned reply.

exactly! That is why they should be allowed NO wiggle room at all.

i believe that you are wrong here because worKman's compensation covers the employer during transit to and from work, and as everyone should know you cannot sue worKman's comp like that.

The reply from Campfield gave me the impression that businesses as a whole are moving to assert/exercise the right to search your vehicle anytime. I think whatever "right" that they think they have should be clearly stripped from them.

After seeing the article on the "Guns in Parking Lots" legislation, I wrote the following email to Senator Campfield and copied my senator, representative, and the speaker. I thought that you all might like to see the alarming response that I got and act with your congresspeople about it.   Senator Campfield:   Reference this article: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/jan/04/harwell-mulls-taking-second-shot-on-campfields/   Let me first say that I appreciate your work on the issue of allowing law-abiding and licensed employees to be able to leave their weapons locked in their vehicles, but in reading this article the thing that concerns me the most is that employers shouldn’t ever have the right to search an employee’s vehicle, or their person, at any time, and the version that is explained in this article seems to grant them that ability. For the life of me I don’t understand why the legislature is making this issue complicated when it is so simple: make it unlawful for an employer to search an employee, or an employee’s vehicle, period. If an employer has enough probable cause to believe that the employee has committed a crime then they should be calling a law enforcement official to perform the search after that official agrees with the probable cause presented. The employee’s vehicle or person is the employee’s property, and the employer has no property rights to either of them. Since this is an “At Will” state, the employer doesn’t need to search in order to terminate the employee.   Please consider this when writing legislation on this issue.   Senator Campfield's reply:   The issue is many companies are now making a requirement of employment the ability to search your car for a gun.   Stacey   My reply:   I get that, and this is why my solution is needed. I also get that companies want to reduce their liability without incurring expenses to do so, so perhaps employers that want to search their employees should also be 100% liable for any civil suits arising from personal injuries caused by criminal victimization that are accrued from the time their employee leaves for work until the time their employee returns from work too, and that is also NOT covered under workman's compensation insurance?

The site is different?? :panic:               :jester:

Last night on the Special Report with Brett Baier one of the panel conservatives stated that a survey of REPUBLICAN congress members indicated that they are generally willing to support gun control. He was shocked because of this being a core issue of Republicans for so long, but the current political environment is moving them to cave-in to retain any semblance of power. Our RINO senators have demonstrated time and again that they are NOT conservative and do not fear reprisals at the polls, so bitching at them will do nothing IMHO. I will say what I said in another thread, we must tell all of the Republicans that if they support gun control you will contribute to the campaign of whomever runs against them next whether it be another Republican or a Democrat. Money talks and BS walks.

Always check your package before leaving!

I call BS: we all know that someone innocent and armed at a movie theater would only result in a big shoot-out with thousands of people killed and injured.

Personally, I don't think it should wait befor we act, and I don't think that the people in the red states need to do more than fire off an email or letter to our representative: however, what I think would have more impact is to write to the asshats that support this crap and tell them that you and your friends will be contributing to the campaigns of anyone that runs against them in the next election. It makes it harder for them to raise enough money to win the next election.

We must be brothers from another mother.   I don't advertise that I'm carrying, but my size and demeanor tend to ward-off such comments. I would also say that just because I have a gun on me doesn't mean that I have to take verbal abuse from someone. I would have turned around and stearnly said, "Did you say something to me?" I doubt they would have the intestinal fortitude to repeat it or challenge me.

I guess finding deductions will become a new pasttime for me!

You mean it won't affect the AMT for 2012?

Being born and raised in Missouri I can say that Tennessee could definitely make their driving test harder. In Missouri you have a much harder test than here where they are just looking for an excuse to fail you, and you WILL FAIL the first time if you are a male. I taught my oldest daughter to drive with the idea of her taking her test in Missouri, but we moved down to Nashville before she could take it. All the time that I taught her I reinforced the idea of how hard the test is. Imagine my surprise when we get down here and all she has to do is drive around the block without hitting anything. She now doubts that there was ever a need to learn to parallel park, park on a grade with and without E-brake engaged, or not round off corners during a turn. My first observation in reference to traffic when I moved down here is that everyone thinks that they are driving on the NASCAR circuit.

I caught it, and it was a hoot!

I thought that you were referring to me because I was the one who brought up the alpha dog theory that I have used successfully, so when you started with, "The 'alpha dog theory' was thought up...is highly debatable / mostly debunked," and "...a lot of alpha training is just downright cruel" I saw that as an attack on me. :shrug: I've seen cruel, and it ain't me with dogs.

Would that be the five year plan from the 60's, or about 50 years ago? I don't doubt that there's people thinking this way in government; I just believe it would have an ice cube's chance in hell of ever working.

There's a difference between someone who's that evil to suggest that crap, and enough people who's that evil to be able to come into power, (involving both side of the political aisle), and actually be able to pull something like this off in this society.

There's a difference between doubting a "credible" news source and recognizing a BS report. I stopped trusting the news many years ago as a LEO when a reporter told an officer that I knew to "...tell me what happened or I'll just make it up." But that doesn't mean that I throw it all out, or that I'm incapable of recognizing BS from the tin foil society. I also don't have the bandwidth or inclination to research every "report" I read.

Ok, I'd like to know how what I described is cruel, because I take offense to the statement. I'd also like you to show me how something that I've successfully used for many years is debunked. I've also known a few PROFESSIONAL trainers that say Petsmart trainers are nothing but a bunch of kids that have been trained to be full of crap. I am in no stretch of the imagination a professional dog trainer, but I do know what's worked for me.