Jamie Jackson

    I purchased a 2 burner Camp Chef just for outdoor canning and as a backup means. But my large burner on our old electric stove runs our 930 very well. Grated, 14 quarts of meat is heavy, but no issues in several years use thus far.   How large or sturdy is your grill?     Camp Chef link: http://www.campchef.com/explorer-two-burner-stove.html

Yeah, my grandmother and my mother-in-law have canned things in manners I personally wouldn't try these days. I'd much rather err on the side of caution.   It's good to know alternatives, even the "guerrila-canning" I mentioned in my first post.   But for someone just getting into canning, please use caution. Botulinum toxin is a nasty thing... :2cents:       I too cool my freshly canned goods overnight, then remove the rings and wash the jars in warm soapy water and rinse-dry-label-date.   I check my canned goods several times each year to make sure they maintain a good seal, they are stored in a climate controlled environment. Not having the rings in place also allows you to pick up on something that looses it's seal very easily.

Welcome Reloader.   We share a lot of the same interests. Looking forward to the information sharing. :hat:

teslausa on Amazon seez. Yep...quite a few on there my friend.   http://www.amazon.com/Surefire-Pack-Boxed-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0035HB694/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413811118&sr=8-1&keywords=surefire+12+pack+boxed+123a+lithium+batteries

Good article peejman. :up:   I thought I was the only person on TGO that read Mother Earth News LOL.   There's actually good info there if you can get past the left-leaning dribble.

I've used 123 Surfire batteries I've purchased off Amazon Prime and had no issues with them...fast and no additional cost shipping.   As a matter of fact I just ordered more this morning. Around $22.00/dozen.

monkeylizard's post is spot-on! :up:   We can a few hundred jars each year. Sometimes 300-400 jars...depends on the garden and meat sale prices... (edited: only about 200 jars of goods this year...)   First and foremost purchase and read Ball's Bluebook...please. :pleased:     To the best of my knowledge the 1/2 gallon and gallon sized jars are not safe for pressure canning, and I wouldn't trust water bath canning in them myself. For vacuum sealed dry storage? Yes.   The type of food you are canning and the acidity of the foods, to a large degree determine water vs pressure canning...it's well explained in the simple to follow Ball's Bluebook.   We pressure can all meat and meat containing foods we process. You pressure can all items for the item (like "meat") that takes the longest period of time to safely can...iirc 75 minutes for pints and 90 minutes for quarts, we use 15 pound pressure r/t elevation.   Initially you need to rigidly follow the guidelines/instructions/recipes...Safety is an absolute necessity. But canning is very easy and simple...just be meticulous each and every time.   The only thing we waterbath can are fruits, jams, jellies, and pickled items. And we pickle a lot of vegetables....okra, green tomatoes, cukes, peppers, green beans and on and on. :pleased:     After you've "conquered" the processes, you might then want to look into "guerrila-canning". But only after you have the basic's down cold. :cool:   Jackie Clay:  "Growing and Canning Your Own Food" http://www.amazon.com/Growing-Canning-Your-Own-Food-ebook/dp/B00B5LAG0M       Ball Bluebook: http://www.amazon.com/Ball-Complete-Book-Home-Preserving/dp/0778801314/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413803927&sr=8-1&keywords=blue+ball+book+of+preserving   National Center for Home Food Preservation: (great resource) http://nchfp.uga.edu/index.html   Canning Kit: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Basics-286-5-Piece-Canning/dp/B0002BF1WY   Waterbath canner: http://www.amazon.com/Granite-0707-1-Porcelain-Water-Bath-21-5-Quart/dp/B0001UZL8A/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1413804156&sr=1-1&keywords=waterbath+canner+with+rack   Pressure canner(s):   All American...we have a 930, but unless you can a lot at one time, a smaller version will serve you well. An All American will also serve future generations...you can take that to the bank my friend. http://www.allamericancanner.com/allamericanpressurecanner.htm   Presto: excellent canners as well http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413804381&sr=8-1&keywords=presto+cooker+canner

Try clicking the  "pdf" and then "Open" with adobe reader. Works well for me. :pleased:   Home Storage Center Order Form—United States   LINK =  pdf

For East TN, Knoxville area TGO members:   TN – Knoxville Phone(865) 692-5374 Address202 Sherway Road PO Box 30367 Knoxville, Tennessee 37930   (Near Mayo's Garden Center on Kingston Pike)   It'll help to print and fill out your order form before you go. You don't need to be a Church Member...   I haven't been in a couple of years, but definitely need to go again. We purchased bulk components, but a bud of mine went and they helped him can up a truckload of great stuff.

Always been a hit or miss for me...mostly a miss...   You can always sell them on EBay...just add a disclaimer "Hit or Miss" mags. :popcorn:

True R_Bert.   The supplies are certainly available, even REACTS level training. The gear is simply not in current use at the vast majority of facilities...but should be.   My point in posting this was to not have folks think that all health care facilities are "safe havens". Eventually...hopefully...

Signed. Thank you for the opportunity.

We, as a Health Care System are honestly not prepared for dealing with this. This is what they wear to clean up the area... the person on the right (as you view this) is Standard in hospital PPE...the one of the left is what we need and don't have... But on 1st contact, "Triage", we have none of it...unless the person notifies you at a distance...Good Luck with that happening... :cool: And Health Care/ Hospitals are just like any bureaucracy...slow to implement change...very slow. :2cents:

Excellent suggestions and info already.     [u]Chronograph[/u] like peejman mentioned. It's a necessity for safe load development, especially in rifle calibers, imho.   I know I've done some .30-30 lead "plinking" loads that shot 12-18" lower than factory rounds in my Marlin...due to their markedly slower velocity it was expected.

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread. My LW barrels work great for my lead handloads...but I had to take my time in load development, using a shorter OAL than my OEM barrels required, along with a good taper crimp (9mm). They run smooth a silk with my loads (147 gr Falcon bullets).   iirc & fwiw Storm Lake barrels are made in Lenoir City. One of the reps shoots matches at ORSA from time to time.

  I'm looking too Erik.   The "Last Stand: Surviving America's Collapse" books by Weber were only OK...decent for a new writer...but just OK.

I have them for my G19 & G17.   They are great for shooting lead bullets. But they have much tighter tolerances than the OEM barrels. Not all factory ammo will seat in them...Golden Saber comes to mind.   So...for reliability's sake...try and match your ammo to the barrel with any aftermarket unit.   I personally would not use them for self defense. Glock OEM barrels are made to work...LW are fine for plinking.   :2cents:

I think you're right OS. The market may well be glutted... providing us with an opportunity for doing what we sometimes bemoan not doing..."buying it cheap and stacking it deep".   This is a great time to stock up folks. The "cycle" of available-scarce-available has certainly escalated the past few years.   God only knows what the next several years will bring...

Excellent post JCM. Wow...there's a lot of great info in that post. :up:   We garden (but not as intensively as you guys do), can (All American Canner), dehydrate (Excalibur), and of course have a couple of chest type freezers.     I like your suggestion of pureeing the various veggies you mentioned, seasoning them, and freezing them for later use. Saves a lot of steps when preparing a meal at the end of the day.     Any special tips of "seed saving"? How are your germination rates?   And..as related to your garden. I make the assumption it is fairly large...Do you use traditional garden bed arrangements? Raised beds? Combination?     Stock! Oh Yeah! Great stuff. I canned a turkey and pork loin a few weeks ago. I took the bones from the turkey and slow boiled them for several hours.. about 10 hours total...and canned the stock from that. Awesome stuff. We've used a pint of it already.     Regards your mirepoix... do you ever dehydrate the mixture? freeze? or just use fresh when in season?   We use the "Cajun Trinity" a lot ourselves (bell peppers, onions, and celery)...but we're from "down there" originally. :pleased:       edit...because I can't spell...obviously LOL

Welcome aboard JCM.  :hat:   If you have any culinary ideas and suggestions for storage foods and fresh game, why not check out the "Survival and Preparedness" area and share your thoughts?   I'm always looking for interesting suggestions to help beat back food fatigue, and I'm sure others are as well.

I use Bianchi Speed strips and have for a long time. I down load to 5 rounds and leave them full length as it adds a bit more fumble-proof "handle" to grasp. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/243389/bianchi-580-speed-strips-38-special-and-357-magnum-package-of-2-plastic-black But my little J Frame is almost always a second, not primary, carry gun. But for a non-permissive environment? It'll do. :pleased:

Good find Someotherguy! :up:   It's a good feeling isn't it?

Sorry for a bit of thread drift folks... :pleased:   I picked up one of these Dusty..best $100.00 I've ever spent. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/852429/competition-electronics-prochrono-digital-chronograph

  It's very frustrating my friend. I had Graf's drop several backorders on me this past year...such is life...but my memory is long...   The positive side is that I've developed handgun loads with powders I had never even considered using it the past. My chronograph has paid for itself several times over this past year. LOL

You're not alone Dusty...and everyone else. We've had Unique on backorder for several months as well.   It seems that when any pistol, or rifle, powder comes in, it goes out just a bit faster than immediately.