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I feel your pain buddy.

I've put it there as a passenger as well. Having to reach over my legs for it isn't a big deal for me. Seems like I am twisting my body anyway to look or talk out the window anyways.

That is the same with me. On occasion I have clipped my OWB holster to my doors... uh... "map holder thingy". Not sure what it is called. Clips pretty good there. Doesn't move.

Glad to hear you took the class. Mark is an old buddy of mine. We used to work together for years. My wife, brother-in-laws, and sister-in-laws all took their HCP class from him. Congrats!

BWahahahaa!!!! If you touch your extractor more than twice though... your playing with it. Not that there is anything wrong with that... just call it what it is! LOL!!!

I backpack a little in the smokies. The Red Cross offers a "Wilderness First Aid" class in my area. I backpack and wanted to take this course last year but it wouldn't fit my schedule. Hope to this year though, in March. ($100 bucks, two days) Here is a run down... Learning objectives: ● Identify how to respond to delayed-help emergency situations. ● Identify 3 types of delayed-help environments. ● Identify causes of injuries and ways injuries can be prevented in wilderness areas. ● Learn proper advance preparation for journeys into the back country. ● Learn the first aid Emergency Action Steps to use when EMS is not readily available. ● Learn basic and more advanced first aid techniques to use when injury occurs. ● Describe techniques for protecting the victim from weather. ● Discuss difficult decisions to be made in a delayed-help emergency situation. ● Learn how to respond to an emotionally upset victim. ● Learn short distance transfer and evacuation techniques. ● Experience providing wilderness first aid rescues that test knowledge and skills. *I have no formal medical training! I have had basic CPR stuff, a wound management class, (helped take care of my Dad for months who had an open abdomen wound that would not close - He was on hospice and had a fistula that resulted in waste matter spilling into his abdomen), also my son has TYPE I diabetes. When backpacking, (usually three of us) I have a generic kit I ought when I first started backpacking, but only use the bag now. Everything has been replaced in it. I'd have to look, but basically I carry stuff for... • Minor pain relief meds, and anti-inflammatory stuff • Allergy management (bee stings and stuff) • Stuff for sprains • Stomach meds (case you get the screaming craps) • Minor wound management stuff (gauze, pads, tampons, sanitary pads, etc) • Pencil, gloves, etc. • Also carry a small bottle of Ambusol, for toothaches and as a topical I try to only carry what I know how to use. For a disaster type situation I'm not really sure what I would though for any serious medical problem. I do however keep 3 months ahead on insulin and test strips for my son! *Edit* You know, maybe a picture thread started in the survival skills thread would be pretty good for people to show what they are currently using. You post a picture of what you have, then describe the contents. That way others could get ideas of ways to improve their kits. Just a thought.

Capitalistic Groups? Anti-Socialist Social Groups? Or maybe call them "Tactical Groups"?

As long as the topic of "Sudden Zombie Outbreak" is discussed openly and objectively I'm all for it. (It's simply a matter of "When" not "If" gentlemen.) Could that also be like an "outdoors" section. Many here like to camp, backpack, canoe, fish, etc. Maybe a more broad title and description to cover survival and outdoor skills maybe. Just a thought. Oh yeah.... and zombie stuff.

You can download the questionnaire here. It is what you have to answer to be considered to be able to work for teh new administration. What is really interesting is some questions would disqualify Obama to even work for him! LOL!! Some questions that caught my eye... (14) Diaries: If you keep or have kept a diary that contains anything that could suggest a conflict of interest or be a possible source of embarrassment to you, your family, or the President-Elect if it were made public, please describe. Hmmm... that's a little personal isn't it? Should you need to turn over all your papers as well? (46) Have any members of your family or close social or business associates been arrested for, charged with and/or convicted of a crime, other than a minor traffic violation? If so, please identify and describe each such arrest, charge or conviction. Please provide the same information for anyone under your professional supervision, or any of your superiors. Uh.... Hey wait a minute? Didn't I hear something about that guy that was setting bombs off? And that other guy you knew in Chicago that was under investigation? Weren't you somes ort of business partner or something with him? Wait a minute? Report on people that worked under you? And while your at it... got any dirt on your supervisors? (58) Please provide the URL address of any websites that feature you in either a personal or professional capacity (e.g. Facebook, MySpace, etc.) Yeah... we don't want any beer bong pictures to surface later. (59) Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so provide complete ownership and registration Information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage. WHAT?!?!? What kind of question is that? More over what business is it of them what members of my family own a gun? Oh yeah... no doubt about it... he's for "sensible gun laws" alright. Just like the ones he has in Chicago. Notice how the news media never followed up on the gun question with him? He always said he was for "sensible gun laws"... all they had to ask was "Like the ones on Chicago?" Must be nice to be sooo elite.... and the only one asking the questions.

A long while back had a little Thrush bird land on the end of my barrel while Coyote hunting. It sat there for what seemed like forever before flying off. Another time had a ground squirrel come up to me and try to naw on my boot lace. I jerked my foot real quick and he about killed himself trying to get away. he looked like a little pin ball bouncing off of everything trying to get away. I couldn't stop laughing.

3 months... becomes 4 months. 4 months... 6 months. 6 months... 1 year.

Ahhh History.... oh how you like to repeat yourself.

How dare they even think of messing around with "perfection"!

I agree... I don't think they would. But I do wonder what things they are currently in "Alpha" testing. Collected queries would not be available to the public but served direct to certain agencies. Baisicly like data mining. As far as google maps are concerned you are exactly right, they would not depend on old satelite photos. However I mention this as how much information is already out there that we do know about... I speculate on the things we don't.

Yup... just what I was thinking. Add to that search data for ammo... UPC scans of ammo... Google maps... And then Google street view for the entry teams to collect intel.

From the Drudge Report... So yeah, I can see the advantage to this for the CDC. But couldn't the same "system" be used for other things as well? Data on searches for "High Capacity Magazines", "AR-15s", etc. or "Obama abuses", "Biased Media", "Civil Rights Abuses", "Constitutional rights", etc. Not trying to go all "Tin Hat" or anything, but having a wealth of data that can be tracked in "real time" and handed to the government... kinda creepy. ================ From Drudge =================== SICK SURVEILLANCE: GOOGLE REPORTS FLU SEARCHES, LOCATIONS TO FEDS Tue Nov 11 2008 15:34:50 ET GOOGLE will launch a new tool that will help federal officials "track sickness". "Flu Trends" uses search terms that people put into the web giant to figure out where influenza is heating up, and will notify the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in real time! GOOGLE, continuing to work closely with government, claims it would keep individual user data confidential: "GOOGLE FLU TRENDS can never be used to identify individual users because we rely on anonymized, aggregated counts of how often certain search queries occur each week." Engineers will capture keywords and phrases related to the flu, including thermometer, flu symptoms, muscle aches, chest congestion and others. Dr. Lyn Finelli, chief of influenza surveillance at CDC: "One thing we found last year when we validated this model is it tended to predict surveillance data. The data are really, really timely. They were able to tell us on a day-to-day basis the relative direction of flu activity for a given area. They were about a week ahead of us. They could be used... as early warning signal for flu activity." Eric Schmidt, GOOGLE's chief executive vows: "From a technological perspective, it is the beginning." Thomas Malone, professor at M.I.T.: "I think we are just scratching the surface of what's possible with collective intelligence." Developing...

To my knowledge... this is the first time I can remember hearing people I work with, and friends actually concerned about fully marxist and socialist ideals being put in place in America. The fact that a large part of this nation is concerned, and are voicing their concerns speaks volumes about not only the president elect's character... but the lack of "vetting" of him or at the very least unbiased reporting during the campaigns.

I would suggest looking over at HKpro.com through the for sale section. Run a couple of searches and that ought to help seeing what others have sold for. I'm not very good at figuring prices. Sorry.

I agree completely. While I did not agree or support his direction in some areas I did in others. The fact that he is having to "pay the price" for just makes him mor popular in my mind. They should all strive to serve with integrity and character... but for a long time now that has fallen by the wayside and been seen as a liability. (This is has also become the case in many other areas in society as well.) This is the change that america needs and wanted... it is not the change that they have just recently voted in. (IMHO)

Hey guys... This is quoted so it wouldn't be missed. You hit it "Suntzu". That small little typed sentence speaks volumes my friend.

Mine... • Oly Lower (Don't laugh, it runs fine.) • A1 Upper (yeah I know... old school) • Heavy Barrel • slip over flash suppressor, cheap o' forward grip and rail • Collapsable stock • Ergo grip (I love this grip!) • Cheap Sling Seeing what ever one else has really makes me want to update mine. maybe get a new Flat top upper and rails one day. I bought the cheap for grip and rial to see if I liked it. Had never used one before. All it did was make me want a better one and more rails! LOL!

It's much easier and profitable for the to simply tax them out of the common man's reach.

This isn't the same but fun all the same... Me and my two boys play "Hide and go shoot" in the house. Usually at night with most the light's turned off, with flashlights and nerf guns. One hides while the other two look. It's a lot of fun. Once some one is "shot" they usually fall to the ground and I drag them through the house on their back while they giggle and laugh. My oldest one time had a toy pump shotgun and before we went in to the bedroom to look for his brother he said "I get this one Dad" and preceeded to pretend to shoot the hinges off and bust in. Hahahaha! I asked him where he learned that... he said "YouTube Dad! I watched a thing on these Bristish guys in masks doing it! Cool huh!" Yes son... very cool!

Read that this morning. Thought it was pretty well thought out. Ironic how Truman was at 22% when he left office.

BWahahaha!!! How do they know... how... do... they know?