Erich

It makes it more real to say out loud. But, a pic they say is worth a thousand words. I have a couple 'real' cut receivers with the go fast switch...and maybe one day if its meant to be it'll be complete like this one....

And it will end up being smaller house than the building plans since part of your loan had to go toward paying for the damn thing.

My last purchase was an HK45CT, but it was to go with its big brother 45 Expert. While they may have differing intended purposes, overtime I have gravitated toward more compacts with barrels around the 4" range. For me, I find them better balanced and comfortable all around shooters (when I am not trying to fit a specific purpose). With typical pistol distances, I don't see a significant sacrifice to accuracy that is due to the average gun itself. Its more shooter discipline and training with shorter sight radius or site types. Alot of folks they are quick to equate full size with more accuracy over smaller versions before considering or adjusting for difference due to features, so it may not be an apples to apples comparison. An inch more barrel doesn't mean much on its own. I think its fair to say "full size" are easier to shoot for most casual situations. Sight radius and reduced flip reducing your having to pay attention or being in practice. That said, for me to consider a full size now, it should have a purpose and be more geared toward competition or accuracy, otherwise it's just wasting steel.

I so relate to that! Its a malady in search of a support group. Problem here is that it seems to feed the addiction.

Mine was a few hours ago. Working thru the rationalization still. I did not buy an original select fire rifle that was NIB. I agonized for for nearly 2 hours over buying or not buying. Price was actually pretty reasonable, though not inexpensive. The last 10 minutes on GB, entered my bid in the box...and no less than 6 times hovered on the bid button. Held back each time by all the reasons I concocted not to. Now I'm rationalizing the non practical aspects and that it was not the actual military version I really would want. Countered with I'll never see one NIB again, made more rare by only 450 having been original select fire guns. The military variant aspect is offset by knowing it would be quite a bit more, which makes its eventual selling price seem like a deal in today's market. At the moment, the remorse over not getting something of a rarity is overwhelming the relief of not spending such a big nut a single gun that I know would not get run full auto much. The seller has my contact info, I asked him to let me know if the buyer does not follow up, though I know that wont probably happen. Hope your regrets pass quickly. Or better yet, you avoid them all together!

Thanks for the follow-up. Glad to hear it was good for you out of the box. I am glad to see Beretta keeping life in the 92 series. And even after all this time, that new items come to to the aftermarket for them. The LTT bar adds some material to the trigger stop and it effects range. All of which I found postive. Having played with all the standard mods over the years, its the first one that I thought, wow. For a $70 part, I'd recommend any Beretta fan to try it at some point. There was a vid out there showing reset, and in trying to find that I ran across a new one where a comparison to the performance S trigger (they appear to offer that as an upgrade part now) was done. Thought you may find interesting. It too shows the effective reset so you can see if its something that appeals to you.

Which is why they ain't getting my money. But as you say that, from what I'm guessing is a dislike of the Austrian polymer wonder, you may be forgetting that when they came out they were the innovators with high capacity in a small package as a main selling feature. I find that last bit the ultimate and most failing irony in their lost in the crowd offering. They seem to have forgotten what brought them to the party me thinks.

And why sell only 3 mags when you can get them to buy 5 for that box of 50 !

That is certainly what most will have you believe using conventional thoughts out there. But if one looks, and not too far, they see the impossible delivered which should make one wonder. Truth is, it just takes engineering and a good design. Which cost money. Which eats into profits, etc etc. Two examples of the impossible that come to mind. My Beretta 92's conversion kit 15 rounds which feed perfectly. And right up top, hipower's reference to the Taurus with its 16 round capacity. 22wmr is not 22lr, but rimiless, But Keltec manages to squeeze 30 of them into a non curved mag. A couple years ago peeps said it was impossible to get more rounds in a micro 9, remember. 7 or 8. But both Sig and SA put more than $20 into R&D of conventional mags and sorted it out.

It just occurred to me that the main reason I'm so opposed to 10 round mags is that I'm emotionally scarred from being in a ban state for so long is that now, my first reaction when I see 10 round anything is to want to stomp on it and throw it in the garbage.

No doubt, that is all that matters. Nothing sucks more than spending big money on a collectible safe queen that doesnt work or isnt fun to shoot. You'll have to update this when you take it out. Its too bad you didnt get one earlier. I had 3 cans (600 rounds) of surplus Greek HXP ammo in the Classifies here for sometime. Its like finding your rifle, timing is everything.

I think we should clarify something as Glock haters are reading this as a Glock lover thing when that isnt it and they are missing the point. Rather its a general 22 thing. I own no 22 semi auto guns (or rifles) that only hold 10. I care less whose name is printed on it. Just because its a standard does not stop it from being nonsense. Its just agreed on nonsense, which much is worse. Folks accepting it overtime are actually part of the problem it perpetuates. It makes as much sense as everyone whacking themselves in the head with a hammer everyday at 3PM because we all agree to do it. How about not doing it because it makes no sense? By that same token, 10 round 22 mags in a full size gun no matter whose name is on the side makes no sense. If someone wants to play the Liberal states rationale. There are plenty of guns sold for compliant states where they stick in the weenie mags in place of their real ones. All makes do it. Why only make the weenie mags the only option for 22?

Technically your barrel is not correct for the receiver, but even if it's a mix master, that's not a bad thing. It's just a value thing.

Cut OP rods have a radius machined into them where the handle meets the saddle that's under the barrel. Else it's a straight 90 degree. Intent was to take out a stress riser. HRA rods usually aren't cut.

One of mine is in that range. Its '55. Some of the barrels could predate by 6 months and still be considered correct. For example, a 55 receiver could have a late 54 barrel. Like G man said, your stamp under the op rod will show you. If it went thru arsenal, it could have a replacement LMR barrel and still be fine. The op rode will be stamped on the inside of the forwad part of the handle. The trigger group parts are next. Some HRA hammers were not stamped iirc. Trigger guards were not stamped either, but your appear to the correct style.

OOOOhhhhhh!! They may not be loved by all, but I am a huge fan of wood and steel service style rifles. Nice! More pics and details!! You need to pop it out of the stock and start looking over the components for appropriate stamps. Even if its not all correct, it looks pretty nice in that one pic. Plenty of online references for serial ranges by maker as well as ID guides documenting markings. CMP forum is a great resource. You can buy a throat and muzzle gauge to check out where the barrel is. I've got a couple HRA service grade specials. I hope you find it all correct.

The (real)10mm round runs higher pressures so the chambers / barrels and related compenents are larger (beefier). In the 10mm and 45ACP Glock world, they have their own larger dedicated frame and slides so they dont blow up the smaller frame/slide bits (which is why they had to go that way after they tried)

The straw for me was both Comcast and At&t dropped Bein sports, which is the only network that works with he various motorcycle racing organizations. A couple years ago we ended up with retaining our At&t fiber internet, pulling out my old OTA HD antennae from 10 years ago, and signing up with Sling TV. Subsidised by a SSD to record the OTA shows. Recently adding a 4k Firestick for no particular reason other than it was on sale for $25. All run thru a last gen Smart TV. Lots of overlaps in functionality, and enough remotes that my wife has no idea what does what. What I found in that time is, cord cuttings is easiest for those that have just a few or limited requirements, dont particular care about whats on. Meaning they stick to a handful of shows on the major networks and dont use to many premium channels. Like anything, you have to fit a use case for it to really make sense. If you had a high level Cable package with premiums included, to match that ala cart, you start approaching the same overall expenditure. And truth be told, most of the non cable alternatives do sacrifice a little bit of stability compared to the more developed cable solutions. When our DVR stream is botched (happens from time to time) I get nasty looks from my wife who says she wants to go back to cable if its a show she likes. The stability is simply a function of living on the bleeding edge of tech. Cord cutting does not have the maturity afforded by Cable solutions have had had 20+ years of sorting out. But it is improving. Cord cutting has changed quite in just 2 years. So many more players and pricing is starting to increase. The draw you in prices are being ramped up as new services are being offered at higher buy in with the promise of delivering more. The savings margin is still there is you are very simple in your needs. But the delta is closed up a bit. Its interesting to note, that the major network consolidation and buyouts are having an effect. And its in no small part to them being aware of consumer frustration and cord cutting. Their weapon is pulling contracts or raising prices to the alternative service providers to allow them their content. That is part of the reason the prices are increasing. Or in some cases, loosing content on the cord cutting end. Case in point, Sling until last month offered NBC OnDemand. Comcast, who owns NBC said...hey....no way, you have to show us the money because peeps are ditching our BS boxes. Sling told them to go take a hike. So now, you no longer see those offered on on their service, and Fox's parent company did the same with them. Sling on the down low removed both from the menu. You pay the same as a result, just lost content for those handful of times the OTA DVR recording is messed up. Now consider that Disney is trying to buy the world, trying to end around the FCC regs of one company not owning more than one network....ABC and Fox, Marvel....its going to be interesting. Long way to say....enjoy it while you can. Big Money is not happy about lost profits and is going to make it harder in the future.

Man, I thought everyone in the surrounding states were good ole boys. Guess not. Disheartening to see libtard governors taking strongholds. Sadly we need to realize that the Republican offerings are poor and they need to evolve if we want to preserve freedoms. Add Washington state to the list. AG put up a number of bills has he has in past years, but first time the gov is backing them. They hare using the CA playbook. Bans on guns, nags, and ammo.

Howdy from the other side of Town. Nice to see more folks out here in the stix

Thanks for the review Ken. Its good to get some thoughts that don't come from the main review sites. I had a couple questions as I have a few Beretta's and was considering one. Had you used Vertec frames in the past and liked them? What did you think of the trigger feel and reset and have you had a chance to play with it's adjustments? Have you tried the Langdon Optimized trigger bar in any of your other 92's? Myself I've was not too fond of the Vertec as I was getting some beavertail bite and it was a hair smallish. Probably should have tried it longer, but after so many miles on the standard grip.... I love the Langdon trigger bar even with its quirk of rubbing the right grip. Its pretty much transformative. Unbelievably so. Am curious how their advertised 40% reduction equates and any other tricks they may have thrown in which may effect trigger feel.

Pretty much this!!! That was where my money was. 10mm is in vogue and theirs is looooong in the tooth. I put my 20C top end one of my RTF2 SF frames....with this kind of offering, that's probably as good as it will get.

I want to like most everything that goes bang. I am sure it has a market. I'll never quite understand the moratorium on realistic capacity mags for anything .22, That to me is where they could have provided a nod to us who are jaded and looking for a reason to justify it. I don't see a feature setting it apart from the competition. Its squarely aimed at Glock fans or users who are not fond of Glock conversion kits for training (retaining the 5.5 to 6 lb Glock trigger). Missed opportunities in my opinion. Not sure who all was involved in the vid. But seems that this gun is mostly for girls. https://www.armytimes.com/video/2019/12/13/a-first-look-at-the-new-glock-44-gearscout-guide/

IIRC, the 21 was an off shoot of the 20 vs the other other way around. It was built big for the pressures. And they just relieved the 10mm parts to get the bigger opening for the 45 and had enough meat left to make the lower pressure 45 OK.

Is it me or is this thread somewhat timely as we are full on in Black Friday week? Sadly I found it too late to curb my compulsion this go round. I appreciate the sobering thoughts. For transplants who lived it restricted states, the first year or two of the open firearm buffet seems to shut down your awareness and logic. A few months ago I was able to rein it in and was picking thru things to thin. I dabbled. But I still keep walking up to the buffet line because its there and I can still walk. With resolution season just ahead, its a good reminder that staying lean applies to a good many more things.