Gabe Suarez on caliber choice.

[Smith]

XD-45, Glock 21, M&P 45...

Good guns all. they are just TOO big to carry for me. I could see them as good combat guns though.

[TGO David]

Good guns all. they are just TOO big to carry for me. I could see them as good combat guns though.

Very true. I wanted badly to like my Glock 21SF but just couldn't make myself. I still want either an HK45, HK45C or an M&P 45 Mid Size.

Maybe one day soon.

[nightrunner]

XD-45 13+1

G21 13+1

M&P45 10+1

none of those are 14+1 or more. they are double stack but not 14+1 or more.

[TGO David]

XD-45 13+1

G21 13+1

M&P45 10+1

none of those are 14+1 or more. they are double stack but not 14+1 or more.

Yeah, but you're splitting hairs.

[nightrunner]

only because i was already well aware of those. and he said 14+1 or 15+1. actually i dont know of a 15+1 unless its a custom 2011 frame with a extended magazine like a G18 mag on a G17.

[10Kilr]

Got the newsletter today, usually has some good info included. The mentioned article has some good points. I also found this article that reiterates the fact that a .45 is not always a show stopper.

A Warrior's Sacrifice - lawofficer.com#

Carry what you can shoot accurately and efficiently. Many times the folks carrying a .45 need to downsize.

[timcalhoun]

Para has a bunch of 14+1 45's and My STI 4 inch with the right followers are 15+1. And my STI is not a custom gun and does not have an extended mag.

[Oh Shoot]

Who can fault Gabe's point of view.

After all, he sells this:

Don't Shoot Me Banner - DSM-CCW

[TGO David]

Wait... what?

[bvarnell]

It's certainly easier to spot than a handgun carry badge.

Wait! How about if you attach your handgun carry badge on it. Then you'll be double safe.

[Jonsaiga]

Good common sense article, like most of the stuff coming out of SI. As far as the whole issue of Mr. Suarez's credibility or what have you over his worker's comp stuff...... he isn't offering or promoting financial or income earning advise. So I don't think it has any bearing as to what he has to offer in the area of teaching weapons and tactics. As for the CCW banner... so what?? Are there not any other companies out there offering some things you don't like, or just think is silly, but have other worth decent while products or info? Do you discount everything else they sell or promote because of it?? He has a gear store and is trying to make money. If their is a market for it, then folks will buy it. If ya don't like it, then don't buy it. That simple really.

[TGO David]

As far as the whole issue of Mr. Suarez's credibility or what have you over his worker's comp stuff...... he isn't offering or promoting financial or income earning advise. So I don't think it has any bearing as to what he has to offer in the area of teaching weapons and tactics.

I don't know about you, but a man's moral character and sense of ethics plays heavily into whether I will give much value to anything coming out of his mouth.

[Guest pharmtecher]

I don't know about you, but a man's moral character and sense of ethics plays heavily into whether I will give much value to anything coming out of his mouth.

Well if you are ever charged with a crime then you will have to sell this website since you are a criminal.

[TGO David]

Well if you are ever charged with a crime then you will have to sell this website since you are a criminal.

Just a thought for you... A guy who swings from Yeager's balls shouldn't really pop off to much about matters of ethics or moral character.

[Metalhead]

Just a thought for you... A guy who swings from Yeager's balls shouldn't really pop off to much about matters of ethics or moral character.

Ouch!

[E4 No More]

Ok, who's Yeager, and why is he allowing people to swing from his balls?

[Guest pharmtecher]

Just a thought for you... A guy who swings from Yeager's balls shouldn't really pop off to much about matters of ethics or moral character.

Wow man you cry alot. Just because someone goes to a training school you do not like. You are also changing the subject. You pop off alot on the internet so I would not point fingers.

[Seaslug]

Well if you are ever charged with a crime then you will have to sell this website since you are a criminal.

^ = 9mm...

Just a thought for you... A guy who swings from Yeager's balls shouldn't really pop off to much about matters of ethics or moral character.

^ = .45 ACP. See, there IS a difference...

[Guest pharmtecher]

This thread is awesome. It really goes with the thread topic.

[TGO David]

This thread is awesome. It really goes with the thread topic.

As if your contribution to the thread so far has really helped?

And yes, if I'm ever convicted of a felony then that will diminish my credibility and ability to offer training on matters of legal importance to people. The same as it would if I got into a firefight in Iraq and did several catastrophically stupid things that contributed to the deaths of member of my security detail.

Oh, wait. Scratch that last one. Apparently it's not a career limiting move.

Edited August 4, 2009 by TGO David

[Smith]

Well at least you headed my request it did not let this turn into a caliber debate!:rofl: Seaslug...... that was actually funny!

[Guest pharmtecher]

As if your contribution to the thread so far has really helped?

And yes, if I'm ever convicted of a felony then that will diminish my credibility and ability to offer training on matters of legal importance to people. The same as it would if I got into a firefight in Iraq and did several catastrophically stupid things that contributed to the deaths of member of my security detail.

Oh, wait. Scratch that last one. Apparently it's not a career limiting move.

You are a jackass. Gabe did not have a felony.

[Jonsaiga]

I don't know about you, but a man's moral character and sense of ethics plays heavily into whether I will give much value to anything coming out of his mouth.

I can agree with that but at the same time, given his side of the story, I personally don't see that he has done anything unmoral or unethical. He was acting in good faith in that what he was doing was legal. He wasn't acting maliciously, trying to swindle money or run a scam. He was openly training people to better defend themselves after checking with his WC lawyer and DR. Yet people act as if he was out there selling crack to school kids or something.

[Metalhead]

Yea, clue me in too.

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/general-off-topic/22725-please-dont-shoot-photographer.html

and

James Yeager is Scum!

Sum it up as well as anything. Lots of other threads on the board though, just use the search up top.

[Smith]

Yea, clue me in too.

Search is your friend.