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Any idea where the class is to be held? The map on the website points to the Preston Hotel.

  yeah, I'll run right out and do that, LOL after I win the lottery

I never understood the near vitriol with which some people hate Nickelback. I think their music is catchy and fun to listen to. Admittedly, many of their songs sound alike, but I didn't hold that against AC/DC or Metallica or Pink Floyd or a slew of others, so I son't hold it against them either. If you're a hater then hate or flame on or whatever you do, though...don't mind me. :hiding:

the pic I thought I inserted with TapaTalk, but didn't, LOL

I got this idea from a link that another TGO member (thanks NoBanStan) sent me. So, I had to try it and they turned out pretty good, IMO.

I've only had to send 2 guns back to the factory in all my years. One was the XD-s recall that I still think was a non-issue. They kept my d@mn gun for almost 3 months. The other was my S&W M&P 15-22. My extractor blew off and was lost at the range one day. S&W replaced my entire BCG and had my gun back in my hands in JUST over 2 weeks. Their customer service dept is a class act.

  Does "Buy a CZ" count?

I had to run on off last year at my house. It looked like it was trying root up under my foundation. I was surprised how fast they could dig. It did a lot of damage before I was able to urge him to go wreck someone else's yard. I can't shoot one in my residential neighborhood, so next time I'm trying the machete.

I thought I wanted a magnifier with my Vortex red dot too until I tried it.   -Without magnification it looks like covering a tennis ball sized target with a tennis ball sized dot.  -With magnification it looks like covering a volleyball sized target with a volleyball sized dot.   On the other hand, I don't like the idea of a scope on a HD rifle. My first choice would be holographic sight. My second choice would be a green laser and BUIS.

I only mentioned it because to me it looked like it might be misaligned by too much for him to be able to turn the barrel nut enough to line up the retaining screw without damaging our misaligning the gas tube. I see what you mean, though.

It looks like the barrel nut has gas tube holes, so you you clearly had to time the gas tube to get it through the barrel nut. I don't see how it could be anything but the mfg drilled the hole off center. I can't imagine you could turn the barrel nut enough to compensate and still line up the gas tube. I'd send the rail back and insist that they pay return shipping.

I agree 100%. I also have a hard time reaching the slide release on a Mossberg with a pistol grip. The beauty of a Mossberg with a stock is that safety, trigger and slide release are optimally located.

I haven't owned a computer in years. I use one at work, but at home all I have is a Gen 3 iPad. It sits in a handy little Logitech bluetooth keyboard cradle, so I don't have to use the onscreen keyboard. I miss not having a mouse sometimes, but more for the right-click than the pointing accuracy. I kind of got used to making the quick un-pinching motion on the screen before I tap a link. It's so easy and I'm so used to it that I can do that almost as fast as I could click with a mouse.

For me, the ergonomics is the first thing I noticed. Like the CZ 75 series, the 97 has that nattural point of aim that I love. The way the grip fees in my hand is the 2nd thing I noticed. I don't know whaat the actual circumferences are, ,so I can only go by how they feel to me. With the thin aluminum grips a CZ 97 doesn't feel any bigger in my hand than a 1911. The P220, on the other hand, feels about as girthy as a Glock 21 in my hand. I found myself having to readjust my grip more after each round with the P220. I think it needs some checkering or something. It could also be that for even for a single stack, it's just too wide for my hands. edit: I forgot to mention...I'm a huge fan of decockers. CZ put theirs in the perfect spot and it works much easier. The P220 is too much of a reach for my thumb. Add the long vertical range of motion and I just can't operate it well with my strong hand.

After giving 1911s a fair shake and trying my best to like the P220 grip, I got a 97 BD. I'm glad I did. I wish they'd make P-01 size version.

Lots of gun owners refer to a break-in period (first couple hundred rounds or so). I don't believe in it, myself. In fact one of my friends seats his 9mm reloads to near the max length and I reload mine about halfway between the min and max. Neither of us have cycling issues in our CZs even when they're new. I think a CZ trigger feels a little gritty out of the box. It doesn't affect reliability, though and it does go away quickly as the fire control group parts get some wear. I recommend using a snap cap and dry fire the problem away before your first range trip.

It's stories like this that make me realize how lucky I am to live in TN. Our gun laws are definitely not perfect, but they could clearly be worse. I hope this failed policy in MD was extremely costly for the state's taxpayers, because they elected the idiots that passed the law. Stupidity SHOULD be expensive.

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say reloading is fun, but it's definitely satisfying. If I ever stop feeling a sense of independence and satisfaction from ammo that I didn't have to go buy, it'll be a sad day for me and a lonely future for my reloading equipment. Until then, even if I only break even on cost, I'm still getting something out of it that I can't get by driving to Walmart.

I thought they were awesome looking guns with some cool features. I just can't see any justification for that price. I could do a lot of damage in a gun store with the money it'd take to buy one and walk out with at least 3 guns on my wish list that I'd like more.

There's nothing like an all metal gun with a SA/DA trigger and an hammer. I'm biased, but I think the CZ 75 is the closest model to getting it perfect. Have you shot it yet? That's when you'll be the most pleased with your decision.

Here's and example of how I shop for reloading. Buy real cheap bullets in bulk $80/1000 with free shipping. Bullseye powder from Outpost Armory $22/lb Winchester primers from DLM at gun show by the case last fall $134. Tula is even cheaper by the case. I recover my own brass plus some extras at the range and this is a fun hobby for me, so my labor is free. So, powder = $00.05, bullet = $00.08, and primer = $00.03 for each bullet. At 16 cents per bullet a box would cost me $8. I haven't been able to find this Perfecta ammo in stock for $7/box and hate depending on Walmart for my ammo supply, so I'm good with reloading.

  leave it to HBO and they'll "gay it all up" every time

I'm with you 100% on UTG! I put a drop-in super slim handguard on my M&P Sport and loved it so much that I put the 15" free float on my last AR build. It was also awesome, so I didn't hesitate to pick the 13" rail for my AR pistol (10.5" w/ 3.25" linear comp). It looks fantastic and I love how light and yet strong it is. I got their 11mm to picatinny adapter for my sister's .22 rifle, because it has 3 tightening screws to keep her scope from moving. It worked so good that I put one of their QD one-pc scope mounts on my &P 15-22 to hold my 3-9X30 scope. I know it's just a rimfire, but that thing is rock-solid. The guy at their booth said their new rails will be available soon. THey have picatinny at the front and rear of the handguard and a smaller ridged section between without picatinny. It looks even sleeker and will probably be even lighter.

There's some mega-giant forums out there on the Net and they didn't have booths either. Maybe that's too much to ask.

Aside from the friends (netmindr and NoBanStan) I went there with, I didn't see one single TGO person that I recognized. We need a better way to represent! They really did a great job putting this together. The maps were right, the layout was brilliant, the venue was big enough for all 15-20K people to enjoy themselves without feeling overly crowded, and the people working were nice, friendly, and helpful. I can't wait to go back tomorrow, even though I'm sore and tired from all the walking/standing. Note to self: desk jobs make you soft.