Grayfox54

I don't think I'd buy anything. I've had plenty of opportunities to shoot many different full auto weapons over the years. Everything from Army issue to toys belonging to friends. Always a ton of fun, but never really wanted one. Its hard to find places to shoot them and I couldn't afford to feed 'em. Kinda like that little blond in your dreams. Nice to play with, but I wouldn't want to own her.

I saw an adjustable sighted Practical Model at Classic Arms in Memphis this morning. Looks to be in excellent condition. But asking price is $1599!

Ok, if you followed my AR thread you know that to get the best accuracy I'm gonna have to start reloading 5.56 ammo. I can get dies. I have plenty of OF brass. I have SR primers in stock and I see that there's a pretty good supply of bullets out there now. The big question is powders? What are the best powders for this caliber and are they readily available? I'll likely go with 55-62 gr bullets for the 1/9 twist M&P. But I also want to try some heavier 75-77 gr bullets for the slower 1/7 Colt. Any pet loads to share or recommendations?

The thing is that I picked this particular model of the M&P because I wanted the Magpul furniture which came factory on it. Not sure I wanna change it either. I do like it. IDK, maybe I just felt like griping. Maybe I should just lower my expectations. These days nothing is as good as it once was. Why should a run of the mill AR be any different? After 50 years of hearing that the AR-15 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I guess I just expected too much. I do believe I'm gonna try an Accu-wedge. They're cheap and it couldn't hurt. I'll also try to hunt up some 75-77 gr ammo to try in the Colt. And sooner or later I will have to start reloading 5.56 once components have gotten more available. I will be looking for advice there too. In fact, I think I'll start a new thread on that. Meanwhile, I guess I'll just try to live with it.

The thing is that I don't want to spend much money or go changing a bunch of parts. Remember, I'm not really an AR guy. Just a little frustrated with the ones I have as I think they should shoot better than they do. I have no desire to make any changes in the Colt. Its a range toy and I like it the way it is. Besides, I understand it has some collectability and I don't want to mess with that. I did put a LaRue trigger in the M&P. That helped. But I've spent a fair bit of money in scope, mount, BUIS and such already. I'm hesitant to put any more money into it. And here is where my lack of knowledge really starts to show. I know nothing about twist rates in these things. I checked and the Colt is 1/7 while the M&P is 1/9. So what bullet weights should I be looking at? To be completely blunt here, I'm not a fan of the AR-15. I never liked the M-16 when I was in the Army and I put off buying an AR for more than 40 years. The only reason I own these is because the antis don't want me to have them and I got 'em at a pretty decent price at the time. IF the S should ever HTF, I'm going right past these poodle shooters and grabbing my M1A Scout Squad. That's a real battle rifle to me.

Has anybody tried the accu-wedge? Did it help? If so, how much?

One of my issues is that I do not reload 5.56. I got my first AR a couple of years ago right when the ammo situation started going to Hell. Its been enough of a problem finding components for the calibers I already reload, that I haven't even bought dies for the 5.56. Just don't need the headaches of a new caliber right now. So I'm pretty much at the mercy of the market for my ARs. The majority of ammo I use is either mil-surp or cheap bulk stuff. Honestly, I haven't even been able to settle on a particular bullet weight or style for these rifles yet. I have bought a few boxes of premium ammo here and there as I find it. But so far there hasn't been any noticeable difference in accuracy. That's one of the reasons I started this thread. The truth is that the only reason I own these rifles is because there are so many people saying I shouldn't be able to own one. I'm kinda stubborn that way.

Ok, let me put it this way. Is the 2-3" groups at 100 yards considered normal for these two rifles? Should I expect better? The Colt is really more of a nostalgia piece for me. Other than the A2 rear sight, its pretty close to what Uncle Sam handed me back in 1972. That's really why I own it. Its basically just a range toy. I usually do shoot it with open sights. But I do have a carry handle mount and a cheap 4X scope I put on from time to time. Honestly, it doesn't fit that well and tends to work loose after a while. So I don't use it much. The S&W has a 1-4X variable scope and is always shot using it. This one I consider a defensive rifle. Like I said, ARs really aren't my thing. I don't know the tricks you builders do. I'm just curious if there are some fairly simple things I can do to improve mine without spending a lot of money or replacing parts. Am I to understand that simply re-torqueing the barrel could make a real difference? But back to the original question: What does it take to get a sub-MOA rifle, recommendations and how much should it cost?

Ok, this is more about curiosity than anything else. So bear with me. I'm not really an AR kinda guy. I do own two. A 16" S&W M&P 15 and a 20" Colt Sporter Match. Both are combat accurate. Meaning 2-3" at 100 yards with mil-surp ammo. BTW: I'm pretty much limited to a max of 100 yards for my shooting as I never got around to qualifying at longer distances. The thing is that I grew up on hunting and target rifles and In my mind anything over 1 MOA just ain't cutting it. Less is better. So, what does it take to get a sub MOA AR-15? I'm talkin' one small raged 1/2" or less hole at 100 yards. Is this purely a build proposition or are there factory rifles that can do this? And how much should such a rifle cost? Again, I'm not saying I'll run out and buy one, I'm just curious. BTW: I'm a big fan of Springfield Armory. Kinda thinking a Saint. Opinions? Is that good enough? And shouldn't my Colt shoot better than that? It is a Match HBAR version after all. Can I improve it?

Yep, my hammers nail 'em!

I'm surprised it hasn't sold. I have one and they're great little pocket guns. And at this price, shoulda been long gone by now.

I had to stop and think about this. With handguns I'm mostly a revolver and 1911 kinda guy. I realize that almost none of my handguns are striker fired. Even the "hammerless" models are actually just hidden hammers. Ok, wait a minute, I got a couple of pocket .25s that are striker fired. I guess that counts.

I know a lady who works for St. Jude Hospital. It seems that they hire a lot of brand new, freshly minted PHDs for their various research programs. These are mid to late 20s who have spent their entire lives as professional students. They have no idea how to live in the real world. The lady I know is their coordinator. She's basically a "Momma" figure. She helps them find a place to live, get moved into town, buy a car, learn to pay bills, organize expenses, etc and so on. Many also come to her for personal and romantic advice. She loves the job and taking care of her "kids". But does get a bit frustrated as how difficult it is for them to handle everyday life.

HOLY CHIT! I hope they catch that idiot!

I have one on a Buckmark and frankly, when bringing the pistol up to eye level, I have a devil of a time trying to find the dot. Is there some trick to this I'm missing? I'll also mention that I'm a big fan of the KISS principle and ain't much for adding extra do-hickies to my carry guns.

PM sent.

I once dated a woman who had 2 PHDs. She may have been highly educated, but that poor gal was dumb as a box of rocks.

For the record: other than a poor choice in mates, I have nothing against Jill Biden. I hope she comes through this with minimum trouble.

I'm afraid that you are very out of date. For several decades now, the "Golden Rule" has been them that have the gold make the rules. This is how government has worked throughout at least my lifetime. I am a Christian. I try to live by God's word. However, I readily admit that I'm not a particularly good one. I do have some rather un-christian moments from time to time. However, I make great effort to not be a hypocrite. To me, that's the worst sin of all. And many churches are filled with it.

Memphis tried 2 buy backs years ago. I went to both with cash in hand and came home empty handed. Nothing but total junk. Nothing worth buying. However, I did turn in a RG-22 that only worked on 3 cylinders for $75 worth of gas and grocery gift certificates. BTW: one was across the parking lot on the same day as a gun show. The buy back took in 26 POS guns and the gun show attracted over 5000 visitors.

How does it hold up to the heat of firing?

The problem with these woke folks is that they're constantly out there looking for new problems to whine and cry about. They're like a bunch of kids running around with a stick in hand looking for a new bear to poke.