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[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1352233064' post='840239'] FOX News on the TV is about all I'll pay attention to, other than Drudge. There are too many places to choose from. [/quote] I have become somewhat addicted to flipping back and forth between Fox and MSNBC. If Romney wins, I'll probably watch a lot of MSNBC for a couple days, just gotta see the dejection of Sharpton, Matthews, Shultz, Maddow, etc. That would be a thrill up MY leg! - OS

I will log into TGO to see how many members are missing due to spontaneous cranial combustion.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352259834' post='840664'] The country deserves what it gets. [/quote] I've always said that. You have to fight for the big issues. Side tracked again by gays, race and vaginas.

It's funny... I see a lot of moderating going on here, but no Moderators are doing it. Maybe let the Moderators do it?

Another reason election day should be a holiday so everyone is off to go vote and you have to stick your finger in ink that woud not wear off for 2-3 days

If you're Obama, you win no matter what happens in the polls. He'll be working the rubber chicken circuit, making bank, protected by the Secret Service on our dime, for the rest of his life. Honestly if I were him, I'd want to lose the election just so I could get started with that.

I haven't read this whole thread and I'm not gonna... but I had a neat idea. If Obama wins, I want to see a bunch of middle aged, over-weight, balding white guys looting the Quickie Stop on MLK Blvd. Kicking in the windows and stuffing the back seat of their bimmer with cases of frappuccino and Gardetto's. Some others gasping for breath on the verge of a heart attack about a block away because that's as far as they could carry the case of diet coke. That would f-ing ROCK! That is all. Carry on.

[quote name='Flatwoods Forge' timestamp='1352236155' post='840291'] Ill be turning in applications, still trying to find a job that isn't construction labor. Doesnt really matter who wins or loses this time, all we are doing is voting the lesser of two evils. [/quote] Remember you said that 10-20 years down the road after the BHO loaded Supreme Court has crimped your style. Not to mention all the lesser federal judge appointments that may affect it first. - OS

Obama is off to an early lead...though it is expected to diminish as republicans get off work!

I early voted. My wife received her US citizenship a few months ago and today was able to vote for the first time here in the US. She said that everyone clapped when she cast her ballot.

[color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] On a sunny day late in January 2013...[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] An old man approached the White House from Across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, 'I would like to go in and meet with President 0bama.'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The Marine looked at the man and said, 'Sir, Mr. 0bama is no longer president and no longer resides here. The old man said, 'Okay' and walked away.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, 'I would like to go in and meet with President 0bama.'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The Marine again told the man, 'Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. 0bama is no longer president and no longer resides here.'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The man thanked him and, again, just walked away. The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U.S. Marine, saying 'I would like to go in and meet with President 0bama.'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, 'Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. 0bama. I've told you already that Mr. 0bama is no longer the president and no longer resides here. Don't you understand?'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The old man looked at the Marine and said, 'Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.'[/size][/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, 'Yes, Sir, see you tomorrow, Sir.'[/size][/font][/color]

For me, my day tomorrow will go as each day does...I'll go to work, earn some money, pay some bills, read some, watch some TV and play with my cat and my dog then go to bed and repeat the same thing on Thursday and on Friday. If Romney wins, as I expect he will, I'll be doing all this things with a renewed hope that this country may begin the slow, slow, process of stopping our headlong plunge over the financial and socialist cliff and start to turn back toward liberty and freedom and personal responsibility. If Obama wins then I truly believe that the country our founders gave us will be lost as we'll continue to spend trillions of dollars we don't have...leave Americans to die without help and without repercussions...punish achievers so that we can reward the inept and lazy...dole out "justice" at the whim of unscrupulous, morally bankrupt people...and call our friends enemies and our enemies, "friends"; all done, of course, in the name of "fairness" and "equality". At least at my age I can be pretty sure I won't be around long enough to see the worst of it.

It is discouraging to read, even on this forum, that so many are given to the notion that who is president makes so much difference. Granted, with BO it DOES make a difference, because he has no qualms about bypassing congress or the Constitution. But with most presidents it really doesn't, nor should it. What's more important is who we elect to the Senate and House. With enough Tea Party and Constitutionalist members, I believe Romney can be pulled to the right. BO can not, as he has demonstrated multiple times. Economically, Romney knows what the gov needs to do (get out of the way) to get businesses hiring. BO doesn't care. His goal is to bring the US down a few notches. And he has been successful. So when R wins today, I'll improve my outlook about the future. But I harbor no illusions that all is peachy. Tomorrow we are going to have to get started keeping him and our senators and representatives on a short leash and make sure they do what is in the best interest of the country and not in the best interest of their reelection or which cocktail parties they're invited to in DC. Will that happen? It never has in the past, but I really do think that BO has caused such a backlash that we are starting to see more and more paying attention. I just hope it lasts. From that perspective, I'm kind of glad that BO beat McCain in '08. With McCain, we'd still be plodding down the same road we've been on for 100 years. With BO stomping the gas pedal to the floor, it woke up many sleeping passengers. Will

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1352264655' post='840788'] Congratulations, and enjoy your JD. [/quote] Thanks, but I only made a prediction based upon Romney's actions and words. Obama is still a disappointment and the people still have work to do. I hope that we can do it without being ugly to one another. This country deserves better from our leaders and representatives.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352262169' post='840737'] Y'all give it a rest. Obama won. Enjoy [/quote] Good point. Now, the GOP has got to examine itself. The demographics are going to continue to change and the GOP is going have to make women and minorities feel welcomed into the party. I'm not saying give up core beliefs or values. I'm saying make all Americans feel welcomed into the party, stop the gay bashing, hate only those who warrant hatred, and stay out of a woman's bloomers. ECONOMY, SECURITY AND EDUCATION will equal PROSPERITY!

We still have some hope, it's not... quite over yet. [size=2]I hate California.[/size]

The country deserves what it gets.

[quote name='G27ATT' timestamp='1352257821' post='840612'] I think they'd most likely communicate with dogs or wolves. Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2 [/quote] This sounds exactly like my sister in law.

You seem to have omitted the scantily clad models...

Awe man, all I got was a sticker!

[quote name='101' timestamp='1352225676' post='840119'] Paid my dues. Meaning myself and others like me have deposited a form of payment to their Country. We now have a special interest in what happens in this Country. The work never ends. The dues never expire. All citizens work is never done. [/quote] I have two honorable discharges, volunteered during Vietnam, and served my country as a Police Officer. If any of that matters. I can only speak for myself, but I was very well trained. Trained well enough to know that if I have a "gut feeling" something was wrong I acted on it. Disarming a person that you feel is a possible danger is for his safety also. It keeps you from having to kill him if he does something stupid, and it reduces his chances of shooting you while you are dealing with the ticket, accident, arrest, whatever. Bad people shoot cops on traffic stops and Police Officers will never (Hopefully) be required to wait until guns are pulled to act.

[quote name='kieefer' timestamp='1352220868' post='840063'] When BHO loses I'll also have a sigh of relief that our country hasn't gone down the tubes. IF he wins my cranium won't combust but I'll be depressively disappointed. After 4yrs of Romney IF he hasn't done what he said he was going to do, at least on the big issues, then I will vote him out too. Life goes on. The next fight will be in 2014 with 33 of the 100 seats in the Senate being contested. I hope everyone will remember what we went through in 2008 when it comes for that time to vote.[/quote] Amen...anyone who things "it's over" if Romney wins would be a fool. Restoring and protecting our republic is a job that never ends nor is it a spectator sport - we can't let up on the pressure just because Obama gets replaced. Individual people CAN make a difference but ONLY if they engage themselves in the process.

One of the things I've noticed about some firearm enthusiasts is that some seem to have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to LEOs. We all know there are "bad cops" out there who will stomp all over our "rights" and/or who on on some kind of power trip but whether the LEO is right or wrong, the side of the road is NEVER the place for such things to be decided. Statements like "[i]Where in the Constitution does it say my rights can be trampled on so someone who knowingly accepted a dangerous job could feel all warm and fuzzy[/i]?" reflect an attitude that will, in my opinion, not serve one well long-term no matter how many times one has been pulled over with no problems...[b][i]yet[/i][/b].

[quote name='Seabeejason' timestamp='1352213195' post='839973']I have to fly to Chicago tomorrow afternoon. I told my boss I wasn't sure if it was a good idea to be sending me to Obama's back yard the day after he loses the election. Seriously, I'm not too happy about it. I won't have my side arm or even a damn pocket knife. Nope, not happy at all.........[/quote] I sidestepped a trip to Detroit this week. I can relate a little. Wear a scuba mask so you don't drown in Oprah's tears.

I will do the same thing I have done for many years and thats put my pants on one leg at a time.

Yeah, none of the above is a great choice. You've decided not to vote, but in a cool, edgy way. Gotcha.

Oh, I know who I am voting for. I am voting for Gary Johnson. It is no longer enough for me to vote against someone. I'm sick of pinching my nose to vote and then still being left with a bad taste in my mouth afterwards. Voting for the major parties is reminiscent of being a prison bitch. You don't want what either one wants to give you; all you get is a choice of which one is going to #### you. Either way you are left with a sore ass.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352178544' post='839884'] I don't think that Romney is evil. I just don't believe that he is anymore a man of his word than Obama. With that being said, none of it matters at this point in the game. The point of no return is less than 24 hours away.[/quote] I would say the point of no return passed decades ago. We're just riding this ship down to the bottom at this point. Speaking of ships, this showed up on my fb and I think it sums the situation up nicely. "Voting for Obama is like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg a second time. Voting for Romney is like the Titanic backing up and hitting a different iceberg. "

He should have two terms. The one he has served and one in prison!

This may be a good site to watch... [url="http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/"]http://www.politico....President/2012/[/url]

I have been on Atkins low carb diet since February of this year. Lost 60 lbs. I have been pretty strict but I decided to buy some Ben and Jerry's Half Baked ice cream for tonight. The reason why I am going to break my diet is: A) to celebrate RR's victory to throw a pity party if it goes the other way Either way I can wait it eat the ice cream! Yum !! Yum !!

Looks like we better stock.up fellers. Its gonna be a long 4 years and dome stiff drinks will be needed.

[quote name='CZ9MM' timestamp='1352260355' post='840686'] Although I believe the following quote is "debunked" as to have come from any of our founding fathers, I still personally believe it is true to our current society regardless of who said it: [b][i][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(252, 252, 204)]A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury.[/background][/size][/font][/color][/i][/b] [/quote] Paraphrase from Alexis de Tocqueville. Check him out, pretty fascinating guy. He also coined "we get the government we deserve". - OS

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352263065' post='840761'] Nope! We'll be fine. [/quote] Sadly, no.

Far out. Megan goes halfway across Fox building to interview the guys in the Decision Desk Room about their decision to call Ohio in response to Rove's ranting. Boy she really is one fine lookin' dame....don't get to see her walking around much. - OS

[quote name='jtmaze' timestamp='1352262448' post='840742'] ITEOTWAWKI!!! [/quote] Nope! We'll be fine.

[quote name='Jonnin' timestamp='1352262043' post='840729'] AP has obama at 230 with 55 coming from CA soon. BUT the ap at least has called several states that have less than 5% difference and less than 75% counted..... Its not over, but its not looking good. [/quote] Boy are you behind. Was called at 11:15.

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1352243429' post='840395'] It's just a matter of time before another luxury will be given to the deadbeats, and we will get to pay for that also. Probably one of those gummitt owned Chevy Volts that don't sell on the free market. [/quote] So if I quit working I could keep my home, get food stamps, health care, two Volts and a couple of phones for me and the wife? Pardon me, I have some thinking to do.

I'm pretty sure that at least in some states now, it is illegal for a citizen to video/audio record a police officer at all...I guess that's what some cities think is an appropriate response to lawsuits.

[quote name='Flatwoods Forge' timestamp='1352236155' post='840291']...Doesnt really matter who wins or loses this time, all we are doing is voting the lesser of two evils.[/quote] I'm really sick to death of hearing the parroted phrase "lessor of two evils" as if it actually means something ...putting policy/political differences aside, I see nothing in Romney's life that justifies labeling him as "evil".

Background is distracting. Close as you can go and soften the background (either lens bokeh or blur tool in post processing).

Personally, I'd like to know the legality of placing someone in handcuffs without ANY probable cause of them committing a crime. In my day as a LEO it would be considered a violation of their civil rights. Being an asshat is not necessarily a crime. Contempt of cop is also not a crime.

Cuomo, thorugh executive order, just allowed New Yorkers to vote with just an affidavit. No ID or anything else proving they are who they are is required. They said they need to follow up to verify who they are later or their vote will not count. But if votes are annonymous how is this possible? I guess the person with the affidavit could vote for Obama then when questioned later he can say he voted for Romney. Two votes from a single person. Dolomite

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352222598' post='840085'] The law allows them to disarm you for their safety in this state. Their choice, not yours. [/quote] Agreed. My bad, I veered away from original topic. I was talking about a multitude of problems with cops than disarming. If the law gives them that ability, which it does, then they can follow it. If we don't like that law, we get the law changed.

[quote name='MacGyver' timestamp='1352216014' post='840006'] ...Remember, that regardless of who you plan to vote for today, American soldiers have bled and died to give you that privilege. [/quote] I wonder how many of those soldiers won't get their vote counted this year. - OS

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1352175960' post='839847'] Exactly! And if Romney doesn't get Obamacare repealed, he will have aided and abetted and will have sunk us. I will be his loudest critic. [/quote] I only expect Romney to modify Romneycare. He won't repeal his baby.

[quote name='strickj' timestamp='1352158737' post='839619'] Laugh it up. At least I provided a backing instead of just laughing at you. [b]If my numbers are wrong then provide the correct numbers.[/b] I'll not hold my breath waiting on Fox news to say something negative about their poster child. [/quote] Actually, salvaging your one misbegotten vote is not worth more than 100 posts. Take your biased wiki-facts and check the context. What was the job loss in Massachusetts prior to Romney? What was the job loss after Romney? You don't know. It's pertinent. You didn't check. That makes you ignorant in the original meaning of ignorant. What's more, you are willfully ignorant. You were presented with facts. You ignored them. You know what your own mind is, additional facts to the contrary. It seems that your desire to be right over-rides your desire to understand. Do your homework. Pay attention. Otherwise, stick with your view in spite of being presented with evidence to the contrary by people who lived through the time and were actually there. Stick with your view. Live with it. Choke on it. You have now demonstrated that YOU ARE NOT WORTH correcting. You are a child and will apparently remain a child. Throw your vote away. Stomp your little foot in your rightness. Once upon a time, in a different century, they used to say "Don't trust anyone over thirty." One day soon, you will be over thirty, and you'll actually find out how ignorant and narrow your thinking is, and you won't pay any attention to yourself because you'll be over thirty. I've been in the military for well over three decades, longer than you've been alive apparently, and overseas a significant portion of my life in a combat zone "defending the country." And then, with other folks like me, we come home, and we come across silly little punks that make us think -- WHY DID WE BOTHER? We'd like to continue to "save the country" to the extent that we can, and little know-nothing, smart-ass punks stand up on their hind legs and spout self-righteous nonsense and refuse to be corrected. Fine. Throw your vote away. Vote for Obama for all we care. When we all sink into a Socialist, Marxist, Communist Hell-hole of ignorance, brutality and depravity, deal with it. We who defended your right to be a complete moron will probably be dead, either of old age or at some cross-roads barricade, and you can go through all the sweat and heartbreak and fight your own damn battles and learn the hard way, if you learn at all.

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352157408' post='839603'] Okay...at first blush, I don't see this as some big breech of this marine's rights. Regardless of our "rights" and regardless of whether the state we are in at the moment does or doesn't allow open carry and/or constitutional carry; I don't think it should be difficult to understand that when an officer stops us, whether he was or wasn't justified in doing so, it's not unreasonable that the officer may be concerned about the fact that we are armed and may be overly cautious. I guess what I'm saying is that both this marine and this officer could benefit from some relaxation techniques. In the meantime; I'll listen to this again...maybe I missed something. [/quote] Next time you're handcuffed for nearly an hour by an officer who admits you committed no crime come back and tell me YOUR rights weren't breached.

I watched it because I dig Hell On Wheel's Anson Mount (from TN!). I didn't get very worked up over political messages in it. I didn't really detect any. If it was a campaign piece for Obama, I didn't pick up on it. They had Obama speaking in his voice of the political ramifications if it turned out to not be a baddie in the compound, or if the op was botched...but I didn't get the impression of Obama kicking ass and demanding we get Osama. It portrayed him as hesitant for good reason. I don't think this show will change anyone's mind...and I didn't get the impression it was trying to.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352149415' post='839514']I am one of the few that really don't think that it matters whether it's Mitt or Obama. Neither will have any power. They have been bought and paid for. The big donors aren't giving just to have that warm and fuzzy feeling. We will see in another four years. [/quote] Well... 1. 0bama is taking power that he doesn't have and no one is stopping him. 2. Whoever is POTUS in the next four years will likely have the opportunity to choose 2, 3, or maybe even 4 SCOTUS judges. Regardless of all other politics, do you really want to leave that to 0bama??? 3. Just upon MR's victory alone, the price of gas will drop very quickly, public confidence throughout the U.S. will rise, businesses will see light at the end of the tunnel and start hiring, Christmas will be good because there will be [u]real[/u] hope, not that fake stuff 0bama was peddling. If 0bama were to win, this country would slide into a darkness of mental depression because of the past four years, people would know from experience to expect more of the same and worse. The result of 0bama getting 4 more years would likely be unrecoverable, it would be goodbye USA as we have known it for generations - all in less than 8 years. That is a nightmare worth voting against. You may not have hope in MR, no one is begging you too. But you, along with the rest of us, have seen the past 4 years. Do you want more of that? Vote based on your answer to that question. It's an easy choice to make. You either do or you don't.