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I really thought Obama had taught us to be self sufficient. If you're not prepared I have no sympathy.

I did my part to warn folks.

If I am out of line starting this thread, or if it offends anyone, that is not my intention and I apologize. If it it taken down, I understand. However, with the number of texts and calls I have received since it went public that my wife is positive and we are quarantined offering support and prayers, I thought a spot for members to post requests for prayers for friends and loved ones was in order. No names are required (I don’t want anyone breaking HIPAA laws) just prayer requests. I believe in the power of prayer.

Irony: A Jewish fellow driving a German car.

This woman has a good point. It is both frustrating and concerning to me that corporations with billions of dollars in revenue are already demanding a bailout. Just a month ago we supposedly had one of the strongest economies in many years. Did no one learn from 08?

Some of us it did. For others it taught them to suck teet and whine while holding their hand out. We are seeing the results from both play out now.

First Responders.

I think it's actually already bloomed, seeded out, resprouted and spreading!

There are a lot of people at home, pizzed off and armed. Probably not a good time to start a new career as a burglar or home invader. But then, criminals have never been accused of being smart.

Time or not, none of the admins or moderators should take BS from a newbie.

Thanks to our MODS !

Well, the long awaited range report. Took the new Henry 45/70 out to play today. Pics below.... Top pic was with my reloads, Starline brass, Hornady 300 gr HP, IMR 4198 powder 41 grs. At 25 yds. Bottom pic is Federal Fusion 300gr. HP factory at 25 yds. I was a bit disappointed in the Federals, supposed to be great, maybe in another rifle, not so much in this one. The shot on the bottom I pulled I think. I was surprised the reloads did that well, had no idea how they would work. I took the middle ground from the Hornady manual @ 41grs. Think I'll keep it.

I don't drive a Mercedes, but learned a lot of adjectives describing MacGyver. So had to bring out the

Most of TGO community may not affected yet, but I feel we all will be, either directly or indirectly, in the next few weeks. I have not been on this group nearly as long as many of you, but in short time I have been here I have met some great folks and feel I have gotten to know more just from reading posts. Everyone take care of yourselves and loved ones.

I think they were “pushed” into doing something like that by a power person who has NO CLUE as to how fiscal policy works and is only concerned with how he looks to the world.

Well, he managed to meet the same fate, just waaaay faster.

Going to do an inscription with there names birthday and adoption date. Also going to get them there lifetime sportsman.

bought some mags and ammo from Natchez a few weeks ago. Shipped fast.

I don’t care if I ever buy any ammo again. But for those still buying, I checked Midsouth Shooters. They still had most of the popular calibers.

Our entire consumption based economy is in for a rude awakening. It’s gonna hurt, a lot.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm head and shoulders above anyone in any category, at all. Ever. I try really hard to be the dumbest guy in the room. That said, the "room" I sit in every Monday through Friday (and a lot of Saturdays and a few Sundays lately) is full of some incredibly smart minds when it comes to medical knowledge. I really am not allowed to say anything that could conceivably be construed as being anything other than my own thoughts and opinions only and absolutely not the official position of my employer. So, this is just me saying: I have no reason to believe that this epidemic is being overblown and every reason to believe that it's not. I also believe that we really have no appreciation yet for how bad it could get here. As a country we got a really good advance warning from Asia and Europe. The travel restrictions that Trump administration put in place early bought us a lot of time compared to what the rest of the world got. The people who have opted to self-quarantine have likely helped slow the roll of COVID-19, but I think that's really all we can do. We're not going to stop it but we can slow it down and keep the outbreak from crushing our hospitals and forcing doctors here to make the sort of life and death decisions as they are in Italy. Our inherent belligerence as a nation is part of why we are a nation but it's also really unhelpful when the time comes for the people to acquiesce when the government asks us to not indulge in certain freedoms -- like partying on lower Broadway in Nashville during a worldwide pandemic. So, I think it is very likely that the government will soon change its posture from "asking" to "telling" and we will see a lot of restrictions on life as a result. All because some folks aren't going to have it suggested that they should limit their lifestyle until this blows over. I hope I'm wrong.

Good riddance.

Airlines are considered critical infrastructure. Passengers aside, they’re filled with cargo. They’re also in tenuous financial positions (as always) - so they’re probably a week or so away from needing to be bailed out.

Since I used to be in CA I have a few friends that keep me up to date. Gun store are swamped with people buying their first gun , because of the virus . Lots and lots of liberal democrats suddenly felt the need to own a gun . They have also purchased all the ammo they can find , there isn't any 22 rf to be found , but part of it is the threat of the no-lead ammo ban . In case you haven't heard , they are trying to ban all lead ammo , not just hunting ammo , EVERY BIT OF LEAD AMMO . They started with the Condors for getting non lead hunting , now all of it . Could be that a lot of it is being purchased on line , but you still have to go through an FFL , pay the Dros ( yes) background check on every ammo purchase . That can cost between $1 and $19 depending on if you have a gun registered in AFIS system or not . And some stores are charging up to $55 for receiving and holding it for 24 hours before you pick it up . I feel sorry for them , that's why I started reloading years ago , and moved here to Free America . Hope it stays free .

I bet hotels are a strong contender considering...

Glad I ordered 1000 rounds on Saturday, and confirmed the order today. That and had my pistol buying binge the last 3 months.

That’s because precious metals that aren’t a part of a larger, well balanced portfolio has always been a kind of dumb investment. Its not to say there’s not a place for them - but they’re not going to perform as some sort of panacea when everything else heads south.

Because every time someone coughs, 100 people poop their pants.

It’s just not what we want to lead with in the forum. I don’t really care how people put themselves out there in their personal lives - we would rather just not make your supposed ethnicity their main identifier here. i suspected this was leading from the get go. His IP didn’t match his supposed location. So, I asked him to pick another username - he sent me some blistering PM’s in return. I don’t have the time this week for any of that.

It's the panic of crowds that you're seeing in the stores and on the Tee Vee today. There's a concept called "The Golden Horde" among survivalist circles, but can be easily imagined in a variety of shapes and sizes. Google it for some ideas? If this stuff going on gets really bad.... how bad will people behave? Will it reach the point where people load up in cars and commit violence to feed their family (or prey on those less fortunate)? Hungry people will do remarkable things, and frankly I have a pretty low opinion of us humans in general. So use your imagination, browse a few Hollywood plot-lines, and.... yeah, I'll admit it: I started carrying with the extended magazine instead of the compact one last week. It's less easily concealed because it sticks out further, but frankly, I look at that as a benefit today!

I saw! He might not have brought the typical New Yorker voting pattern with him, but he sure brought the New Yorker attitude.

It won’t, but it will kill my 87 year old Mother and 89 year old Father. You and your kids probably wouldn’t die if infected. But you could, and they could; and that’s the point of all the precautions.

I fully believe this will spread by non-symptomatic people who are still contagious. The person who was contagious at the event we attend is knowledgeable enough on contagious diseases that I don’t think he would have attended if he had any symptoms or thought he was contagious. Even so, many folks were infected. Another issue is people who don’t think they are sick with Covid-19 when they are. My wife only had a very minor cough, and a low grade fever for a couple days. But she was positive. She has no cough now and only an off and on low grade fever. If her supervisor had not asked her to be tested, she would not have been. My niece had the exact same symptoms last week. Her pediatrician was not concerned. I wonder if she was positive and is spreading the virus. Long story short, we need large scale testing of anyone who thinks they could have Covid-19.

I picked a hell of a weekend to go and shoot up about 500 rounds of 9mm..... I love my new CZ Scorpion Evo though. I'm a healthcare worker, I am around things that can kill me pretty much daily. This one concerns me because we are not really very well prepared from a supply stand point, and thats mostly no fault of the healthcare system several things behind the scenes have screwed some things up. Namely there was a huge shortage of supplies early on before this was a thing due to a couple of companies (I'm looking at you Cardinal Health and Civco..) that had some serious sterilization plant issues. Factor that in with the fact everything other than American babies are made in China and you have a massive shortage. The kicker of all this is early on this was a must have an N95 respirator type of isolation and now due to the shortage its an N95 only on patients with aerosol treatments and now a surgical mask is fine....... yeah that about face makes me uncomfortable... and reminds me to tell everyone who hoarded up N95's and or resold for profit they can shampoo my crotch. If you are elderly or have a co-morbidity stay inside just watch tv dont go out in crowds, dont eat out, WASH your hands and dont touch your face, let this just blow past.

So in an earlier post to this thread, I mentioned that I know someone who tested positive for the virus. My wife and I attended an event last Saturday evening where there was an attendee who was unknowingly positive for Covid-19. This is the person I was referring to. He tested positive just after the event as did his wife. There have now been numerous parents who tested positive after attending this event including my wife. We have been quarantined since Wednesday when we heard about the exposure. My wife had minor symptoms leading up to getting tested and only did so at the request of her supervisor. Otherwise, the symptoms were so mild we would have discounted them completely. Up to this point and I have not had any symptoms. I believe most who attend and are positive are doing well, but I do know of at least one person who is in the hospital. if I understand correctly, there could be 16 positive cases from this one event. That close to doubles the number in the State as of earlier this week. This was a relatively small event with maybe 100-150 people. As easily as it was transmitted there, I expect to see the number of cases jump significantly in Tennessee and the US over the next week. Demographically, we are both 50 with a 14.5yo daughter. We are doing well, have food and TP. Just not looking forward to another week+ in the house. (Especially with an upset 14.5yo moody daughter who did not get to go to the beach for Spring Break, and who is mad that Billie Eilish postponed her concert here at Bridgestone.

Yes they ship to TN now. I've bought ammo and other things from them. 1 day shipping for me.

Come on man, share, after this week I might need a few new words to fling around out in the world.

Isn't that the definition of insane? Doing the same thing expecting a different outcome.

After getting their azz chewed out for making stupid statements on Social Media, Murfreesboro city government isn’t saying much. But I doubt many will buy tables at that show. That’s the bad news. The good news (this a good news/bad news/ deal) is that if they have it you will probably be able to find a parking space.

This. I'm your neighbor in Lenoir City also. Welcome to TGO!

I don’t know what the reverse of a tidal wave is - but that’s what we’re seeing in data coming out of China right now. And they’re not done yet. I was surprised yet to see the Fed move that aggressively - but we’ve not seen data like this before. They’re trying to keep the credit markets open. Because we learned in ‘08 that credit markets are open - until they’re not. And that’s a giant problem for businesses that are leveraged as they are here in the US.

I’m surprised he let them use his name.

Since you don’t have news shows on in your house; let me assure you that the conservative media (that would be FOX News) is not taking this lightly and they aren’t purposefully misleading anyone, that I can see. Those coming up with “This is politically motivated and is nothing to worry about” is not getting that from conservative media, well maybe InfoWars, but not FOX.

I was initially on the “what’s the big deal” train like you. The more I read and the more I listened to folks that actually have years of background in the field of communicable disease and virology, the better my understanding became. Most of the other communicable diseases you’re comparing COVID-19 to are either low morbidity and moderate communicability, or low communicability and moderate morbidly. COVID-19 has a moderate morbidity and moderate (moving into high the more we learn) communicability. That a whole new ballgame by orders of magnitude. All of the other similar illnesses out there combined aren’t sending enough folks to the hospital to outstrip available resources like respirators and oxygen machines like this one is. For example, folks with diabetes generally have a lower immune system strength making them high risk for severe symptoms. Way more than they normally would with normal flu. So this is a big deal. I do agree there’s a lot of media induced panic going on, but it’s not all in everyone’s heads. It is a serious event and folks do need to take the advice of the folks at the CDC and WHO regarding reducing transmission. It isn’t just about us individually not getting sick, it’s also our moral responsibility to do what we can to not get others sick. Others who might not survive it like those of us that are younger or healthier might.

There are some reports that a county in Tennessee has denied all coronavirus tests for fear of having a positive in that county. One group owns most of the small offices in the county and that group is the one doing the approvals. I think the hysteria is BS, but people that want to be tested should be.

Several reasons. The CDC failed to leverage the work others had done and developed their own test. That test was later found to have problems with reliability after shipping. So it set us back a couple of weeks. The administration does share a lot of blame for failing to treat this with the seriousness it deserved up until earlier this week. Now, tests are being severely rationed because while we've got plenty of actual tests at this point- we don't have the reagents to operationalize them at anywhere near full capacity. Specifically, we don't have enough RNA isolation and RT-PCR kits. So, we're starting way behind the curve. We don't actually know how far behind the curve we are. We'll know in the next few days. You made the right decision staying home. You don't want to be stuck 2000 miles from home.

I expect you’ll see national restrictions and flights grounded in the next few days. Even with as little testing as we’re doing, you’re still seeing cases double every three days. This is the exponential doubling we’re worried about - and lack of testing likely means we’re a few days closer to Italy than we think. We may be too late - but on our current path, estimates suggest we could have 9.4 million sick and 1 million dead at the same time. Note that we have 95,000 ICU beds in the US - and this load would suggest we’d need 460,000. This isn’t a guess or some worst case scenario. This is math coupled with what we’ve seen in Italy - another first world country. Seriously. If you can hole up for a couple weeks - consider it your civic duty.