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  They sure won't be calling anyone after an EMP.  Might be worth it just to kill all the phones stuck in everyone's ears.

After six years of school, I just submitted my last assignment to fulfill the requirements for a Master's Degree in Information Systems Business Intelligence. What a strange feeling!  No more homework, no more (school) deadlines. I'm..done.   I've been working in the BI field for a while now, but to be done with the degree is just...something. Not sure I even know how to describe the feeling, but I wanted to share with my fellow TGOers.  :wave:            

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What does is sound like when 10 or 15 MacBooks simultaneously slam shut?

You looking to get cut? I'm Irish and Mexican, so you keep saying shit like that and I will. Just let me finish my beer first.

hand job... now if i could just convince the wife to do it for me.....

Cops stood by during the LA riots as they watched people being murdered and brutally assaulted and did nothing. This is why I'll never understand liberals when they say you don't need a gun because that's what police are for. Obviously it isn't.

  I just think you're going way deeper than they're gonna go. I think Douchemort wasted his time again, unless he found a new love while he was locked up. If the cops did make some kind of minor error, they're just gonna go oops. Piss on Lenny.

Nobody is saying they couldn't perform a terry stop and have a conversation with him....  You have to separate the stop to ask him some questions and see what is going on, and the search of the rifle case.   I haven't seen anybody argue that legally they couldn't walk up to the guy and ask him what is going on...  so stop bringing that fact up, we all agree stopping him was perfectly within current case law (I'm happy to have a separate discussion on how terry v ohio is horrible case law and should be overturned, but that topic is for another time and place).   The issue some of us have is with the search of a locked case that was no longer within arms reach of Leonard, and the arrest because Leonard claimed they had the paperwork in their possession before he was arrested.   Just because something is not normal doesn't give police the ability to even stop you, let alone probable cause to search you, let alone search a locked case that is no longer in your possession without a warrant.   And, you also overlook that there were 2 different police encounters within a 10 to 15 minute span...  In the first encounter 10+ officers let Leonard go, he was wearing the exact same kevlar vest, and carrying the exact same gun case...  And then the second encounter that we've all seen the video tape of...  between those two encounters he did an interview with a TV reporter...   So I agree the context of the situation matters.  So lets talk about the context of this situation...  maybe a man wearing body armor and a gun case isn't normal, but once you stop that person have a conversation and LET THEM GO... and you see the exact same person 15 minutes later doing walking in the same general area how do you suddenly get probable cause that he is now committing a crime?   So which is it, the first group of 10-15 officers all got it wrong, and should be disciplined for letting a possible madman walk around downtown Nashville?  Or the second group (which included a number of the first group) got it wrong for seeing the exact same person released 10 minutes ago (who you've just watched have an interview with a local TV reporter) is suddenly a person about the go on a shooting spree?   One group of officers got it completely wrong...  which one is it?    

The issue is what specific probable cause do you have to think the rifle is loaded?   Unlike with an HCP everybody who can legally own a firearm can carry it around unloaded, so an officer would need probable cause that this one rifle was loaded.   The 'locked' container is another problem for the search as well, there was a lock on the outside of the case, you can see that from media screencaps, and it was cased in such a way as it was impossible to determine if the chamber was empty without destroying the lock.  I don't think the fact the case wasn't super sturdy factors into whether the owner attempted to protect the item(s) inside the case by locking it.   A perfect example, of this, if you had an old laptop backpack that had a rip in the side, and you tried to mend that backpack with tape, then proceeded to lock the bag to prevent something from opening the bag up...  does the fact that there is some tape negate the lock completely?  Or lets say you're using a cheap plastic handgun case, that is locked, and somebody comes by and pry's the corner up enough to see a handgun in the case, does that mean it wasn't locked?  Of course not...     Also, we now know exactly what the listed probable cause was from the officers police report, and it's complete bunk...  Can you blindly pick up a cased rifle and tell from the weight whether it was loaded or not?  Can anybody?  I'd love to hear what training the officer had that allowed him with any degree of certainty to pick up an unknow model firearm and tell from the weight alone if it was loaded or not.   And remember that simple PC does not equal a legal search, the police had full possession of the cased firearm, it was well out of reach of a suspect that was fully complying with all orders of the police officers in question...  What was the exigent circumstance that prevented them from getting a warrant before searching the case?  There was no risk to the public by the time they had the case.  Nothing was stopping them from sitting there for 30 more minutes waiting on a court order to open the case.  So anyway you cut it, the search was bad.   Then you come to the arrest, here is where Leonard made a critical mistake, by having that NFA item on the firearm it gave them an excuse to arrest him...  well except for the paperwork he claims was in the case with the firearm...  if that turns out to be true then how did they not become aware of the paperwork before he was booked?  I'm willing to bet we find out that the paperwork was documented right along side the firearm and the arrest becomes bad as well.   None of the douchebag actions that Leonard did that day excuse police officers of violating his rights and not following the constitution...  Arguing that they stepped over the line is not some show of support for Leonards actions, only a lack of support for overzealous actions on the part of the police officers who performed the search and arrest.  

    You don't have to out run the bear, just out run your buddy.  The guy with the camera around his neck is dead meat.  :lol:

I don't want to make light of the death of a bear.  I don't want to but this damned smartass nature of mine won't be stopped so:   The article says that the bear turned his rear toward the hiker.  The hiker then said, "Hey, bear," in an attempt to let the bear know he was there and not startle it.  At that point, the bear charged at the hiker.   Being as it had just turned its rear toward him, I wonder if the bear might have misheard, "Hey, bear," and though that the hiker was calling him a, "Gay bear."  Maybe the bear then went running toward the guy to exclaim that he (the bear) was NOT gay - just curious.  Would that make killing the bear a hate crime?

I'll admit, that's me. I don't watch NASCAR and never thought wrecks were cool, but I sure would get a good laugh out of Voldemort getting a hot lead injection for his stupidity.

Crew chief.  A first light flight at dawn, with the mist laying in the valleys and the air cool through the doors makes you want to do it for free.

Not everyone is a turkey hunter. :)   Speaking of funny turkey hunts...   This past spring I was hunting in KY with a friend. We had a great morning set up that resulted in calling in a pair of longbeards. Unfortunately they hung up too far out. Around lunch, we pack up and moved to another field to do some mid day blind sitting. Well my friend stepped in a creek and got his socks wet on the way to the blind. When we got to the blind he proceeded to pull off his boots and hang his wet socks out of the front window of the blind. It was warm, so I pulled my boots off too. We sat there and played around with several calls, swapping them back and forth, trying different strikers. Then we decided to take a short nap. With my buddy almost asleep, I caught movement across the field. TURKEY! I woke him up and said, "Get your gun, turkeys headed our way." I picked up my call and coaxed the big tom across the field. When he was still 100 yards out, my buddy whispered, "We don't have shoes on. Who's gonna run out and get the bird." It was all I could do to keep from laughing out loud. The bird worked it's way in and my buddy hammered it at 15 yards. We slipped our boots on and walked out to the bird only to find that he had shot a little low and blown the beard clean off.    Then, if that wasn't enough, we were standing around packing up and the turkey was laying on the ground near me. I looked over at it and some something moving on the bird. I inched closer and saw a weird greenish gray foot clawing from it's feathers! It's fair to say I was freaked out! We got a stick and poked around and out crawls a toad! Not sure how long he had been riding on the turkeys back, but it just added to an already funny hunt. 

  There's still plenty of reasons to try to replace both of them, unfortunatly they have most of the money to run their campaigns and commercials while a decent candidate doesn't have the funds or a  chance. That's why we have Haslam also.

Kwik seems to be TGO's case of the clap. No matter what kind of shot this forum gets, it still has periodical outbreaks.

  Kwik needs to make an issue of it, I guess.   - OS

  Really! I hope he loses his house this time.

Public safety exception (and officer safety exception) goes out the window the instant they separate the suspect from the sealed container if they believe the sealed container holds a firearm.  A firearm in a sealed (even crappy) container is of no threat to the public or the officers once it is outside the reach of the suspect.   There are very few limited situations where public/officer safety exception would be allowed on a container separated from the suspect...  for example if the police believed the container contained a bomb...  but if that was the case, the police officer failed to follow SOP of a suspected bomb in trying to open the container...  and more importantly the officer's own report contains no claim of a public safety exception.   Have you read the officers report?  He documents exactly what he thought the probable cause was to open the container.   He claimed that he could tell from the weight that the container held a LOADED firearm.     Now, do you believe that you could tell whether an unknown AR15 model in an unfamiliar closed container was or was not loaded based solely on the weight of that firearm?   Because that is what the officer in question wants us to believe was his probable cause that the firearm in that case was a loaded and not an unloaded firearm.    

Please re watch the video that has been posted on the second encounter, it takes then over 2 minutes of ripping off 'tape' and prying the case apart before they're even able to tell the weapon has a silencer attached to it....  And they were not able to access the chamber of the firearm without tools...  I'm pretty sure that meets the standard of a locked/sealed container in United States v Strickland.   You also have the separate problem that the case was moved outside the reach of the suspect and I'm pretty sure that fact negates the exigent circumstance you're talking about in current case law.    

  Leonard won't get squat out of this. Jay explained, in excruciating detail, how HE thinks it should work. Now... watch what actually happens.

"Several people called 911 Monday afternoon to report a man wearing a bullet proof vest and carrying a semi-automatic weapon on his back in downtown Nashville. Officers found him walking around 2nd Avenue South near Gay Street. Police questioned the man, identified later as 41-year-old Leonard Embody, and said he was uncooperative. An affidavit said he refused to show identification, and also would not answer whether the weapon was loaded."   Read more here   http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22963548/gun-advocate-arrested-on-weapons-charge   Why scare the sheeple?  as a LEO I do not really care if you legally carry but WTF?

  Yeah, I'd want the real thing, like the Pet Rock. ;)   And let's don't forget the Singing Largemouth. Wish I'd had a cut of that action.   - OS

  I will host the one in Oak Ridge.  :D  Hell the mayor might support it if he only reads gun buy back.

  It really is not. This has been the rule since constabulary was set in the US. People just believe that the government is there to protect them, it never said it was.

  No need to beg. ;) But that's the rider, not the bike. You put Valentino Rossi on an R1 on the Dragon and even the infamous Yellow Wolf is going to be viewing taillights. You just can't beat physics. A bike with 180hp weighing less than 500lbs is going destroy a bike with about 120hp weighing nearly 900lbs. Now you put me on the R1 and Yellow Wolf on his Goldwing, then yea, I'll be the one looking at taillights. 

Robert, for the most part I like Rand. I have become uneasy with some of his positions as of late, but I am generally favorably inclined towards him. That being said, I don't think you should vote for him if you don't want to. I still maintain that no matter how unlikely your choice is to win, the only vote wasted is the vote cast not from conscience but fear. We should all be voting FOR someone, not AGAINST someone.

I'm staggered by the knowledge exhibited by Ms. Boots. Perhaps she's simply got good google-fu, but the fact that this was included in the article is amazing to me... Perhaps I shouldn't be amazed, but I am. After all, this seems to be the norm...

  You clicked Client Area first?   Purchases on left column.   - OS

  They need to slip some citizen 50 bucks to whip his ass right there in front of God and everybody.

  I often find myself hunting my keys.  By the time I find them, I sometimes want to shoot the b@st@rds.  If I did, I'd probably use a shotgun.

Folks can go a good while without eating. It isn't fun, but I've done it. Most people have a few weeks of food in their cupboards if they ration appropriately, and once real food runs out people can still make it eating just about anything that is left that one wouldn't normally eat for sustenance alone. It becomes a calorie game at that point. So reasonably, most folks do have enough to see them through the first 30 days. That's actually the part that is scary for me. Once the regular meals run out, folks are now going through the scraps to make an acceptable caloric intake. That is when the real panic sets in; when they realize they might starve to death, yet they still have enough to give them the strength to look for food elsewhere. That's when they start killing people for a ham sandwich. That's when thugs start banding together to pillage homes, steal what they can carry, rape and murder. No matter how much food you save, that scenario is going to happen. I'm not worried at all about starving to death. I'm worried about the mob killing my family.

what do you hunt? Anything specific?   I tend to hunt clay pigeons myself; usually easy to find and drop but they taste horrible no matter how long I cook them ;)

[quote data-cid='1008801' name='Chucktshoes' timestamp='1375360582' post='1008801'][quote data-cid='1008764' name='TMF' timestamp='1375352904'] I think you are confusing action and reaction. No, insulting someone's spouse is not aggressive, however will result in getting an aggressive response, such as a punch in the face. Regardless, you are missing the point that I was making, which was that he is doing something legal (yet incredibly provocative) in order to elicit a response which will give him grounds for a lawsuit. That is the whole point I am making. Insulting someone's wife is legal, yet provocative, and if done so with the intent to provoke a response you can sue over it is no different than what Voldemort is doing. He did something provocative to elicit a response for the purpose of gaining grounds for a lawsuit.[/quote] I didn't miss your point about Voldemort's actions, I addressed it and agreed with it. I have simply been debating with you about the poorly constructed and inapplicable nature of the argument you presented. As far as the idea that I am "confusing action with reaction" in viewing certain words as aggression, or even outright violence, I will let the words of the SCOTUS speak for me. The concept that words can be aggressive enough on their own to be considered an act of violence is the basis for anti-bullying, sexual harassment and other forms of civilly and criminally actionable damage. It is the primary basis on which 1st Amemndment limitations are built. There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality. — Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942[/quote][/quote] And walking around a heavily populated area with body armor and a loaded rifle in a country that has had multiple mass shootings is somehow not going to cause a breach of peace? The 911 calls are your proof there.

  He was lawfully detained.  He was not free to go, they let him know that.  They determined they had PC to search him.  When this goes before a judge they will articulate that, and it will either be upheld or it won't.  He was arrested and charged with a crime.  He wasn't held in an interrogation room from which he was free to go, he was actually arrested.    If it comes out that the police had good PC for the search then none of his rights were violated.  I don't see how this has to do with some random person that may or may not be put into an interrogation room they are free to leave from.  If someone voluntarily goes with police for questioning without consulting a lawyer, that is their problem.  It is not the job of the police to be a lawyer for you.  I'll never understand how police get a bad rap for the average person being a dumba**.  They have investigations to do.  It is not their fault if you choose to cooperate when you otherwise shouldn't have.

  What I'm talking about has nothing to do with UCMJ or his court martial, what I am referring to is the damage that has been done by his actions.  They aren't quantifiable, but they are very, very real.  It is nearly impossible to pin individual deaths of Servicemembers to the leaking of classified information, unless that classified information is so specific to the circumstances of the deaths leaving no doubt that the information leaked led to the death.    But make no mistake, there are dead US Servicemembers because of him.  There are.  Every time tactics, techniques and procedures are discovered by the enemy they use that to exploit weaknesses in order to kill us.  I can cite several examples if you need me to.  It is exactly how we use intelligence assets against them, to discover enemy TTPs so that we can better protect the force, kill, capture and deny enemy movement.  Fortunately for us, the enemy is very limited on how they discover our TTPs.  Since their ability to gather intelligence on us is so limited, they must rely on basic techniques such as observation.  There isn't much we can do about that, so observable TTPs are always changing, however, the stuff that goes on behind the scenes may be used as long as the TTP isn't burnt.  Manning burnt a sh**load of stuff that our sons and daughters can no longer use to protect the force and target the enemy.  Therefore, there is undoubtedly many, many deaths that are directly and indirectly tied to this sorry POS that needs to be chained to the back of a truck and dragged to death.    And I'll add that what makes me even more angry is that he is supposed to be a brother in arms.  What he did is far worse and damaging than what that sorry POS did in the Ft. Hood shooting, or that other sorry POS that fragged his leadership prior to the invasion of Iraq.  What Manning did do his fellow brothers in arms was so damaging and deadly that it won't ever be put into numbers.  He deserves death for the damage he caused and the betrayal of fellow Servicemembers.  It is one thing to be a sorry civilian traitor, such as Jane Fonda, but to be a traitor in uniform is something that deserves death, every single time. 

Because Conservative radio tells the truth. The liberal stations are just like the liberal mainstream media. They cannot tell the truth and would rather drink kool aid and put a spin shine on obamawhos ass while listening to in a godda da vida until the sun comes up.

There is no liberal radio for the same reason there is no Kindergarten radio.

I'm not much of a cruiser guy but I do like the Victory Cross Tour. Currently I ride an FJR for everything, touring included. IMO a cruiser for touring wouldn't be my choice, you are already limited on cornering clearance and if you load it down and double on it then you'd decrease that, unless you upgrade the suspension. Many do tour on them though and if so my choice would be the GW. Good buys out there on used ones GW's too.   Now, since you are now getting back on bikes and big heavy bike, including the GW or just about any cruiser may become imtiminating. Don't know your age, height and weight but it's going to be a bicth if you tip over a 600lb + bike while you're reviving that learning skill.  :-\   But, if your committed to a pig of the bike (including my FJR) you might consider an older GW and a smaller summer bike like a 650 V-Strom, NC700 or a K75 (which are steals today). For the price of a new bike you could have two but that may not go over well with SWMBO. Either way, make sure you get a back rest for whatever you buy.  :D

running a filter on it will help reduce that to a certain degree.  so would running a light that isn't as bright.  The down fall with both of those is you loose a little bit of the disorienting effect that the light has on the bad guy.   If you have good night vision as it, you shouldn't be relying on the light until you are reasonably sure you know where the bad guy is. At that point you should either be leaving the light on or turning every light in the house on.  there isn't much reason to go back to darkness once you've found the threat.   There are some things you can do with your home lighting to give you the better tactical advantage as well.  For me i leave a small light on in my washer dryer area.  This provides very dim illumination to the living room and kitchen area and will still silhouette a person in the hall way.  I leave the rest of my house blacked out.  Basically add just enough light to silhouette the BG throughout their likely avenues of approach while leaving your avenue of approach to high threat areas a dark as possible.   Your pistol light should only be used to illuminate a threat for final target identification and shoot/don't shoot decision.     For one person home defense i really do not suggest attempting to clear your entire house.  Clear forward just far enough that your family is safe behind you and establish a solid defensive position at that point.  Single person room clearing is the most difficult and dangerous type of room clearing there is and although knowing the area offers you some advantage it is still not preferable.    Hope this was somewhat helpful.

2 years ago during spring Turkey, I took a buddy of mine out. We sat up started to call and immediately had turkeys gobbling. I new it was just jakes but I heard at least one good Tom on the opposite ridge. As I was calling I kept hearing a crinkling sound. For about 5 minutes I couldn't figure out where this sound was coming from. The jakes came in quietly and I turned to my buddy to see if he wanted to shoot one and before I said anything he asked if I wanted a bite of his breakfast sandwich. Well the turkeys scattered and the hunt was over. The whole time I was calling him in his first turkey he was eating a breakfast sandwich which was wrapped in tinfoil. I was so still I didn't even know he was eating the dang thing just heard the wrapper. Got to love friends.

Yeah the level of sophistication of this one appears very well thought out, much more thought out than his previous attempts, I'm curious if he's getting legal advice from somebody on how to pull this off....   I'm with you, I don't agree with his methods, but you can still look at something ugly and admire the effort it took to put it together :)    

umm... I'll draw the line at wanting someone out of public office. No one. No one needs cancer.

  What drives him has nothing to do with gun rights.  It has more to do with the frustration of being born into the body of the biggest douchetard on the planet. 

Money.  Power.  Sex.   An old boss of mine told me once that when you're investigating a case and can't seem to find an angle.  Work the above list.  20 years later, I can affirm that he was right.   We really need term limits in a bad way!  Once they get to you, you're nothing but a puppet

Money.

I will be holding a Tennessee buy back in Knoxville. Bring me your evil guns and receive a Wal Mart gift card. :up:

As a former Police Officer that has participated in high risk entries without having to dress up in tactical gear; I have always opposed this. The possibility of someone flushing some dope should never been a reason for putting people’s lives at risk.   High risk means just that. Unless someone’s life is in danger there is no reason to kick in a door in the middle of the night; especially when there is any chance you have the wrong house.   If you have to make entry it should be made by Officers in a standard Police uniform that people recognize.   What can you do? You can put this right at the feet on the only people responsible for it, and in every department that is one man or woman; the Chief or Sherriff.   We saw it happen with disastrous results right here in Lebanon a few years back; needless death of an innocent man because the Officers were not prepared or trained for what happened.   This reckless conduct puts the citizens and the Officers at a risk that cannot be justified in everyday use.  

Depends on situation. If I have to get down that road for some reason, or if they show major aggression towards me or other drivers then the AR comes out, and we find out just how badly they wanna block that road. If they are blocking the road but not being super aggresive then Id lock the doors, handgun on lap and use the horn and push my way through. If it wasn't critcal to travel the road then Id find another route if they weren't physically attacking others. Tapatalk ate my spelling.