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  Hmm...let's give the "he may have tried to hurt himself" story an old fashioned smell test.   The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.   The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.     The prisoner, who is in jail, could not be reached for comment. No one answered the phone at his house, and an attorney was not listed in court records.     So...this is a leaked story, to a major newspaper- which guarantees the story will be re-posted/linked/shared by the traditional media and blogosphere alike.  It was written by the police and can't be confirmed by the "witness" or anybody who might have had contact with him since then...   ...call me skeptical.       He was in police custody when he died.  The Baltimore Police Commissioner already admitted to flaws in the way he was handled.   I don't care how long is rap sheet was, they were responsible for his safety.  If we can't get it in us to be upset when someone dies in police custody because of intentional or incompetent conduct, we have a problem.

Almost 3 months old. All my brother's, ahh, cats in one bed. :) His girlfriend had just woken up. Heh, heh...she would be PISSED if she knew I had posted this pic. ;)

This thread needs some Bulldog! - Gus

No one said buy a Glock yet? This is not the Internet I'm used to.

  People in Georgia keep saying their northern border is wrong by a mile.  This would give them access to the Tennessee River.  I don't understand why states that border the ocean don't build desalinization plants if they're that strapped for fresh water.

Nice knife and all, but if i'm gonna drop $800 on something its gonna go bang lol...

Not a new member to the board but I have officially escaped from Marylandastan and now living on Signal Mountain!! :wave: :wave:

So, I'm far from a Titans fan, but I do like to see them do well since it's a positive for the community.   But drafting Mariota?  I really don't see any large benefit over Mettenberger that justify using the #2 pick on him.  I think the Titans front office were hoping for the kings ransom for that pick, and seriously misjudged their environment.   Here's hoping they draft some good offensive lineman...otherwise no matter if it's Mariota or Mettenberger taking snaps, Titans QB is still going to be the most dangerous job in Tennessee.

Spoke w S&W, 3 buttons on their phone menu and i was on w a human US citizen  rep, no hold...nice 4 minute phone call. told him what happened,gave him the ser of the gun, he e mailed me a label, told me to put a note in the box asking for them to not screw w the apex fss fed ex was at my work in 10 mins to pick it up, couldn't believe it. heres what i put in my note to them:   Please repair as necessary 1.       Break down lever broken. 2.       Pistol has been placing rounds all over target at 25 yards, low at 8 o’clock. Jerry Miculek I’m not, but a good friend gave me a beater Dawson sight set to work with it, unfortunately the takedown lever broke before I was able to test the pistol. Pls test fire to determine if there is an issue w the barrel or any other components that may be causing a problem. 3.       Please leave the apex trigger setup inside of the pistol, it’s been working fine, 4.       This pistol was missing the plastic cap under the rear sight that covers the small spring. 5.       I know the sights are banged up, am not worried about them, pls do whatever you feel is best to check the weapon out and check for accuracy related problems. 6.       This is my first S&W.Please help restore my faith in it.   Thanks pls call w any questions   dustbuster

  I had a conversation along these lines with a black coworker, once.  This was a few years ago when the shrub was president.  We started talking about race and I told her that, in my opinion, it wasn't the whites oppressing the blacks or the blacks problems for whites (she used the term 'blacks' of 'black folk', not 'African Americans', herself.)  Heck, I'm too busy trying to survive to have time to oppress anyone.  Instead, it is the people who either make money and gain fame from the convlict or who are able to get away with things that oppress us all (politicians) because we are too busy being at each others' throats to see where the real problem lies.  I went on to say that I have more in common with the honest, hard working black man down the street who - like me - gets up and goes to work everyday, pays taxes and has little influence over the way things are done than I have with the Bushes, the Clintons or Bill Gates and he has more in common with me than with Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.  She nodded her head for much of what I was saying and, when I finished, stated that she thought I was absolutely correct.

  It's a fact that minorities are engaged (I’m speaking non-lethal engagements here, ie: police stops, arrests) more than non-minorities by law enforcement, largely as a result of profiling.  From Boston, to New York, to DC...this is a problem up and down the densely populated northeast corridor.  Throw in Chicago, and Los Angeles for good measure, and we have a national problem.    I'd be ready to take to the streets if I was in that demographic and can't fault their emotions.  When they march on City Hall and the Police stations they have my full support.  That support is non-existent for the folks looting CVS and other places of business.  It's a shame the rioters are taking away the attention from the legitimate protests.       So?

  If you wanted to get the police in trouble, and yourself off the hook, how would you go about it?    Me, I'd bash my face against the side of the van so there are gashes, bumps, or even a broken nose for my booking photo.  I certainly wouldn't try to give myself a severed spine, which could kill me, and I wouldn't even know how to go about it if I wanted that option.       Or they are dangeling a plea bargain or dismissial of the charges in his face for saying he thinks Gray intentionally was trying to injure himself.  I'm just not trusting a leaked story by the BPD that tries to move the spotlight from their investigation.

  Aside from the not so casual reminder to the government that people can and will rise up, the riots serve no purpose.  I'm not supporting them, but I am supporting those people who took to the streets in legitimite protest.   If I was living under the heavy handed thumb of the police state like minorities in big cities are, I wouldn't be standing by quietly for the same old "sweep it under the rug" once the media attention dies down treatement either.  Government needs to know people are watching.

I'd send it back to S&W or sell it really cheap to that 10-Ring guy on the TGO forum.

Why not send it back to S&W?

Will become one of the greatest sports trivia questions of all time:

Fighting Sheep Dog is excited to announce it's next "FSD Range Day", coming up on May 17th from noon-5pm at Windrock Shooting Range in Oliver Springs. This event is FREE to the general public! We'll supply ALL of the guns. We usually bring between 6-8 ARs decked outh with some of the hottest accessories (JP Silent Capture springs, TacCon trigger, various muzzle brakes (Primary Weapons Systems' CQB, Strike Industries Cookie Cutter, Black Rain Ordnance Miculek-style brake, etc), Gibbz side charging handle billet upper, a variety of buttstocks, etc). You'll receive a handout with the accessories in each gun so you know what you're shooting and can document what you like, don't like, etc. All we ask is that you don't bring your own ammo, but rather get it from Windrock Shooting Range. This allows us to control the quality of the ammo being shot through our barrels. Come prepared for an AWESOME time, shoot some really cool ARs, see what's possible, and discover some accessories you may want for your next build! Looking forward to meeting you soon!

We will be offering a IDPA classifier on Saturday the 23 of May, the day before our regular match day. IDPA info can be found here: IDPA.com The classifier will consist of 90 rounds but bring more for reshoots if needed. No concealment need this time. Walden Ridge Shooting Range 1862 16th Model Rd Manchester,Tn 37355 Members $10 Nonmember $15

As some of you know, I just turned 18 with 22 years experience last week. Got my blood results back today and lets say they are better then when I was 25.   Since Christmas I have drop 40 pounds, 3 inches off my waist.(second year in a row lost 3 inches).   The biggest change I made was since Feb 23 to April 22 I had ZERO fast food.   I cooked most of my meals at home and was pretty careful on what I eat.  Allot of homemade chili if you aren't from Texas as it did have beans.   My Total Cholesterol  went from 168 to 110.  My LDL was about 55.  (don't have the paper in front of me) My Triglycerides went from 271 last year to 91.    I was floored when I saw that 110.  I remembered joking with him at the office that I had made big changes and I would be hurt if I hadn't got down to 150.       During my visit my doctor had said the main thing he would like to see my Triglyceride and weight to come down.  He still would like to see my drop 80 pounds.  I am going to try.  This has been an eye opener.   With the fit bit I have been much more active but that only started about a week before my doctor's visit so I know that wasn't a big factor.    I really believe it was the avoiding fast food for 2 months made that big of a difference.  I intend to keep that up with the new walking.   I had been over 300 cholesterol about 5 years ago, diet and exercise then got me to 230. Then I  taking some cholesterol medicine for the past 2 or 3 years.  That was only getting me from about 230 to the 170 range.    I also remember in my 20's I was always around 200, (fast food) but years ago anything under 200 was considered fine, now I think they want closer to 100.

So, convinced myself to finally buy one of these. Katadyn Pocket It should be here soon. I have never owned a device like this but figured I would pick on up. Goes down to .2 micron and is silver impregnated. That means it should get everything but some of the smaller viruses. Biggest benifit of spending $290? 20 year warranty and up to 13,000 gallons dependent upon water quality. Of course, you can also use UV light to kill off viruses/bacteria. Guess what the sun emmits! My research though has shown in the United States viruses aren't typically something you have to worry about being waterborne currently. I bought this to mainly mess around with to gain experience in that sort of thing. Plan on taking it hiking, etc. Also, will be nice not to have to worry about carrying so much water if I am planning around being near water to begin with. All my research shows that Katadyn is built very nice. Yes, the ceramic filter inside is breakable but it should generally hold up for a very long time if you take care of it. You can go cheap on something like this, Katadyn even makes a "Hiker" that is I think $60. The catch? It is only rated for I think 200 gallons. You can buy replacement ceramic catridges for the Katadyn Pocket for about $150. $150 per 13,000 gallons is about a penny per gallon. You can buy optional activated charcoal filter attatchments that are good for around 200 or so gallons. They would be good for filtering taste/chemicals from the water. I may buy one for hiking but wouldn't plan on long term using them. That brings up one thing I'd like to discuss here; without having activated charcoal, you pretty much leave whatever chemicals that exist in the water in the water. Now, hopefully in back country mountain streams this won't be an issue, but I am interested in seeing what others have thought about. Eventually I'd like to tie some rain barrels together for catching rainwater for gardening and stuff. They would also serve as a backup water source for times such as what happened in Toledo last year. When chemicals in water become a concern, what are your thoughts in dealing with them? Activated charcoal in mass quanties? Distilling the water? Avoid the contamination and seek elsewhere? Something else?

Captainstone, it's worth the drive. Great bunch of guys.

Hope he stays healthy ....

They are uglier than sin....but I still want one....congrats on your new baby Rhino!

I have never heard anything bad about tacomas and wouldn't mind one myself. But they are sure proud of those trucks with the price tags they carry.

  I'm the same way.  When I see a perfectly painted AR, my mind associates that with it being a safe queen.

My stock 10-22 fires every time and has never jammed.  It also hits what I point it at.  How can you improve on that?   I never understood people's urge to modify things, whether its a truck, a gun  or a dishwasher.  The overall plan seems to be "fiddle with it until it's broke, then unload it on a friend and buy another to fiddle with".  :D

My point was that a lot of the people shouting about how the police are 'unfairly' profiling them are the same people who are rampantly committing crimes in the riots. There is a certain amount of irony to people committing crimes to 'protest' the idea that police are (supposedly unfairly) 'profiling' them as people who commit crimes. They are basically just proving that the cops are right.

Once again, it was many moons ago, but I've been all in the cave under one of the falls. There were large pools inside the cave. Very deep and dark. Of course I dove right in. I remember a large boulder under one falling stream of water. Bravery overriding good sense, I climbed it and stood under the falling water. It knocked me off balance and I fell off. Busted my ass pretty good. Knees and elbows bloody. The laughter hurt worse.

      I think there is a marked difference between committing and convicted when we talk about crimes, with targeting minorities leading to the large discrepancy in the latter.  With all the laws on the books, a heavy enough police presence could turn white suburbia into a heavy crime zone given enough time and a robust enough DA office willing to prosecute.  The "war on drugs" related crimes/convictions are bringing in a lot of the statistics here.  In my mind, it's time for a hard look at those laws...but that's  side subject, probably.   I also never said that the rioting was a form of protesting.  I would like to think I'm clear enough on only supporting protesting against the government and the actions of the police, not random looting and destruction in the community.  I think blocking streets, defying a curfew, disobeying orders to disperse, etc..are legitimate methods of protest, but destroying whatever business you run across is not.

  To look at it the other way, though, maybe more minorities are engaged in police contact than non-minorities because more people who commit crimes happen to be minorities.  I am not just making this up.  I recently saw an interview with a group of police chiefs (can't remember which news program or show it was on) where the reporter addressed just such a question to one of the white chiefs, trying to put him on the spot.  It didn't exactly work out that way, however, as one of the black chiefs jumped in and stated that what people have to consider is that, in his district, for instance, roughly 80% of crimes were committed by black men.  So, if 80% of crimes are committed by black men (in a particular area, anyhow) then one would naturally expect that roughly 80% of police encounters would be with black men.  What, the cops should stop and question 85 year old white grandmothers who haven't committed a crime just to avoid being accused of 'profiling'?  It is kind of like with terrorist screenings.  When the most likely terrorists are Muslim men of middle eastern ancestry then screening a blonde haired, 8 year old Jewish girl makes no sense except to the politically correct who insist that profiling - which can be a useful tool - not be used.   Further, burning down your neighbor's house, trashing the cars of people who live in your neighborhood, destroying the businesses in your neighborhood and using so-called 'righteous' anger as an excuse to steal a new television is not 'protesting'.  It is a bunch of destructive a-holes using the death of someone they likely never even met as an excuse to tear crap up and steal stuff.  If they were amassed outside of a police station, etc. it might play more as 'protest' but as it is it this is simply trying to excuse yet more criminal behavior under the cover of 'racial inequality.'  I mean, if rioting, looting and theft from private businesses who have nothing to do with the police or what happened to Gray are any kind of indication of the type of people these folks are then I'd say it is no wonder they have more 'encounters' with police than other portions of society.   BTW, I have been stopped for driving while white.  It was when I was in college at UT and stayed at my grandmother's house during the week.  She lived at 2314 East Fifth, just off Magnolia, in a neighborhood that had become predominately black over the years.  The officer claimed he had stopped me for a tail light that was out (checked when I got home - the tail light was not out.)  He proceeded to ask, "What are you doing in this neighborhood?"  As badly as I wanted to respond that I was unaware that martial law had been invoked and that Americans were no longer free to travel where they chose, I instead answered that I lived there.  He then asked why my DL had a Loudon address and I told him that my home address was Loudon but that I lived with my grandmother through the week.  He then asked the address and my grandmother's name so I told him and he (obvously grudgingly) let me go on my way.  I must admit that the encounter ticked me off - especially after I realized he had outright lied about my tail light.  I did not, however, use my anger as an excuse to go break the window out of the local pawnshop and steal myself a bad-a** stereo system.

This is the info I needed, thanks! I guess it is just my luck, but when I was in autozone trying the fob, I was pushing all the buttons and got nothing out of the lock/unlock buttons, but as soon as I hit the red horn beeping emergency button that one worked like a champ. I ordered a new one on Amazon today. Thanks for the suggestions.

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A magazine I got from my Dad had an article about a bear's sense of smell.  The comment was something to this effect...   You can smell the beans cooking over the camp fire from 100 yds away.  Your dog can smell them while they're still in the can.  A bear can smell the perfume worn by the lady who packed them in the can 6 months ago, from a mile away. 

That should be an easy choice. Sounds like your dilemma is over.

   I swore that not another 1911 would come home with me until I finished my inventory and decided what to sell! Think I'll live up to that vow?

Well, keep in mind that the police have admitted that he wasn't buckled in when being transported in the back of their van/truck. That is not in doubt and is a violation of their departmental regulations. He was probably bounced around inside the vehicle. This is apparently intentionally done often enough that there is a cutesy term for it called giving a suspect a 'rough ride'. Baltimore police have lost cases where suspects were injured when given 'rough rides' in the past. Even if his original injuries were from falling off the fence the 'rough ride' could have exacerbated them - and that is if the injuries weren't actually caused by the 'rough ride'. So, yeah, if the 'rough ride' or anything else those officers did resulted in or contributed to the suspect's death then there has to be some accountability.

No , yes , and tight. CIA got this one right.

still hard to find any here.  sometimes sportsman's and academy sports has it.  but they have a low box rate.  stopped at one of my local wal marts and asked the manager for some.  the manager stated they got some yesterday.  it is all ways yesterday at wal mart.  the manager stated the same guys were lined up before 7am to buy it.   they get the heads up from the wal mart app.   the manager stated some get to the store at 5 am to wait at the gun counter for the ammo to be put out at 7 am.  one day it will level out and the stores will be full.  I hope the same old guys lose their butts and will have to eat all the 22 lr ammo they got for resale when the supply and prices come back to normal.

Nice...I can't buy anymore guns or my wife will be mad...

It's New York. That's like dropping $80 bucks here...

I really wish the police wouldn't release the address of the home that was broken into.  The last thing someone in that situation should want to worry about is someone coming to avenge their friend or family member.

#s***youwontseeonthenews

His record may explain why he ran. It doesn't explain why he is dead.

and it is all Erik88's fault. Ever since he posted the pics of his Ruger Night Watchman I have been keeping an eye out for one. Picked this one up yesterday. Can't wait to get it to the range. [URL=http://s196.photobucket.com/user/kahrman/media/IMG_1793_zpsiyhs39gr.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s196.photobucket.com/user/kahrman/media/IMG_1792_zpswkzlbxlu.jpg.html][/URL]

I would have to train them to sit on either side of my chair/throne like they do in the movies.  :pleased:

Ok I think people come up and chat with you because you're such a heck of a nice guy.

I hear a lot of "nobody notices open carry", "you could carry a howitzer and most wouldn't notice", etc. I think most of those folks are actually "almost" carrying concealed, with service size heater or smaller tight to side with at least a shirt covering half of it or more.   Carrying a gat completely open with tucked in shirt and no jacket or whatever is going to be noticed, simple as that. I know because I've done it, and have gotten that attention. By what overall percentage depending on size of the thing and whatnot is debatable, but doesn't matter to me if it's only 1 in 20, I simply don't want the attention.   I also hear the "it's so much more comfortable" and "most expedient way to deploy" claims, and there's a lot of truth in that -- however, whether you mean it as such or not, a completely exposed roscoe is also an attention getting statement. And gawd knows based on the appearance of some folks I see doing it, not one that conveys a positive image to the average John Q in any way, either. (I'll include myself in that category at times, btw).   All that being said, of course I support your right to do it. But I'll stay in gray man mode myself, for a variety of reasons.   - OS

Tennessee does not recognize your individual 2nd amendment rights. If you want to carry you will have to join a group with “Special Privileges” you will also pay a tax for that. Are the rights/gun laws better in California? Welcome.