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We just came back from the range. YES... I said "WE".... my wife and I headed over to the range. I shoot regularly, she shoots sporadically. There always seems to be "something" else that has to be done... you know? So.... yesterday I stopped at my local LGS and picked up a brand new Dan Wesson Guardian in 9mm. Brought it home, told my wife about it while her girlfriend was visiting (so I wouldn't catch hell)... her girlfriend said that she wants to learn to shoot and my wife says "Mike and I will teach you".... After the friend leaves... I said "uhhhh... hun.... sweetheart.... dear... you haven't shot in a good six months. Do you think we should go tomorrow so that you can refamiliarize yourself with the guns?" AND SHE SAID YES. Sooo.... we went to the range.... she shot the Charter Arms 22, the Browning Buckmark... then I handed her her old trusty 38 Smith and Wesson snub nose. You know... the one that kicks like a mule? uh huh.... THEN I handed her my brand new Guardian. Big mistake! She fired 3 mags.... looked at me and said "I like this. I want this. Thank you for buying it for me." Then on the way home... I heard her say "Now I understand why you like the DW 1911 so much. I never knew..." Yup, she now owns a (MY) brand new DW Guardian, and I'm allowed to use it occasionally. I did tell her.... "NO pink grips. Period." So that's my story about how I got a brand new Guardian and lost it in one day. Here is Grace's target at 21 feet. Balls 1,9,4 and 10 were with the Guardian. Ball #2 was with my 45 cal CCO. All her shooting! And the gun: Before someone mentions this... YES, it is on a "doggy wee wee pad". Originally intended for dogs... it is the BEST work surface for cleaning pistols and revolvers. Solvent gets absorbed in the material, and the outside is plastic so that nothing leaks through to the table underneath. Clean up is rolling up the pad and throwing in the garbage. Easy. Hope you enjoyed the story. Dafadda

Found this, had to share... Whilst strolling round the harbor this morning about 11 am., I noticed this character shouting; "Allah be praised" and "Death to all infidels" and suddenly he tripped and fell into the water. He was struggling to stay afloat because of all the explosives he was carrying. If he didn't get help he would surely drown. Being a responsible Canadian citizen, and abiding by the law of the land that requires you to help those in distress, I informed the Police, the Coastguard, the Immigration Office and even the Fire Dept. It is now 4 p.m., the terrorist has drowned, and none of the authorities have yet to respond. I'm starting to think I wasted four stamps.

definitely a "win win"... how many times have I seen guys at the range... without their wives?  Countless.  Most of my friend's wives don't have any interest in shooting with their husband/boyfriend.  It just doesn't get better than a day at the range with someone you actually like!  I don't think she'll conceal carry with it, but it will be the gun that "pulls" her to the range.  DaFadda

They used the ITAR regulations to go after the 3d printed guns.   Stuff like this will only get worse the closer we get to his term ending. What scares the bejesus out of me is that ~3 months between the election and him leaving office. We are going to see an all out assault on all guns and ammunition, specifically imports, because he KNOWS he can do it using executive orders and by the time all the outrage will hit Washington he will be long gone. Then Hillary will finish the fight or at least refuse to reverse everything Obama will have done.   We ARE getting to a point where contacting representatives is a senseless waste of time. I contact my representatives all the time regarding issues and they do not care about me or what I have to say. They only care when they are not getting their fair share of the corrupt profits. This is no different than what started the Revolutionary war. We are getting taxed to a point it is a serious burden and our representatives do not represent us or even listen to us.   Our representatives, state and federal, are so corrupt that they do not want to risk being caught themselves by trying to hold others accountable. There have never been any more clear cut cases for impeachment as well as a well deserved cleaning in Washington but not a single representative will start the process. Yes there is a lot of posturing and talk but nothing is, or ever will be, done.   We ARE about to loose a substantial amount of our gun rights. Not because of this but because Obama knows the system and knows he can use executive orders to significantly impact the rights of gun owners. Imagine if he put in place and executive order banning the import of guns, ammunition as well as ANY gun related item? And he has the authority to do it using executive orders and just like the Kalashnikov Concern import ban anything else banned by executive order will be there forever. How fun will it be to shoot your AK when ammunition will be $1 a round? He has already put a HUGE burden on those importing gun powder for reloading.   And along with our second amendment will be an attack on all the others. We are already seeing serious attacks on ALL of the first 10 amendments with the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th being their main focus right now.   Think we are not in the midst of a fledgling tyranny? Ask yourself if you are afraid of the government and the answers to both are the same. If the populace is afraid of their government then that government is generally a tyrannical government.

  I've been on the list. Piss on Obama, and all his friends.

Hey ya'll! I'm happy to meet my new TGO brothers. I'm not exactly new to TGO, but my wife, two cats, and I, made the journey from Los Angeles to Knoxville a couple of weeks ago. I'm loving it so far. Even in the worse time of the day, the traffic still isn't anywhere near as bad as in LA. Everything I need and want is within 15 minutes and our cost of living just cut in half, to include auto insurance.   There's nothing firearms related I'm not interested in. I'm all about long range precision, tactical pistol shooting, and want to get into hunting a deer this season. We've got two AR-15s, a Mossberg 535 12-gauge with 2 chokes, Glock 17, Beretta 92F, Savage .308, and fully custom Ruger 10-22. I might also have a Winchester Mod 94 lever-action in 30-30 on the way, so maybe I'll do some cowboy shooting. I also reload 3 calibers and will be building a bench soon. We'll both be getting CCW licenses once employment is locked on.   Glad to meet ya'll. In closing, I'll leave you with a quote from a Kings of Leon song I heard recently, "If you give up New York, I'll give you Tennessee...The only place to be."

The Blades will look like the TGO Runts, two tone like these, if you prefer stonewashed like in the picture of the Punisher knife below pic below specify The Punisher logo will be on the knife like this The push button will be Black Lip Mother of pearl

Of course a lot of it depends on how this stuff plays out. Some people will wake up one day and try to figure out when Lala land disappeared. And it hinges on several other things also, as a large scale event such as economic collapse will change the entire landscape. Sent from the backwoods

Good story. I had near the same thing happen a couple of times to me but with different guns of course and laughed it off as to a good cause. I'm certain you feel the same way about it and are more pleased that your wife displayed enough of an active interest and competency to claim ownership of a pistol she felt comfortable with. All in all I call that a win. 

I will start: The M4 is a gas operated, magazine fed, air cooled weapon shooting the 5.56x45 round. It is capable of semi automatic, as well as fully automatic, firing. Fully automatic rates of fire are 750 rounds per minute. It has a muzzle velocity in excess of 3,000 fps and is capable of piercing a steel helmet at 500 meters. Hopefully that is not too technical and I hope some Congalese tribesman doesn't use this information.

And before anyone gets confused. I respect their right to carry a rifle so long as it doesn't jeopardize my right to carry a firearm. When their actions jeopardize my right that is when I will condemn them every chance I get.

Well after a rough patch that involved selling most of my firearms, including my rifles, I now have been steadily working at Aisin automotive casting since November. That means I can finally start shooting again, and I can build an AR again. Thanks to an amazing deal from a great friend here kn the forum, JCJ. I bought an unused, still in the box PSA upper from him yesterday for $100. Midwest Industries 12" rail, 1:7 chrome lined barrel, PSA flip up sights, upper, bcg and charging handle. I'll be doing a basic build on an aero or similar aluminum lower with a goal of keeping the coat under $300 total. I already added a weapon light, it is a Greg Mcgee Engineering 1200 lumen setup that I won on another forum giveaway last year. I'll update as I get the build rolling. Thanks guys Sent from the backwoods

That is a cool target. I have a packet of 'battleship' targets where you, basically, play battleship with guns. Fun targets. I have never seen the 'pool' targets, though - and they look like a lot of fun, too. I have to admit, though, that there is something about a lady practicing by target shooting at balls that makes me feel a wee bit uncomfortable :surrender: . Thanks for the tip on the pee pads. I got some for my dog when she was a puppy but she never really used them. She might be the easiest dog to house break I have ever seen. Consequently, I have a whole, big pack of those things in the bottom of my bathroom closet that I ended up not needing. Hmmm...if she really likes pink grips then he could have a set of the otherwise verboten pink grips put on her new gun. Maybe that would be enough to push it over the top and convince her that he only got it because he wanted to give her a special present?

http://youtu.be/jsmcDLDw9iw http://youtu.be/geHLdg_VNww

I'd hate to get hit by any of it.

They can eat :poop: and die.

All Have Been Shipped Here is the Professional picture of the official TGO TR4 TGO David #00 Willis68 #1, #68 and 2 others MacGyver #2 JRM #40 and another any number hipower #5 Stonewashed KahrMan #34 #12 Stonewashed Fourtyfive #.45 and #45 Both stonewashed tnhawk #49 LINKS2K #3 Lumber_Jack #7 TacoBubba #9 tjc357, any number VERO1, NO Punisher Logo, any number musicman #15 Schadenfreude, any number gjohnsoniv #4 mootw, any number, stonewashed zybysco #77 MP5Rizzo lowest available numer Emperor_Po #13 NO PUNISHER LOGO pieslinger #17 East TN Patriot #19 Resevoir Dog #39 Stonewashed Major Kong #16 wewoapsiak​ any number, NO PUNISHER LOGO still ugly #6 tarheelbball #44 xRustyx #22 bigtruuck, any number LagerHead #73. Wicked1911 #18 bubbadavis #55 Darsk20 #69 Gear Head Works SouthernLion #33 otnman #129 CJDore #25 bud #615 no Punisher Eric88 #8 jbravo #21 Luap #10 and #79 JPS #11 Warpig #127 no Punisher TMF ​#586

Magic customGodson Ultimate SNG Damascus Dave sent me these pictures before the show, I saw all of these besides the Magic which I wanted badly but it sold before I got there, these are some of the best looking knives that were at the show, I settled for a carbon fiber inlaid brushed stainless steel frame Magic that I plan on having Dave upgrade it eventually to a damascus blade, these are only a few of what Protech had and almost all of thes high dollar custom knives were sold before I left at 5pm yesterday

I looked hard at an A1, and wound up building an A2. You can buy all the parts to build a true A2 if you're inclined. A1 ain't so easy. No such thing as a new triangular handguard for one thing.

I'm in for one.  Stonewashed.

anything that is made by hand or takes the skill of using your hands always takes time and patience, I remember the times when I would be rushed in to a repair of an engine or refer unit and I would end up busting a knuckle worse that it had to be. I hope to have gone through enough reading and viewing to avoid to many mistakes, but know that I will make some. But I do have some ideas in mind that might make for a better product as far as holsters, with belts you cant fix what's done the wheel has been made and ya cant improve to much.

Guses I'm in for number four as per my usual.

  Wait for a holiday like the 4th of July.  For Memorial day, I remember PSA had that blem lower w/ MOE furniture for about $30 or $40 less.

Dayum - i promise to never hog the remote at you house! [emoji12]

  Of curse I never claimed I could predict the future.  A whole lot of things have to happen or not happen before it turns into a shooting war.  After a few bloody battle the America people could wake up and vote in people who actually do care about the Constitution and they restore order.  There are hundreds of ways it can play out.  Hell a few members of the region of peace could get nukes into Chicago, Denver, and Phili witch would change the entire political landscape overnight.   Thanks Robert

You gotta change that train of thought there!! Go buy another one and tell her it's just like yours, but special, for her. I bought my husband a Glock 29 for his birthday. Without shooting it, I knew I liked it was to much. Two weeks later I got one for myself, to not take his. Because I would have wanted to. It's hard to trick women, but if done right, I bet you can make it look like a special present, you know, because you love her!

I'm in  for #49.  Two tone blade.

Any chance you could post some pics of the earlier runs to give us an idea? I wasn't in on them.

  We are way to far out for those numbers to mean much of anything at this point.  8 Years ago I though it was going to be Clinton not the big O that was getting the node this far out.  Like many elections this is going to come down to Florida and Ohio.  If the Rep candidate can't take those two states they can't get the Whitehouse.  Hopefully with Decent Rep Governers in both states that will help.  Then again with VA and NC being pretty purple of late who knows how it will end up being.  Hopefully we can get a real constitutive POTUS and not another Bush and maybe if we can actually shrink the size and scope of government some then Northen VA will stop overriding the rest of the state of VA and will return to it solidly Red roots.     Thanks Robert

I'm in for #34 with the stone washed blade.  Payment sent.

I certainly not a lawyer or knowledgeable about the law, but if the potus, atty gen and various politicians can circumvent the constitution does it really matter if they say "we" can't talk about a gun?? If "we the people" don't stand up now we are going to be like the Brits and Aussies and will have a single shot gun that is locked up in an amory across town that we can check out and shoot at an approved range for a fee of $$$$$ that the elitist dictate we pay. Hell the idiots in charge are more concerned with climate change which we all know cannot be controlled than they are about controlling the flood of illegal immigrants across the borders. If you think this is bad, just wait until the next Clinton gets in the WH, if you are able to purchase and have in your hand a slingshot you will be lucky!! Get ready it is coming to a town near you real fast!!! BTW I hope I am wrong about whom the next potus will be.

Be careful of "repeaters". They take a wireless signal and pass along a re-boosted signal. Great for getting Wi-Fi to a place that you can't reach with ethernet cables. However, the signal will bottleneck and only be as strong as the signal it can receive. So if the signal you can get from wherever you place it is weak, you'll just be passing along a weak signal. Also, a repeater can only EITHER transmit or receive at any given moment, it can't do both like a hotspot, switch or router. What that means is you start of with half the bandwidth you think you should have.   The better option is to use hotspots that can be wired with ethernet cables. If you can get cables to your hotspots you'd be way better off. If you have an old wireless router laying around, most times you can turn them into a hotspot.   A good plan would be to put a gigabit switch in a central location, then run Ethernet cables to each location that requires a wired connection, plus wire your modem/router and each hotspot into the switch, and then use wireless cards for the stuff you don't want to run cables to.   I've had mixed results with WiFi cards in PC's. I bought a top of the line wireless modem / router and my work laptop would connect but had horrible reception. My wife's laptop worked just fine with it. I ended up putting a hotspot in that sits right next to the modem just so I could connect with my laptop. I have a home theater PC with one of those USB WiFi adapters (no external antenna) sitting about 15' from the hotspot and it gets mediocre, at best, reception. I also have a Raspberry Pi computer that I'm playing with as a Media center, and it has a similar USB adapter, and it works great. My PC in the office has a PCI WiFi card with 3 external antennas, and it gets pretty good reception, and it is twice as far away and around a few more corners than the HTPC is. From my personal experience, if you are going to do WiFi cards, get ones with antennas for best reception.   I'm going to either replace the USB adapter in the HTPC with a PCI card, or just go ahead and wire it in. I ran an Internet speed test, and I'm getting 5mb/s with the current setup. I then strung a cable all the way across the floor to the modem and got 25mb/s. For streaming movies, I want the faster speed. It's so frustrating to see the movie stop every so often to wait for it to buffer.   A $200 budget may be cutting it close, but like I said if you can reuse equipment, or get stuff from friends, or buy used from Craigslist, you can save some money.    Good luck

This documentary highlights the foreign cemeteries and memorials honoring the sacrifices of the U.S. Military on behalf of other nations. If you are a retired veteran, or active this film will show the love these people have for our troops.  In other countries,  I never known how many cemeteries where cared for. I knew a few but was shocked when I viewed this film.  I will admit it is a depressing film but I still needed to see it. I lost 3 uncles and 2 cousins An uncle in WWI  2 uncles in WWII A cousin in WWII and a cousin in Vietnam  .  I stumbled upon this film one night on PBS.  Well I  had to stop a half dozen times while watching it. It is a heart wrenching film about all the men who died in battle. The amazing  thing is how these countries all over Europe have taken so much care and interest of the hundreds of thousands of graves.  It should be shown in every school in America.   https://youtu.be/xOPywsx0MKM

I just swapped out the old mossberg 500 for my recently built PSA 5.56 pistol w/ Sig brace for home defense and had the same question. Ended up using the Winchester PDX1 split core 223 ammo.

If you're worried about over penetration, you'll be better served with factory jacketed hollow points out of a center fire pistol, no smaller than 9mm, or a 20 or 12-gauge loaded with bird shot and an open cylinder/no choke (immediate spreading). Any 55 grain .223 ammo should go right through a human being without armor on, unless it's designed to hit the brakes in tissue by fragmenting on impact. Bad guys seldom wear armor. If all you have for home defense is an AR-15, I'd reload it and develop a light load. If reloading isn't an option for you, then go with a bullet that is designed to expand at least a little (polymer tipped bullet like Z-max or A-max, Nosler Varmageddon will expand some. But more than ever, knowing your target and considering it's background applies to you.   Jm2c

I'm there for #5 in a stonewashed blade. Thanks buddy.

I got an email from the NRA today entitled, "Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech"  Of course, they urgently want me to send money.  I've learned that I have to check emails like this from the NRA for truth.  I have found that they mis-characterize or tell bold face lies to get us to send money.   I found and read the source document.  The document wasn't easy to read and I'm not sure exactly what it said.  It certainly didn't say anything about a gag order on firearm related speech.  As best I could tell, it's meant to keep information about weapons systems out of the hands of the bad guys.   It's also possible that it is wolf in sheep's clothing.  However, they shouldn't be saying things like, "gag order on ....."     It really irritates me that I can't trust the NRA to be honest about when there is really an issue.   I'm grateful for the NRA.  We have the gun freedom's that we have in large part because of them.  I may get a Lifetime membership while they are $500.   While grateful, I will call them out on their BS.

It was running in combat boots that taught me you can get blisters on the ends of all your toes at once.

I just saw that I left out that I was absolutely cuffed & stuffed, obviously, Sir. But was told I was "going for a ride" while other officers on the scene continued to investigate. While being held, everything (information) was withheld from me. It even peeved one of the CO's to the point that he allowed me to use his cell phone while in my cell because he knew it would be about 3am before I would be given my "one phone call". I was arrested at approximately 5pm. It truly was around 2am before I was taken to be processed, but still zero charges, only the possibility of them hung over my head while my girlfriend was beating down the City's front door, & my Dad raced six hours - on her call - with $10,000 in cash in case I needed to be bailed out. They just ended up in a hotel room a few blocks away & had limited communication with a detective who said they were working on getting me out, but has to wait for all the reporting officers' reports. Twenty-seven hours later, around 9:30pm the next night - a Friday - I was released without incident. Period. I know I am a complete, brand new stranger (on) here, & parts of this likely sounds far-fetched, I can only ask that you folks please take my word for it. I stand here with nothing more to offer.

Basic training for me was 1975 and I am still serving. Going to retire this next fiscal year with 40. This old SGM is going to Fort Living Room for his last assignment. Not going to make the 6th uniform change that starts this summer since I enlisted.

  It does, but remember, this has been discussed a lot on TGO...you better be willing to face "consequences" for your free speech, whether consequences be from the government or from a private party.

He could have just as well carried a pistol, or even had an AR pistol strapped to his side, but instead he chose a tactical sling with 100rd drum. You think this is a positive step for helping the cause? More like it's going to get people scrambling to figure out how to ban them from the airport at the very least. This is my favorite quote from the article "People think that if you're simply carrying your firearm, regardless of how you're carrying it, you're a bad person," he told the News Wednesday morning. "But if you're not carrying it in a menacing or threatening manner, it should be no cause for concern for anybody." So dressing in black and carrying an AR in a tactical front sling with 100rd drum is not threatening? It's not that he did it I have a problem with, it's how he did it. Also I bet dollars to doughnuts he doesn't walk around all day everyday with that strapped to his chest. He was looking for personal attention, not exercising his rights for a just cause.

Oh and while this is a gun owners/enthusiast website, the vast majority of us aren't fanatics, just normal guys who want to be left alone while we carry concealed

  Did I say I'm spastic? I'm not gonna use a belt sander on a $450 knife when I have an Edgepro in the closet. I have burned an edge with the Worksharp. All you gotta do is stop moving for a second to do that. I use my worksharp, just not on the expensive stuff.   BTW... the Ken Onion version of the Worksharp is better. You can vary the speed and angle with it. I was gonna get one, and just never got around to it. I have lots of respect for Ken, and have a few of his designs.   http://www.worksharptools.com/knife/sharpeners/knife-sharpener/knife-tool-sharpener-ken-onion-edition.html

  I believe it was Ivan Chesnokov who once said...   WHY YOU WANT RAIL FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING!  OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO F*** YOURSELF IN A**HOLE FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO?  RIFLE IS FINE. YOU F*** IT, IT ONLY GET HEAVY AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT ON SIDE OF RIFLE.

again,  just because you can does not mean you should.

This is bad for gun rights when someone shows off like that.  I bet he rarely carries, except for going to the local Wal Mart at 6AM to buy ammo to resell.

Legal?  Yeah, but a pretty stupid thing to do.  It will hurt us in the long run.

Thank you TrickyNicky! :up:   Duane Allman is my favorite guitarist...no one could play a slide guitar better. Duane played as a studio musician or guest with many of the best artists of the era.   His work on Boz Scaggs "Loan Me a Dime" is remarkable. I never tire of it.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTFvAvsHC_Y

Charlie is from a different time, a different world. They just don't make fellas like him anymore.  He is one of THE nicest gentlemen the state of TN has to offer.