Baby snake ID?

[Sam1]

Any ideas?  Found this little thing on a glue trap in the garage, hoping it's just a rat snake or something and not a copperhead.

[Shorty]

Round pupils, so it's not venomous.  Kinda looks like a Northern Water Snake, but it could be something else.

[gregintenn]

Chicken Snake.

[Sam1]

11 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

Chicken Snake.

That what I was hoping... If not, I would have bought a flamethrower to decon a few square acres.

[quietguy]

1 minute ago, Sam1 said:

That what I was hoping... If not, I would have bought a flamethrower to decon a few square acres.

Sand works better than the flame-thrower.  

[E4 No More]

1 hour ago, quietguy said:

Sand works better than the flame-thrower.  

OK, I'll bite...why sand?

[peejman]

Might also be a pine snake. 

http://www.tnwatchablewildlife.org/MOBILEdisplay2.cfm?habitat=&sort=aounumber&typename=Reptile&Taxonomicgroup=Reptile - Snakes

[MikeW]

Cooking oil or olive oil on the trap will set it free.

[Sam1]

13 minutes ago, MikeW said:

Cooking oil or olive oil on the trap will set it free.

Wasn't sure what it was, so it no longer is.

[Omega]

1 hour ago, MikeW said:

Cooking oil or olive oil on the trap will set it free.

Does that work?  I had a pup get into one of those once, had to practically shave it.  Luckily it was a furry one so no harm but it sure was stuck.  This was before Gore invented the internet so I couldn't look up a remedy.

[dawgdoc]

Most of my experience is with snakes in Georgia, but I strongly suspect that is a water snake.  I can't say the exact species it is, but it most resembles a Northern Water Snake.

 

http://srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/nersip.htm

Edited August 10, 2016 by dawgdoc

[Sam1]

makes sense, it's near our pond.

[RED333]

That there is chicken food, you should see them go after a snake.

[Patton]

I as well say Northern Water snake.

 

Actually, copperheads love water. Of the dozen or so I have seen in my life all but maybe two were in or near the water.

Edited August 11, 2016 by Patton

[MikeW]

5 hours ago, Omega said:

Does that work?  I had a pup get into one of those once, had to practically shave it.  Luckily it was a furry one so no harm but it sure was stuck.  This was before Gore invented the internet so I couldn't look up a remedy.

Yes it works... i have lizards and frogs that get caught in my traps.  the oil sets them free. The trap will not work after that though. 

Edited August 11, 2016 by MikeW

[hipower]

6 hours ago, MikeW said:

Cooking oil or olive oil on the trap will set it free.

Wish I'd known/thought of that a few years ago. I came home and found my Chow-Chow sitting at the gate waiting for me. She had gotten into one of the mouse pads. She was sitting there looking so pitiful with her paw raised up for me to see it.

Luckily for me, Cody had only gotten a little hair stuck on it so it came off without too much problem.  

[GlockSpock]

I think that's a Black Widow. Had you turned it over you would have seen a red hourglass.


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[conn_air7]

Woah buddy, don't get anywhere near that thing. That there looks to be a Black Mamba. I'm no snake expert or anything, but I'm fairly certain on this one. They are native to Tennessee, can't believe no one else has told you this.


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[conn_air7]

On a more serious note, think about these 4 things when coming in contact with a snake in TN.

1. Round pupils= ALWAYS
Non-Venomous
2. Long and thin tail= Usually Non-Venomous
3. Round/Non-Triangular shaped head is non-venomous.
4. There are only 4 Native venomous snakes in the state of Tennessee. (Copperhead, Timber Rattlesnake, Western Pigmy, and Cottonmouth).

- You rarely will see a cottonmouth or western pigmy, depending on what part of TN you live in.

- Pupils are easiest indicator


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[quietguy]

18 hours ago, SWJewellTN said:

OK, I'll bite...why sand?

Spreading sand on your yard will help keep they out.  I guess they just don't like slithering through it.  

[E4 No More]

1 hour ago, conn_air7 said:

On a more serious note, think about these 4 things when coming in contact with a snake in TN.

1. Round pupils= ALWAYS
Non-Venomous
2. Long and thin tail= Usually Non-Venomous
3. Round/Non-Triangular shaped head is non-venomous.
4. There are only 4 Native venomous snakes in the state of Tennessee. (Copperhead, Timber Rattlesnake, Western Pigmy, and Cottonmouth).

- You rarely will see a cottonmouth or western pigmy, depending on what part of TN you live in.

- Pupils are easiest indicator


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Snakes don't bother me but I'm sure not going to get down to take a look at their pupils.

[conn_air7]

Snakes don't bother me but I'm sure not going to get down to take a look at their pupils.

Understandable, the head is also a good indicator. However, a lot of snakes use defensive mechanisms to make themselves appear as a "pit viper" when they are completely harmless.


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[E4 No More]

53 minutes ago, quietguy said:

Spreading sand on your yard will help keep they out.  I guess they just don't like slithering through it.  

I'm a bit skeptical about this considering the various desert snakes and sand around a lot of bodies of water that doesn't bother Copperheads and Cottonmouths. 

[dawgdoc]

1 hour ago, SWJewellTN said:

I'm a bit skeptical about this considering the various desert snakes and sand around a lot of bodies of water that doesn't bother Copperheads and Cottonmouths. 

I agree.

There is plenty of sand below the fall line in south Georgia, and the number of snake species only get more numerous.  At the science museum and wildlife center at which I worked (taking care of the herps), we regularly used sand as a substrate.

[Oh Shoot]

9 minutes ago, dawgdoc said:

I agree.

There is plenty of sand below the fall line in south Georgia, and the number of snake species only get more numerous.  At the science museum and wildlife center at which I worked (taking care of the herps), we regularly used sand as a substrate.

Gotta use mothballs, right? Especially good to deter the hoop snakes.

 

- OS