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[color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] [b]WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS!… [/b][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in. First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States. First President to violate the War Powers Act. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party, a violation of the U.S. Constitution. First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs. First President to recommend changing our National Anthem as it portrays and promotes violence and is warlike in its theme. First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer Breakfast and activities. First President to initiate a Cash for Clunkers Program to clean up exhaust that adds to global warming, then extended it because it was so popular — wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. [/font][/color][color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to bypass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to demand a company hand over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to tell a major manufacturing company which state they are allowed to locate a factory in.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to fire an inspector general of Americorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to pledge complete transparency while campaigning, then hide his medical, educational,and travel records.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an and tells us that the early morning Islamic call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.[/font][/color]

[quote name='mcurrier' timestamp='1352421666' post='842138'] Senator Dianne Feinstein Moves To Ban ALL Assault Rifles, High Capacity Magazines and Pistol Grips - http://marketdailynews.com/2012/11/07/senator-dianne-feinstein-moves-to-ban-all-assault-rifles-high-capacity-magazines-and-pistol-grips/ [/quote] Of course that will never happen. Want to know how I know? Because I KNEW it would never happen back in 1994. I KNEW that socialized medicine would never pass. And I KNEW that there was NO WAY that the populous would re-elect an obvious marxist to the highest office in the republic. See how much I know?

(long pause) . . . Most women are not going to want to see your gun on a first date. Get to know her better before you show it to her. Gradually, especially if you're gentle with her, she may be willing to touch it, and, even later, make it shoot. If you're previously divorced, you probably know that after a certain amount of time, some women might want to take your gun away from you and lock it in a little box, or only let you use it when she's in the mood, or after you do some sort of favor for her. Hopefully, you'll find out early enough whether or not she's actually just jealous and wants one of her own, for the sense of power it gives her, or whether she's willing to share yours, which seems to make most couples happy. Of course, if you share it with her, you'll probably be the one who ends up cleaning it. I hope I'm being clear enough here. I am thinking that if you treat all kinds of guns with an appreciation for their power, that you introduce her to them with patience, that you use them respectfully and with finesse, and are willing to share them when she's interested, that shooting guns together will make both of you very happy. . . . Very, Very Happy.

Maybe we could make a deal and drop a state at the same time to keep the flags correct? What does everyone think? CA, IL? I'm open.

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352392719' post='841820'] Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.[/quote] Oh yeah...let's wish for civil war...that's a great idea. If a person has [u][b][i]ANYONE[/i][/b][/u] living in this country they give a damn about; how can such a person wish for something like civil war.

I've heard the arguments back and forth on the moral decline of our society, the Judeo-Christian ethic, whether or not we were founded on Religious principles, and whether we were a humanist secular nation or a Christian nation and up to this point it was mainly academic with pointers going in both directions. Last night I saw it quantified. How any one could vote for and not see through a thinly cloaked avowed socialist who has proven that his ideology is divisive and destructive can only mean one of two things. Either Americans are not very bright or we have ceased to be a culture that looked out for his fellow man and are willing to burn it all to the ground as long as we get our Union pensions, welfare, cell phone, government checks, and healthcare, Two things that became reality last night: 1. We are no longer a Judeo-Christian nation and govern by the principles of our founding fathers and documents. 2. The secular-humanist now outnumber the conservatives. You can argue that these are good things, but every part of our society that is measurable would refute that claim. You can argue that we are progressing, yet every quantifiable measurement would deny that. We only have to look at the history of those who have gone before us in Germany, Russia, Italy, Greece, France, China, England, Spain ........... Argue what you may, but the moral decline in America is now quantifiable and present. We have stripped the values of our founding from the highest levels of authority and this is what we have been left with. This is not fatalist, but I propose we let the socialist have full economic control and let them finish what is unavoidable. By fighting it we only prolong the pain and suffering that is inevitable. When it is in ashes and the people cry out for redemption, we rebuild from the beginning, fresh and new. My 2 cents or 1/2 cent once inflation catches up.

[quote name='mav' timestamp='1352397397' post='841881'] Ever since I was first able to vote (1992), I have voted straight line Republican. Over the last year or so, I came to realize that there are only a few differences between the parties. [/quote] "The Soviet Union had a single, entrenched, systemically corrupt political party, which held a monopoly on power. The U.S. has two entrenched, systemically corrupt political parties, whose positions are often indistinguishable, and which together hold a monopoly on power. In either case, there is, or was, a single governing elite, but in the United States it organized itself into opposing teams to make its stranglehold on power seem more sportsmanlike." Dmitry Orlov Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century - OS

Sheesh. While I am certainly no Iran apologist, would we not try to shoot down another country's drone if it was flying over our soil? Fellas, all of this neocon foreign policy adventurism is one of the reasons the Republican party is in the toilet. FWIW, the Obamaphone is nothing new, although it is more frequent in its usage. The original program was Lifeline and it was created under the Reagan administration. During GW's term, cell phones started to be handed out. The whole thing is more entitlement freebie bs, but at least be fair in your criticism.

People dont care as long as the mail is delievered on the 1st and 15th

[quote name='Lester Weevils' timestamp='1352355497' post='841685'] I don't think Obama is a better prez than GWB. But also don't think GWB was a better prez than Obama. It is a difficult thing to decide which sucks least. Kinda like trying to decide which is least painful-- a kidney stone, an infected erupted tooth, or a herniated disc? [/quote]It's not difficult for me at all, GWB wasn't a socialists at heart; he would have NEVER let four Americans die while watching it on TV and done NOTHING to stop it. Further, I believe, at the end of the day, he was an honest man who truly loved and wanted the best for the United States...I can say NONE of those things about Obama. "Policies" are important but, at least for me, honesty, integrity and a true love of country are at least as important.

A happily married man with combat experience seeks to impress no one, only find a level of comfort for his weary sole.

At least two members here have mentioned they've been laid off this week. HvyMtl, you need to let all these companies know how well the economy is doing, and maybe mention what a great deal Obamacare will be - that being the impetus for these closings. Show 'em some cherry picked graphs, that'll do it. The second order effects, companies shutting down or downsizing due to losing corporate customers and the hit the economy is going to take just before the new taxes cut in are really going to be dramatic.

[quote name='Moped' timestamp='1352432431' post='842254'] OS for President of the Nation of Tennessee! [/quote] If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve. - OS

Least it wasn`t one of those AR-47`s..

I got an idea! Lets kick out Tennessee instead of Texas and then none of us has to move to Texas!!!

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352412383' post='842047'] We know... [/quote] You may know, but I would be willing to bet money that most people, that includes some here, that are criticizing did not know.

It's not fear mongering... just being a good squirrel. I find myself reluctant to go to the range now because I don't want to use up ammo.

[quote name='KOM2' timestamp='1352397125' post='841877'] Maybe we could make a deal and drop a state at the same time to keep the flags correct? What does everyone think? CA, IL? I'm open. [/quote] I would want TX to drop off, so I can move to the new republic of TX

[quote name='Moped' timestamp='1352332058' post='841432'] Nothing is going to happen, unless there is some sort of economic meltdown. I think there is a chance that it could happen, but if not, we will all be voting in the next Presidential election in 2016. [/quote]I hold two bachelor degrees in Accounting and Public Finance and a Master's as well but basic math tells me that a financial meltdown is inevitable. I won't be stupid enough to try and predict "when" but no one and no country can continue to spend nearly 150% of what it takes in and survive...no amount of manipulating the numbers can or will change that...no amount of additional taxation or even confiscation of all wealth can change that. We are going to have some severe pain to go through; Romney may (MAY) have been able to avert it but I doubt it and Obama and the current Congress sure as hell won't.

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1352166917' post='839738'] Obama probably couldn't get 10% of the military vote, and he knows it. [/quote]While completely immaterial at this point, he got Colin Powell's support. What a horses ass/turncoat that guy proved to be...thank God HE didn't run for president.

Funny...I thought there were no differences between Romney and Obama and especially on firearms related/gun control issues since Romney was the ONLY one of the two candidates who had signed an assault weapons ban. Maybe I'm wrong and of course, we'll never know, but I doubt Romney would be going this direction. Oh well...if you can't beat them (and apparently we can't) we might as well join them so I hope they make all future gun manufacturer and sales illegal because that's going to make what I have (not that I admit to having any) worth a hell of a lot on the black market.

Take $200 and find a used 500 or 870. Honest preference is where you like the safety selector. There is really nothing more to it than that really. You can spend more or get a little more sophisticated with more money, but these will fit the bill nicely. [quote name='Runco' timestamp='1352346069' post='841619']a shotgun just point in the general direction, and no accuracy is required.[/quote] Ummm...No

[quote name='Steelharp' timestamp='1352334612' post='841476'] Is he a troll? He has 244 active posts; he didn't just join, he's been here for almost 3 years. True, not a terribly active member, for whatever reasons he may have. Does a differing opinion constitute being a troll?[/quote] No, not until he attacked a guy for having a different opinion. Just stirring the pot. He knew he was going to get naysayers, and that's cool. But ETP didn't insult him or anything and this dude was a dick about it for no reason. He should go piss up a rope, elsewhere.

It is tempting to say let the lefties have it so we can start over...but we will lose our guns, freedom, and happiness in the meantime, and probably die before the rebuilding begins. Its like a German-Jew lamenting in 1938 that he hopes Hitler gets his way so that society collapses and they can build a new unified Jew friendly Deutschland. Did I just compare The Left to the Nazis? They are all totalitarians, so sure. I did.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352318733' post='841253'] You're a very sad example of an individual to assume that I can't articulate myself or support my stance because my response wasn't within the time frame your expected. I would challenge you in a game of wit, but clearly you're unarmed.[/quote] Never mind my above comment. Clearly you're trolling. Piss off.

You will get what you ask for (and deserve) in voting for him. A representative Republic can only stand until people realize they can vote themselves prosperity. I now feel like a fool for risking my life in war(s) for people like you.

[quote] Senator Dianne Feinstein Moves To Ban ALL Assault Rifles, High Capacity Magazines and Pistol Grips [/quote]I can definitely understand the pistol grips ........ very, very dangerous. They alone are responsible for countless killings and should be outlawed! How rediculous! I'm so sick of this crap. I wish the great leaders of this country would put this kind of effort into something a lot more helpful like ridding our neighborhoods of illegals, meth-heads, drug dealers, rapists, thugs and child molesters. Oh, wait a minute ....... what am I thinking? Those are the majority of voters that they count on each election. Defending this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, is defined by our 2nd amendment rights. It's what made us who we are. Who in their right mind would even consider taking that away.......... I vote we send anyone who pushes these types of senseless bans over to the front lines for 6 months to a year and have them face to face with real killers. I bet they crap in their pants and go into the fetal position. Don't sit behind a cushy desk telling us, the sheeples, what works best. Get your ass out in the real world for a wake-up call. Let's wake them up to the realities of war, terror and the hatred towards all Americans. Maybe, just maybe, the true value of freedom and what it might actually take to keep it will sink in. I know, I know, I'm just dreaming .............

I will laugh if it turns out she purchased the firearms for him and she gets slammed just as hard as he does. It is also strange to me that she had a recorder going.

[quote name='SGilbert' timestamp='1352407288' post='841993'] Walmart is far from indispensable (IMO). .... and i aint buying guns from them.[/quote] [quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352409063' post='842016'] .... (because WallyWorld is against my religion) [/quote] I'm buying ammo and guns form Ruger, Colt, Remington, Mossberg, Smith & Wesson, Winchester, CCI, Federal, etc., and don't much care which place stocks it for the best price, and files the 4473s. An American company, hiring Americans, selling as many American made products as anyone else, making money for American investors and paying American taxes. Only in America could such an American success story have so many American detractors. - OS

I will preface this by saying, I met my wife at a mutual friend's house where a bunch of people had gathered to do some shooting. With that said, the first date we went on, I picked her up, and before I backed my truck out of the driveway, I said something to the effect of, "I just want to let you know, I carry a gun all the time, pretty much everywhere I go. If that is a problem, we should just quit now." She later told me she appreciated that, and she was glad I carried all the time. It makes her feel safe. If you feel strongly about carrying, there is no reason not to be up front and direct about it. Lay it out there from the word go, and there will never have to be a question about it.

[quote name='Pat' timestamp='1352421467' post='842135'] The leading members of TGO should comprise the parliamant or senate or whatever the Gun Nation of Tennessee would have. [/quote] God help us.

Just one of many examples of why I think a felony conviction should not preclude legal firearm ownership forever. If someone is a danger to society he should still be IN JAIL. If he is no longer a danger to society and has served his sentence then I think his rights, including 2A rights should be restored. Someone who once committed a felony should not, in my opinion, forever lose the right to defend his life with the best tools we have available (which right now is a firearm...maybe someday it will be ray-gun).

That's why this case will be very interesting to watch

Give it up guys; arguing with strickj is only slightly less a waste of time than arguing with me.

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352408794' post='842013'] That about sums it up. Most of these as*h***s won't care about anything unless their Obamaphone stops working. [/quote] Or their food stamp cards.... Dave S

I say NO to Puerto Rico! I have enough problems remembering to "press 2 for Espenoli"! Don't need no more! Dave S

get all the above and more ammo

Best to take her to a range where you can rent several different, including a revolver. My daughter has an SP101 .357 which she shoots .38's only. She loves the gun.

They just want them some of that free gubment cheese. The people of P.R. want those freebies Obama is promising, food stamps, welfare, health care, and Chevy Volts.

[b][i][color=#ff0000]I think this guy gets it.[/color][/i][/b] [size=5][font=times new roman,times,serif][i][b]THIRD-PARTY PIPE DREAMS[/b][/i]: I saw a Facebook post that argued that all the presidents on Mount Rushmore were third party guys. This can hardly be true for George Washington who had no party affiliation. Political parties were in their infancy when Thomas Jefferson was elected. It seems a new party was being started every election cycle. Jefferson belonged to the Democratic-Republican Party that he organized along with James Madison in 1791. It stood in opposition to the Federalist Party and dominated American politics from 1800 to the 1820s. The Republican Party, founded in 1854, was strictly a northern party that had success broader than the presidency. “[I]t enlisted former Whigs and former Free Soil Democrats to form majorities, by 1858, in nearly every Northern state.” Try getting conservative evangelicals, libertarians, and various factions within the Republican Party to get a new party started. Do you recall that during the primary season that as each Republican candidate bit the dust, their supporters made it clear that they would not vote for one of the other guys. If there’s one thing liberals can count on. Their supporters will stick with them through thick and thin. Look what happened to Todd Akin when he slipped up on a question about rape and abortion. Desertion and derision from enough Republicans that he lost the election. No matter how bad it got for Elizabeth Warren, the Democrat Senate nominee in Massachusetts, the Democrats never deserted her. They stuck with her through thick and thin. She’s now a senator. Theodore Roosevelt ran on the Progressive Party ticket, but he had national name and political recognition. He had been elected President in 1904 and had been a Vice-President before that, having become president after William McKinley was assassinated. In the 1916 election, however, Roosevelt supported the Republicans. How many people has the Constitution Party gotten elected? One. In 2006, Rick Jore of Montana was the first candidate elected to a state-level office. Good enough until the Constitution Party of Montana disaffiliated itself from the national party a short time before the election. These third parties are an embarrassment. Even so, I’m supposed to vote for a third-party guy out of “principle.” The Constitution Party’s 2012 presidential nominee was Virgil Goode. Goode had a long history of electoral experience. He served as a member of the United States House of Representatives representing the 5th congressional district of Virginia from 1997 to 2009 as a Democrat. In 2000 he switched to the Republican Party. Then he lost his seat in the 2008 election to a Democrat. Goode then joined the Constitution Party. Mr. Goode is probably a very nice man, but he had no business running for president. Goode received 98,755 votes nationwide. In reality, America’s problem is not political parties; it’s the people. They want what government has to offer. Until the people change, we will not see an appreciable change in politics.[/font][/size] [color=black][font=Times New Roman","serif][size=3][url="http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/third-party-pipe-dreams/#ixzz2BeOl5I9j"][color=#003399]http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/third-party-pipe-dreams/#ixzz2BeOl5I9j[/color][/url][/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='Clod Stomper' timestamp='1352385935' post='841757'] Don't think it would be possible. The Feds aren't going to leave ANYONE alone no matter how isolated they are. Must tax 'em. Can't sell food (to each other) without USDA inspection. Heaven forbid they dam a creek to run a mill. Only way to escape will be outside the borders. [/quote]Once things get bad the Feds won't have time to worry about anything but trying to maintain order in the larger cities so a small group away from all that may well be able to do what they need to do and live the way they want to live.

Aren't gun laws great! The more I read the more like tax code these things sound.

How about some charts on real unemployment, deficit, national debt, household income? Then explain how cutting the number of oil and gas leases has no effect on the price of gasoline, again, because I missed that part. Then we can talk about inflation, and why the price of a pound of chicken has nearly doubled in the last 4 years. Now I know why the word 'unexpectedly' comes up so often when talking about the economy.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352318733' post='841253'] You're a very sad example of an individual to assume that I can't articulate myself or support my stance because my response wasn't within the time frame your expected. I would challenge you in a game of wit, but clearly you're unarmed. [/quote] After reading your posts I am reminded of and old proverb. " sometimes it is best to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352310450' post='841097'] I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop [/quote]

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1352310577' post='841102'] Where do you get that stuff you're smoking? [/quote] Medicinal marijuana? Unfortuantely we are going to see our economy collapse from his policies. For everyone who hates big business and the millionaires they are the ones who create jobs, not the government. Governement, now, is only there to take away from those who work hard so those who don't work hard can live better than they should. If you are able to work and don't you should not receive ANY assistance, be it for food or shelter. You should not get a free ride because I worked hard. You are not entitled to live as well as I do unless you worked as hard as I do. Dolomite

That is the great thing about this country, you are entitled to voice your opinion, no matter how short-sighted or asinine it may be. That is, until your man completely undermines the Constitution.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352310450' post='841097'] I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop [/quote] I really do respect your opinion, but I seriously don't understand how anyone can be enthusiastic about Obama. His record is totally abysmal, he has no leadership ability whatsoever, and many of his policies matched Romney's or were extensions of Bush-era policies. I can understand why people were enthusiastic in 2008, but not this time. Please elaborate on how you can be enthusiastic about the guy after the past four years. Also, are you saying that re-implementing the "assault weapons" ban and magazine capacity restrictions is "responsible" gun policy?

For me the ease of casting 30 caliber bullets, over 223, is why I chose it. Another reason is you cannot push a cast .224" bullet fast enough to operate an AR without leading issues. The casting thing goes along with my 9mm, 38/357, 44 and 45 caliber bullets I cast. If I run low on 30 caliber bullets I just melt down some other calibers. This cannot be done with 224 with intent of shooting out of an AR. Right now the ONLY bullets I buy are for my 223. Every other caliber I shoot I cast for. So for me the only limiting factor is primers and I have enough to last me a while. For me to shoot the 300 I do not need to buy bullets. This eliminates one more thing I need. Dolomite