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The Glock mat is kinda like keeping pics of the ex girlfriend ain't it?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.   -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,   --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.     The Declaration of Independence, in part.

Typical gun grabber - "don't touch my First Amendment rights while I'm doing my best to remove your Second Amendment rights".

YOUR country, at least a faction of it, is trying to flush the whole thing down the crapper. Like it or not (some HATE it), the Second Amendment is a cornerstone of YOUR country. The Feinstein bill, if left intact, literally destroys the second.   I will fight that in some way. That doesn't mean that I will start shooting commies. It means that I won't stand by and pretend that the United States is still intact. I won't comply in the way they expect. I won't comply.

My mother-in-law doesn't bow my floors. Your safe will be fine.

I went wandering into my local LGS this morning. Nice little mom and pop up here that my wife found for me not long after we moved to town. Since I have been here, I have lost count of the money I have spent in there, but it has been a lot.   The gentleman and his wife that own and run the place are good salt of the earth folks. Nice as can be and always friendly.    The day after the Newtown tragedy I went in to see Larry, and look at a pistol for the wife. While I was there I bought the last two PMags he had, at $15 a piece. We talked for a bit and I went on.   I am not one to fall into the whole pricing war lately, I see both side's points, though I firmly fall to another, though it doesn't make my stomach easy. I guess since I am not selling, or buying, it is easier for me to stand on the outside and be glad I don't have a horse in the race. I had everything I wanted before this all went down. Don't plan on selling any of it either.   So I went into Larry's shop today to see how things were going and I couldn't help but notice, his prices were only up about 10% from two weeks ago. Sure, he was wiped out of anything that didn't have a bolt or a revolving cylinder, but his prices were well within reason of what they should have been.    I bought a couple of boxes of ammo, .223 flavored, at a 10% markup. Smiled the whole time. His wife rang me up, and the total came to about half of what it should have. So I asked her, did you forget to ring up the other box? We all got a good laugh out of it, and it reminded me why I like shopping there.   The point is, there are still good people out there trying to do business. And like Larry told me, shipments are few and far between now. Doesn't really matter what price you put on it, it is gonna sell.

Hit it. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/12/29/should-the-assault-weapons-ban-be-reinstated

Lawrence Hunter, Contributor December 28, 2012   It is time the critics of the Second Amendment put up and repeal it, or shut up about violating it.  Their efforts to disarm and short-arm Americans violate the U.S. Constitution in Merriam Webster’s first sense of the term—to “disregard” it.   Hard cases make bad law, which is why they are reserved for the Constitution, not left to the caprice of legislatures, the sophistry and casuistry of judges or the despotic rule making of the chief executive and his bureaucracy.  And make no mistake, guns pose one of the hardest cases a free people confronts in the 21st century, a test of whether that people cherishes liberty above tyranny, values individual sovereignty above dependency on the state, and whether they dare any longer to live free.   A people cannot simultaneously live free and be bound to any human master or man-made institution, especially to politicians, judges, bureaucrats and faceless government agencies.  The Second Amendment along with the other nine amendments of the Bill of Rights was designed to prevent individuals’ enslavement to government, not just to guarantee people the right to hunt squirrels or sport shoot at targets, nor was it included in the Bill of Rights just to guarantee individuals the right to defend themselves against robbers, rapers and lunatics, or to make sure the states could raise a militia quick, on the cheap to defend against a foreign invader or domestic unrest.   The Second Amendment was designed to ensure that individuals retained the right and means to defend themselves against any illegitimate attempt to do them harm, be it an attempt by a private outlaw or government agents violating their trust under the color of law.  The Second Amendment was meant to guarantee individuals the right to protect themselves against government as much as against private bad guys and gangs.   That is why the gun grabbers’ assault on firearms is not only, not even primarily an attack merely on the means of self-defense but more fundamentally, the gun grabbers are engaged in a blatant attack on the very legitimacy of self-defense itself.  It’s not really about the guns; it is about the government’s ability to demand submission of the people.  Gun control is part and parcel of the ongoing collectivist effort to eviscerate individual sovereignty and replace it with dependence upon and allegiance to the state.   Americans provisionally delegated a limited amount of power over themselves to government, retaining their individual sovereignty in every respect and reserving to themselves the power not delegated to government, most importantly the right and power to abolish or replace any government that becomes destructive of the ends for which it was created.  The Bill of Rights, especially the Second and Ninth Amendments, can only be properly understood and rightly interpreted in this context.   Politicians who insist on despoiling the Constitution just a little bit for some greater good (gun control for “collective security”) are like a blackguard who lies to an innocent that she can yield to his advances, retain her virtue and risk getting only just a little bit pregnant—a seducer’s lie. The people either have the right to own and bear arms, or they don’t, and to the extent legislators, judges and bureaucrats disparage that right, they are violating the U.S. Constitution as it was originally conceived, and as it is currently amended. To those who would pretend the Second Amendment doesn’t exist or insist it doesn’t mean what it says, there is only one legitimate response:  “If you don’t like the Second Amendment, you may try to repeal it but short of that you may not disparage and usurp it, even a little bit, as long as it remains a part of the Constitution, no exceptions, no conniving revisions, no fabricated judicial balancing acts.”   Gun control advocates attempt to avoid the real issue of gun rights—why the Founders felt so strongly about gun rights that they singled them out for special protection in the Bill of Rights—by demanding that individual rights be balanced against a counterfeit collective right to “security” from things that go bump in the night.  But, the Bill of Rights was not a Bill of Entitlements that people had a right to demand from government; it was a Bill of Protections against the government itself.  The Founders understood that the right to own and bear laws is as fundamental and as essential to maintaining liberty as are the rights of free speech, a free press, freedom of religion and the other protections against government encroachments on liberty delineated in the Bill of Rights.   That is why the most egregious of the fallacious arguments used to justify gun control are designed to short-arm the citizenry (e.g., banning so-called “assault rifles”) by restricting the application of the Second Amendment to apply only to arms that do not pose a threat to the government’s self-proclaimed monopoly on the use of force.  To that end, the gun grabbers first must bamboozle people into believing the Second Amendment does not really protect an individual’s right to own and bear firearms.   They do that by insisting on a tortured construction of the Second Amendment that converts individual rights into states rights.  The short-arm artists assert that the Second Amendment’s reference to the necessity of a “well-regulated militia” proves the amendment is all about state’s rights, not individuals rights; it was written into the Bill of Rights simply to guarantee that state governments could assemble a fighting force quick, on the cheap to defend against foreign invasion and domestic disturbance.  Consequently, Second-Amendment revisionists would have us believe the Second Amendment does little more than guarantee the right of states to maintain militias; and, since the state militias were replaced by the National Guard in the early twentieth century, the Second Amendment has virtually no contemporary significance.  Gun controllers would, in effect, do to the Second Amendment what earlier collectivizers and centralizers did to the Tenth Amendment, namely render it a dead letter.   The truth is, the Founders understood a “well regulated” militia to mean a militia “functioning/operating properly,” not a militia “controlled or managed by the government.” This is clearly evidenced by Alexander Hamilton’s discussion of militias in Federalist #29 and by one of the Oxford Dictionary’s archaic definitions of “regulate;” “( b ) Of troops: Properly disciplined.”   The Founders intended that a well-regulated militia was to be the first, not the last line of defense against a foreign invader or social unrest.  But, they also intended militias to be the last, not the first line of defense against tyrannical government.  In other words, the Second Amendment was meant to be the constitutional protection for a person’s musket behind the door, later the shotgun behind the door and today the M4 behind the door—a constitutional guarantee of the right of individuals to defend themselves against any and all miscreants, private or government, seeking to do them harm.   The unfettered right to own and bear arms consecrates individual sovereignty and ordains the right of self-defense.  The Second Amendment symbolizes and proclaims individuals’ right to defend themselves personally against any and all threatened deprivations of life, liberty or property, including attempted deprivations by the government. The symbolism of a heavily armed citizenry says loudly and unequivocally to the government, “Don’t Tread On Me.”   Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence said, “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”   Both Jefferson and James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, also knew that their government would never fear a people without guns, and they understood as well that the greatest threat to liberty was not foreign invasion or domestic unrest but rather a standing army and a militarized police force without fear of the people and capable of inflicting tyranny upon the people.   That is what prompted Madison to contrast the new national government he had helped create to the kingdoms of Europe, which he characterized as “afraid to trust the people with arms.”  Madison assured his fellow Americans that under the new Constitution as amended by the Bill of Rights, they need never fear their government because of “the advantage of being armed.”   But, Noah Webster said it most succinctly and most eloquently:   “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”   That is why the Founders looked to local militias as much to provide a check—in modern parlance, a “deterrent”—against government tyranny as against an invading foreign power. Guns are individuals’ own personal nuclear deterrent against their own government gone rogue. Therefore, a heavily armed citizenry is the ultimate deterrent against tyranny.   A heavily armed citizenry is not about armed revolt; it is about defending oneself against armed government oppression.  A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government.   Link  

Sounds like a win-win to me.

What a joke and worthless! A majority of the vendors were rude. A small percentage of the patrons be they toothless and un bathed were rude and they all just seem to be able to find my feet or rub up against me and I amost most puked on the wife from this fat hillbillys body odor. 

One nice aspect of going .40 is when there is an ammo run (such as is now showing its ugly head) .40 dissappears more slowly than 9mm.

Better pick up some silica gel while you're at it :). You know what they say... "If it's time to bury your guns in the back yard, it's probably time to dig them up."

    All they would have to do is leave the building and it would be cleaned.

The "sheeple" of the United States of Amerika voted in the incumbent that promises entitlements paid for by working people like me. They have voted in an anti-colonial, anti-American exceptionalism, anti capitalist, anti-military, socialist, income redistributionist to the most powerful position on earth. The man is a protege of Frank Marshal Davis(communist), son of a card carrying member of the communist party(mother) and son of polygamist, radical revolutionary against British colonialism(father). The Amerikan people that voted for this marxist are fools and yes, stupid. Last I checked no one on my side of the fence has done one thing to oppress the govt. It is the other way around. We are being taxed, disarmed, zoned, regulated, silenced and stripped of a rich culture. A traditional America with values and freedom that no longer exists. We the American People are getting strangled to death by an overreaching and ever expanding monster lurking in the dc septic tank. 

The Dems are going to do their best to divide gun owners. They will do their best to make the hunters feel safe. It's up to us to hang together, and make sure it's known that they are the enemy of all gun owners.

I'm willing to bet the expression on his face right now backs it up. :) This AIN'T about black rifles, folks. It's about every competent defensive weapon in existence.

Let's see...a person illegally completes a federal form and then breaks the law by giving the guns to a felon, not just any felon but one who brutally beat his mother to death.  But somehow it's the guns fault.     In CT an underaged person illegally carries firearms (one which is illegal in CT) onto school property (illegal), then illegally enters (breaks in), and kills people (again illegal).  But it's the gun's fault.   Before you pounce on me, I have as much sympathy for the people who lost loveones as anyone, but we as a society need to use reason, not emotions.   Murderers will find a way--see my signature.   As a society we need to be better at identifying the mentally ill and isolate them from opportunities to injure others,  and treat violent people accordingly--separate them permanently from the rest of society.   We need to make people take responsibility for their actions, not blame "tools"

Refund issued.  Account terminated.  Wish granted.   Have a nice life.

NOT A COMBAT STYLE FLASH SUPPRESSOR!!!!!!! THE HORROR! :eek:

  Rebeldrummer's giftee has been taken care of.   Dolomite

I make no concessions.

Last month I went to Tactical Response Fighting Shotgun course. Its a two day class from 8an to 5pm. Loved the staff and instructors there. My wife was able to get a little footage and so did I with a HD Contour POV camera on the shotgun. The shotgun I used was my Saiga-12 seeing as its a semi auto magazine fed shotgun to make it a little easier on my 1 armed ass lol.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0L5tinuAI

  Use the AR to buttstroke him in the mouth and leave the AR in his hands as he spits out teeth. It's kind of the same thing.

"It's spreading like wildfire!"   "It IS a wildfire!"   Best part. What was the story on that? Tracers?   - OS

M&P triggers are hit or miss. I have a new Shield in .40 and it has some of the mildest recoil I have ever felt. Less than a LCP and less than j frame .38

    I never never considered Dick's to be a source for guns and ammo.   Per Troy, Dicks was selling them undercost.   seriously how does a business make any money selling anything under cost?   It Troy has products available on hand they should find the customers that Dick screwed and try to work out something for those customers as good PR.   BTW if Troy does have left over inventory, I believe they could truck it direct to TN and sell it quick.

well i guess we know now why the push for gun control. dont let PETA get hold of this. Poor bird

  Thanks. I'll have to look into that. While the .40 recoil wasn't as bad as I had heard...The crappy trigger was true. I like the way it breaks but it's like plowing gravel to get to it.

[quote name="DaveTN" post="871597" timestamp="1356818742"]   Could I be wrong, sure; but I don’t think I am. If I am wrong I will be the first to acknowledge your vision and apologize for ever questioning you.[/quote]Sadly at that point I think neither of us will care. I tend to err (and prepare) on the side of caution. You on the other hand have much more faith in things turning out alright than I do. What can I say. Better to have to have expected it and been wrong than to have trusted and been burned and caught unprepared. As they say, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. I have faith in (regular) people, just not anyone involved in politics. Can't trust 'em.

I know! What if we make it illegal to shoot someone, perhaps with an exclusion for self defense? :waiting:

I'll run my lead 38's through a 9mm sizing die somtimes when I'm running low.

Nazius twatus can kiss my assimus

Not arguing that Dave, but the point that people like Commando68, I and others are making is that it is GOVERNMENT which is the one drawing the line in the sand, moving the goal posts, not the citizens.  We are not usurping power.  We are not acting in a tyrannical manner.  They are.  Who knows when the straw that breaks the camel's back will be added.  We are not hoping that it happens anytime soon, God forbid.  We are not advocating attacking govt. (physically), but when they start attacking us (physically), at that time I hope that you will be with us and not with them.  That is what everyone is saying in all of these conversations regarding America not being America any longer and our disgust with govt. and what it has become.  We are not advocating anarchy.

Oliver Stone: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’   http://rt.com/news/oliver-stone-us-orwellian-022/       "Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.   Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the "nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him".'

But what would be the point in living?

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your little cereal bowl family. It's tough loosing such a good friend during the holiday season!   Dave S

You beat me to it. What added value is "which had a combat-style flash suppressor"? I think it's to give the masses the impression it had a can on it. Sounds uber-scary if the "sniper rifle" has a "silencer".

If LaPierre had held up that mag to make some pro gun point and was arrested most everyone here, myself included would be going ballistic.   Just because it was done to make an opposing point  does not make it any worse.   the law is ridiculous no matter who breaks it.

it was a mad house .at my tables the lines were orderly with no pushing and shoving. i did sell an awuful lot of reloading supplies with only 1 price hike on 223 brass 1.5 cents but i didnt have very much.i still have most eveything else. if i didnt have much to say today it was because i was so busy  some prices were outrages had i guy with a sign selling p mags for 75.00 he wanted an 8 pound tite group i told him 450.00 he jumped up i told him if he can triple his mag price why can i not do that to my powder he didnt think it was funny.all jokes aside i saw people trying to get 400.00 for a striped lower .if you come tomorrow stop by and say hello

OK, so it's either authentic, spam, or automated. Got it!

$2 bills  Guns Shows and Titty Bars.....GOD BLESS AMERICA! 

Outstanding.  Way to work around your capabilities.  :up:   BTW, just curious, why the MagPul AFG?

I never really thought about reloading a long gun one handed. You seem to have a method down that works pretty well. 

Nice video, good to see you out training.  Fighting shotgun is probably one of the most fun classes I've taken.   Looks like you had a good group with Yoshi, Riley, and Fraser in the bunch.   Mike

No.  Afghanistan is what this country would look like if the grabbers have their way.

In order to help assuage your feelings of guilt, I'll take those nasty $12 PMags off your hands! :usa: Seriously, if you are going to be selling anyway, the fact that someone else is willing to pay exorbitant prices is their problem, not yours. 

Off topic, sorry, but this reminded me of a picture I saw recently. Handicapped my eye! I got lots respect for any of you guys who refuse to go down quietly!

Good thing my guns don't use hi cap clips. I prefer magazines.

i hope they all bathe before coming