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I stole borrowed this from another gun forum.  No, I didn't snope it.    1.    We are  advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few  lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.  Funny how that  works.   2.    We constantly  hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.  How come we never hear about welfare running out of  money?  What's interesting is the first group "worked  for" their money, but the second didn't.   Finally .. 3.     The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever --- to 47  million people, as of the most recent figures available in 2013. Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."   The stated reason for this policy is because "The animals  will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."

The one thing that hasn't been suggested yet would be to ask your wife, "If something like this happens again and the person is acting suspicious, what are you going to do if I'm not here?"   It's her job to protect the kids too. When I have posed similar questions to some of my women friends, I just get a deer-in-the-headlights stare. The world is a dangerous place. Ignoring that fact is comforting right up until it bites you.   You need to get her to think about security and help her come up with the best options for various situations... handgun, pepper spray on the keychain, cell phone on her person when in the yard, neighbor's number on speed dial, whatever works for her. 

I'm always nervous.

[quote name="Erik88" post="1129479" timestamp="1395711794"]Exactly this. Putting up signs(do you really think that's going to do anything, think about no guns allowed signs) and cameras won't do squat. You wife needs to consider what she would have done had this person actually been a threat. [/quote] Great advice on preparing the wife and family members. Signs do make everyone aware of your property lines (including you) if the boundaries are not fenced or otherwise obvious, plus they send a message that you don't want casual visitors dropping by, and they make it a lot easier for you to prosecute if someone trespasses or causes other problems. Video cameras can be a great deterrent if they are visible, especially to the novice criminals or those looking for an easy score (the vast majority). They are also great for allowing you to keep an eye on things when you can't be there in person, and they can alert you proactively before anything bad has a chance to occur. And should a break in, violent crime, or other serious situation occur, you will have invaluable evidence to catch and incarcerate the bastards. You won't appreciate the value of these until you have them, and if something bad goes down without video then you'd give anything to go back in time to change your mind. In fact it wasn't long ago that I had someone break into my reloading shack and go through my supplies including various explosive compounds and other valuable items, but the security measures allowed me to catch and deal with that clown promptly. Here is a short video snippet from the surveillance setup: http://tinyurl.com/m3evx5

Glock owners don't get to complain about magazine prices...   It's probably one of the strongest selling points for the platform.  You can walk into just about any gun shop in America and walk out with a magazine.  $30 is cheap when you're looking at a factory magazine.  Clearly you can go cheaper when looking at KCI or other type equivalents.   I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see them cheaper, only that I'm thankful when I compare them to some magazines I've bought over the years.

Thanks folks, I needed a good laugh this morning.  :)     To the OP... I'd do exactly what you did, put up some signs and maybe get a game camera just to see what's really going on.  I'd see what's on the camera before installing razor wire, high voltage fencing, and landmines.  I'd also figure out a way to get the dog down there when she's alone with the kids. If your wife doesn't have her HCP already, this might provide a little motivation for her to get it. 

  AR pistol is about as accurate with just the buffer tube laid alongside cheek, though. Certainly plenty accurate enough for COM up to 100 yards or so. The buffer tube arrangement is actually a plus for stability and accuracy. Holding a shortie out on a sling to steady it absolutely sucks by comparison.   So AK pistol or AR piston models sans receiver extension don't have the same strengths in the stability and accuracy departments. But of course they are more compact and still deliver a hicap rifle cartridge punch at whatever range you can hit something with them.   So to add to and reiterate some of the points of the yea sayers:   - I can hit things quicker and repetitively a lot further away than with a conventional handgun. - The things that are hit with 5.56 get a bit more wallop as from .357 mag at same distance - I get 30 quick chances - Short firearm, easily stashed - Can actually carry around loaded on my person should circumstances require - Can have loaded in vehicle with one in chamber - No $200 tax stamp, and not on the only actual full fledged gun registry in the USA - You have a spare fully functional lower that can be swapped with other uppers - They not only look evil, but evilly evil :)   - OS

 I found this humorous and his reaction was top notch.   http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/24/texas-teenager-issues-cop-a-handwritten-parking-ticket-the-cops-reaction-is-just-as-great/

You guys are making me appreciate having good neighbors more and more.

More than I care to count. I buy when I find a bargain, and stop buying when I run out of storage room.

Passed 75-16-2!      WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

  Well, if they had written it in there, would have been overturned by the people eventually, just as Senators chosen by state legislatures was.   Why? Because long history of the process shows that people hate politicians, except their own, and they want their own guy to stay on.   - OS

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1129182" timestamp="1395671306"]Wow! It sounds like you either need to move, or else seek help from a competent mental health professional. I don't have enough information to say which is the case.[/quote]Like I said in my post, I have reasons for extra security, which I will not relate on a public forum, nor will I attempt to justify or debate with you. Your reply was neither helpful nor contributory to the topic of the thread. If you have nothing but snide remarks it's probably best to keep those to yourself.

  It's all relative.  Especially in kentucky.

Dude, I have to drive north to get to you, you're a Yankee.

HOAs are full of busybodies and petty tyrants. If folks want to live under that then they shouldn't be surprised when they get what they asked for.

  Why is any gun desirable?  If we only own what is *useful*, I would have to sell 3/4 of mine.   My desert eagle 44 is less useful than my AR pistol, for that matter:  Its almost as big but holds a fraction the # of shots and is ammo picky (likes it hot and some rounds wont fit in the mag, too long).  My .22 escort is a total piece of junk, and my wife's  .25 is also nearly useless, to name a few right off the top of my head.  My double barreled shotgun is virtually worthless as well, slow to load, low cap, difficult to cock both hammers quickly, but I LOVE it.    My AR pistol gives me a high capacity, long range pistol that can be carried on a handgun permit legally.   It is also fun to shoot.   But it serves no practical purpose unless I need it as a weapon (in which case, heaven help me).  Just because it is legal to carry does not make it practical, its too big to conceal and the range makes it dangerous in an urban setting.  Its one of those things you have and hope you never NEED.

  The Classic Cast is cast iron. The Challenger is aluminum. NOT the place to pinch your pennies

I've got 40 years experience as an electrician. I would NEVER buy a house with aluminum wire. Even in the service entrance cables. It's not even legal anymore. Your insurance company will really be unhappy.

There are so many variables involved with trespassing scenarios that you really can't judge or react to them all in the same manner. Size of the land, number and type of adjacent lots, presence of fences or other borders, time of day, nature of the offender(s), location of roads, trails, creeks, etc. etc. But in general my rule is that if it is uncommon, out of the ordinary, or otherwise makes you uncomfortable then it is a problem to be addressed promptly, and is best to err on the side of safety and caution than to end up becoming a statistic, especially when you have family members or valuable items to protect. I do all of the following for my own land, which may seem excessive to some of you but I will only say that I have good reason to do so, and there's really no down side to being extra cautious. Perhaps some of you may find a few ideas useful or can share others which I will find useful. Post the borders of your land with weatherproof signage mounted about 10' high on mature trees to discourage removal. Walmart sells signs on rolled yellow plastic sheets for $0.44 each. Install fences, even something as simple as a single strand of barbed wire if you can't afford something better, or at least sink stakes in the ground with colored flags attached to indicate your property lines. Install wireless weatherproof motion detectors at all possible points of entry or egress to your land, or at least on every approach to buildings, with at least one alarm receiver in your central location. I find it best to camouflage these, tune to avoid animals or false alarms, and test / replace batteries at least twice a year. Install wired color security cameras with infrared night vision and remote viewing via your cell phones / computers. Best to use the models which have built-in as well as off-site recording, and alarm notification features as well. Cover all buildings and common entry / exit points such as driveways, windows, and doors. If you are not trained to spot tracks or other signs of intrusion, place small items of modest value and high visibility (such as small painted ammo cans, cheap plastic tool boxes with a few cheap tools, etc.) at random places on your property, especially wooded or secluded spots. If they are moved or missing then you know it wasn't Bambi and you can install game cameras after setting out additional bait. Keep a log of any damage or removed items, tracks or signs of intrusion, damaged fence or flags, etc. including archived video from the cameras. Report any trespassers or thefts to the local police and your neighbors, even if seemingly negligible. Let your neighbors know that you have posted your land and taken various security measures without going into detail. Do not share the details of your security systems and methods with anyone, not even friends or secondary family unless they have a specific need to know. There are many other components and methods related to home and personal security so I won't go into all those here. I just listed some common things related to property line security and trespassing. If anyone wants specific advice or more details just feel free to PM me directly.

Yep, especially when you live next to Democrats :)

  Zounds! Prithee tell how "most all" of my 20K+ posts have so sorely nettled thee?   - OS

You could get one of these cameras... :taunt:

  Strange man walking on private property with 2 young kids.  Seems reasonable to be concerned about.

Could you post a few pictures? It'll mostly depend on the condition of the insulation.   Aluminum wire in-and-of-itself is fine, and is still used today for larger size wiring because of its lower cost. There are basically three tradeoffs: Aluminum isn't quite as good of a conductor as copper, so you have to use a larger size wire for a given amount of current. Also, the surface will oxidize some over time, which will create an area of higher resistance (and thus higher temperature, possibly leading to a fire if it gets hot enough) where there is a connection to something else (wire nut, clamp, outlet, etc.). This is usually prevented by covering a freshly-stripped piece of wire with an anti-oxidizing paste. Lastly, all of the connectors have to be rated for use with aluminum because of the dissimilar metals. Most modern connectors & wire nuts are, and will be stamped as "AL/CU" somewhere on them.   What are you wanting to do?

Get a book, and reloading is not madness. Casting is a whole nother story, it is where the madness is.

Got my P238 Scorpion a baby brother to play with at the range. Price was too good to pass up. GSG/Sig 1911-22

Just be aware that if you don't have signs up a person isn't trespassing until you tell them to leave and they don't. So the moral of the story is: put the signs up today.

Well, I wish the issue was as simple as many people like to believe. On a general issue, not all HOAs are the same. I have lived in very restrictive HOA communities, but now live in one with a very limited HOA. if you are buying property, you should be asking this stuff long before the closing. Any decent realtor will be able to get the information for you before you even make an offer on the property (which is the time to be concerned -- closing would be too late to back out on the sales agreement). Second, an HOA is an CONTRACT. If you buy the property, you agreed to the restrictions (or the manner in which restrictions are changed or added). So, the constitutional issue does (to some degree) take a back seat to the contract. In this specific case (which appears to be a restriction that was added, rather than being in the original covenants), there might be more of a constitutional issue. However, if it had been in the original covenants, I think it would be hard to challenge. There is a law review article that was based on this HOA. https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/1774-wahl15upajconstl10032013

  Exactly this. Putting up signs(do you really think that's going to do anything, think about no guns allowed signs) and cameras won't do squat.    You wife needs to consider what she would have done had this person actually been a threat. 

Comments I heard were that the rental fees were very high.

If the Governor signs this, Autos for me from now on! While I like flippers, I will be getting several Pro tech knives and use and carry them from now on!

Could be worse, but I agree we're spoiled by Pmags.  Glock magazines in this market are some of the more reasonably priced ones out there.  Bottom line is that's what people will pay.  You might be able to do a little better than $30 for new ones.  I just ordered some police trade-in 17s for about $18 shipped.

  Nice call. I forgot all about that.

Send a PM to Major Kong. He's a member here. I know another as well and will inquire if he would mind talking to ya.

They can and do...  prohibit signs in your front yard...  and can have surprise inspections of your property including the inside....   HOA's are mostly evil.    

  "They" absolutely understand this.

  And they are on the hunt for Rick.  Looks like he's going to get yet another beat down.   Anyone catch the Mosin M44 bayonet being used to dispatch one of the walkers?

  I don't believe Weimeraners are known for their surveying skills. She probably doesn't even really grasp the concept of a property line, to be honest.      First, look up "appeal to authority" logical fallacy. Second, I do, and I neither think the the OP has over, or for that matter, under-reacted. Personally, I would approach the man if I could and explain nicely, but firmly enough that he knew I was serious, that my family is my concern and would appreciate it if he didn't trespass on my property. 95% of the time that will take care of it. Most people aren't a-holes, the a-holes just get the most press.    But the important thing to remember here is that none of our opinions matter in the least. The only thing that matters is whether the OP feels a little better now. Best of luck to you all. 

I'll join the chorus of "Anti-aluminum wire" proponents...  I'm an amateur electrician and have been around this stuff my whole working career in industrial settings... Aluminum wiring is ok in outside industrial settings for high voltage applications... Copper wire is the wire of choice for distribution and low voltage settings for a reason....It's safe, forgiving of "clumsy installation", and long lasting...   The problem i see with using aluminum in residential wiring is that residential wiring is not run in rigid conduit (...industrial installations are...), aluminum wiring is flammable (...copper is not...), there is a very disconcerting history of residential fires directly attributed to poor connections in aluminum wiring.... This fact, alone, should trouble you.... There are hundreds of these connections in your house, from switch leads, light distribution boxes, plugs,  and in the breaker panel...  I would never take the chance of using aluminum wiring in any of these locations... It takes only one bad connection (...or loose connection...) to generate enough resistance to heat up a junction box enough to flame... Cooper wont do that; aluminum will...   I've seen some connections that got very hot from loosening from poor installation (...mostly not taking the time to re-tighten the connection lugs after putting the circuit in service...) and overloading in service (...think contractors in heavy load connections like air condition and heating elements here....), that charred but didn't burn... They were all connected with copper wiring... I simply dont think that aluminum wire would be safe in any application that is not perfectly installed (...which is rare...) or adequately rated (...another rarity...)... I simply wouldn't take the chance... You are gambling with both your safety and most likely the biggest investment you will ever make.... I simply dont like the odds... More than that; there are several houses from the era of aluminum wiring installation that have burned in my area...   leroy

This reminds me of the time, recently, that I was a trespasser. I was canoeing down a pretty good sized creek with a friend. We spotted a covered picnic shelter with benches and landscaping and decided to stop and stretch. It looked like some sort of small city park or something. We got out and were stretching our legs when I saw a guy heading towards us. Turns out it was private property and that they had done the area up nice for family functions and camp outs and such. We apologized and explained we had stopped to rest and maybe eat lunch. Luckily for us they guy was real cool and very understanding. He invited us to stay and enjoy our lunch. All he asked was that we take all trash with us (of course we did). I'm glad he was so cool and that he gave us the opportunity to get to know him. I can certainly understand why the OP is concerned. And I would take precautions. But I also will always remember the kindness of strangers who have helped me too. Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

Memphis is nice.

    Rick has went full bore dumbass as of late.  When is he not broken and bleeding?  

Cause they make a very loud bang!

I'd recommend that you pass on it. It would be OK if you were comfortable with doing electrical work, and enjoyed doing renovation type projects yourself. It's probably more hassle than you want to deal with as first-time homeowners, and paying someone else to work on it gets expensive quickly.   From what I've read, there haven't been a ton of house fires from aluminum wiring, but the connections can be finicky, and they degrade more with age compared  to copper. Being that it's a house that you haven't lived in & don't know the history, you'd probably want to inspect and/or re-do every connection in the house (every switch, every outlet, every ceiling light, and the whole breaker panel or fuse box).   Either way, it definitely reduces the value of the house in the amount that it would take a contractor to do all of the work. Think of it the same as any other system in the house that is antiquated or in disrepair & needs fixing. Figure the cost of repairs against the price of the house. If you negotiate a great deal (value of the house, minus repairs, minus some extra for the trouble), then you're good to go.   I'm guessing that's not the case with your situation, though.

Who is the Georgia Lobbyist for the NRA?  The new guy in TN has yet to make contact with any of the grassroots groups in TN, nor has he contacted Mae Beavers once since session started, or before.  And yet, they keep publicizing that there are strides being made in TN,are they just simply that stupid, or are they trying to bolster some image?

I figure I'll get the shiny one with the aluminum frame. Good for opening sugar packets at Starbuck's. :) [media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgOYBu9tvgM [/media]

I have friends in most of the states. Got nothing to do with Yankees and Rebels. It's about liberalism, and what happens when a bunch of those psychotic assholes show up in the same place. It's not just something that I despise, it's something that's downright scary. We have had a few new folks show up this weekend from deep in communist America.   Now, it's not unusual for the folks on this forum to give the new guy a few pokes to see what he's made of. From what I have seen, we wound up with 3 keepers, and one that got all butt hurt and picked up his toys.    If somebody shows up sporting an Obama bumper sticker, somebody is gonna piss on their windshield... doesn't matter where they're from. For example, I'm a huge supporter of the folks in CT that refuse to register their AR's. In fact, I look up to them.   Being a bunch of folks that play with guns, with lots of Feinstein's favorites mixed in, some folks may play a little rough. If it's too much to handle, there's always ARFCOM... the kinder, gentler gun forum :)

  Well that's only partly true. Florida and VA popular votes were for O'bama, Neither is truly a southern state any longer.

I have contacted Chaves about that Redencion , a must have , hope I can afford it. I noticed his clip on his web site is plain on the edges where your is arrowhead like cut , drooling here. :drool: Oh well , just saw where a used one went for $925.00 , guess I better find something else ……..