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There's not a damn thing wrong with THIS flag. Men and women have bled and died for it. It represents what is still the greatest nation on this planet; a nation which has selflessly done more good for others than any in history. It represents dreams, and ideas and ideals. It represents freedom. You may not like what's going on in Washington or even our own state capitol, but that doesn't mean those stars and bars are any less beloved today than they were a month, a year, a decade or a lifetime ago. No, I've got the only flag I need and it's the one worth fighting for. Your flag seems... divisive to me. We don't need that crap. We need more unity.

Nope.  My annual membership at a local range is completely going to waste right now.   Kind of sucks.

Folks; As we stated originally, we have been struggling with the best way to handle the issue of price gouging. The final evolution of our stance on this issue is simply this.   The market will decide what an item is worth.   Prices for firearms, ammo, magazines, etc. are completely chaotic right now. There is no way to predict or police what an item should be worth, nor is it right for us to attempt to do so. From this point forward, we acknowledge that things are worth what people will pay for them. If the people do not want to see items listed at 500% markup, then the people should simply stop buying them and force the market to balance itself. That being said, this statement absolutely does not negate our policy against interfering with another person's Trading Post ad. As stated in our Trading Post policies:           Thank you for your understanding, cooperation and patience while we sorted this mess out for ourselves. While we acknowledge this policy shift may not make everyone happy, we believe that it is the right thing to do and reduces the absurd number of rules and guidelines that we were being forced to erect around how people could use the Trading Post. This keeps it simple. Carry on. :)

  What we need is some damning proof that implicates the government.  Right now there is none that anyone has been able to find.  Conveniently the Connecticut State Police just yesterday released their final determination of what guns were used in the Sandy Hook school shooting.  You can see the report here.   For some reason it took them four weeks to nail down the details on what guns were used.  Four weeks.  Ray Charles, rest his soul, could have come to a conclusion faster than that.   I'm with you guys to an extent.  Something smells.  I'm not stealing my wife's Reynolds Wrap just yet but I know where she keeps it.

Thanks.  So let me elaborate a little and just put this out there.  The staff and I are pretty much worn out.  Between the server problems that I've been fighting for almost 30-40 hours a week on top of my normal 40-50 hr job and then all of the chaos surrounding the political climate, we've been burning the candle at both ends and in the middle.  Something had to give.   It didn't take long for me to spot the fact that regardless of our good intentions and desire to not allow people to post a bunch of crap on TGO at ridiculous mark-ups, the bottom line is there was just no practical way for us to police that stuff.  And furthermore, we shouldn't.   If somene wants to list PMAGs for $100 each, I will be the first to agree [privately] that they're out of their minds and that sooner or later the market WILL correct itself and those things won't be worth near that much money.  But we see this in the stock market every day and no one complains if they make bank off of Google stock today after paying a fraction for it a few months ago.  This is the free market and that's just how people make money.   That being said, I'm sure some folks are getting sick and tired of the rules changing every week or two. Believe me... so am I.   That's why this is the final word on pricing in the Trading Post.  The market will determine what is a realistic price from here on out.  But we're absolutely not going to tolerate people crapping in each other's threads either.  If something is priced high, so be it.  Keep the comments out of those threads and let them die on the vine.

And on that note, I'm signing an Executive Order and closing this thread.  ;)  

I'd refund the guy his money and tell him you're sorry he lives in a Commie-ass state like Illinois, and then list any future sales as being not available to people in certain states.

I see what you did there. :biglol:

In this particular case, that hasn't been in question for quite a while. "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

In the 60's when southern juries failed to convict KKK members for murder of blacks and jewish and white protesters, the federal government stepped in and charged and convicted them with violating the murder victims constitutional and civil rights, IMO, in that case I agree with the feds and at least some justice was served. Federal agents are no more immune to justice and arrest than any other individual citizen for violating a persons civil rights. It doesn't matter if they were following orders to commit an illegal act, they are just as guilty fo carrying it out. If anyone can excuse or thinks the feds have immunity for violating an innocent persons constitutional rights then they personally have already been defeated.

The Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show is like a mini SHOT Show.  It is a huge show that has been around for a long time.  Reed Exhibitions puts on the show.  This year they made the decision that so-called assault rifles and high-capacity ammunition magazines will not be allowed to be displayed or sold at the show this year.  Right after the announcement sponsors started pulling out.  We are not talking little guys either.  Cabela's, NWTF just to name a couple of big ones.  Here is the list of the sponsors/celebrities that have pulled out.     Abner Druckenmiller Ambush Firearms American Whitetails of PA Antler Insanity Appalachian Big Game TV Arrowhead Outdoors Athens Archery Atlantic Tactical Avian-X Decoys Bangin Redhedz Bear Archery Blitz TV The Bear Whisperer Bob Mercier Bohning Archery Bone Collectors Boondock Outdoors Bowfreakz.com BowHunter Planet Bowhunting.com Cabela's Campbell Cameras Camo Addiction CanCooker Chris Brackett Cold Steel Knives Continental Divide Outfitters Cross Canyon Arms Cutting Edge Bullets Dead Ringer Direct Action Tactical Firearms Domari Nolo Defense Consulting Dominator 365 Down N Dirty Outdoors DuckWater Boats Eastern Chapter Wild Sheep Foundation Eastern Outdoors Eddie Salter Family Traditions TV Farmland Trophies Outfitting Firearms Industry Consulting Group Foiles Migrators Forbes Turkey Calls FoxPro Game Calls Fred Eichler Full Circle Outdoors Ghost River Outfitters Gone Wild Outdoors Gut-N-Tag Haley Heath Heartland Whitetails Hevi-Shot High Lonesome Outfitters HookHunt Hunters and Guides Connection Hunter Safety Systems Hunter's Specialties International Bowhunting Organization IceHole Coolers IScope Jay Gregory Jim Shockey Keystone Country Store Keystone Elk Country Alliance King of the Mountain Inc. Kinsey's Outdoors KodaBow Lancaster Archery Supply Larry Weishuhn Lee & Tiffany Lakosky Major League Bowhunter Midwest Whitetail Adventures Muddy Outdoors Dominance is Everything Hunting System Matt Morett Mountain Dog Chews NasHunt Outdoors Nature Blinds Northern Hideaway Outfitters Open Season TV Outdoor Channel Outfitters Outdoor Edge Knives Ozonics Hunting PA Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs PA Taxidermy Association PA Trappers Association Pat & Nicole Reever Pat Strawser Custom Calls Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve Primal Urge Outdoors Primos Hunting Calls PSE Archery Radical Hunter Ralph & Vicki Cianciarulo Ranew's Outdoor Equipment Revolution Hunting Rhino Outdoors Rick White Rougeaux Taxidermy Savage Outdoors SecureIt Tactical Skull Shine Southern Game Calls Spook Spann Sportsmen of North America TV Stan Potts Stay Ready Inc. Stokerized Stabilizers Susquehanna River Waterfowlers Association Table Mountain Outfitters The Warmbag TNT Archery Tom Dokken Tough Country Products Trent Cole Trijicon Inc. Trop Gun Shop Turnbull Manufacturing Whitetail Bosses Whitetail Freaks Whitetail Heaven Outdoors Wild Outdoors Wired Outdoors Woodcock Limited of PA Wyvern Creations X-Stand Treestands Zink Calls Zook Cabins 2 Million Bullets 24-7 Hunting TV Read more: http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/805854_List-of-exhibitors-boycotting-the-Eastern-Sports-and-Outdoor-Show.html#ixzz2IkKv2gKX   All these companies are saying the same thing.  It is important to stand up for the Second Amendment.   I say good for the companies. :up:  

An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. 

Depends, I use lighter weight because it brings out more detail of the gun. I also wash them in warm soapy water to make them very hard. I use 6-7 or 4-5 ounce and once washed, contoured and dried it is like Kydex in how it acts. I have been doing some experimenting. I generally use the heavier leather as a backer and the lightweight leather for the front.   I use a vacuum sealer to contour the holster rather than boning. I think it makes for a nicer holster. I wash the front in hot water that is almost too hot for you to hold you hand in. I use dishsoap and wash the leather for probably 10 minutes. I soak, then scrub with my hand, then wring the water completely out. I repeat this probably 10 times. Then I wringe it out a final time then lay it out to cool. I do not wash the backer.   I seal the gun in a vacuum bag to prevent moisture from getting into the inside of the gun. If the gun has high sights I tape a pencil between the front and rear sights to create a channel in the leather. I place the backer leather in a seperate vacuum bag. I place the gun on that then I place the wet piece of leather over top of the gun. I vacuum the bag without sealing it. I vacuum and release to make adjustments. And once everything is where it should be I use papertowels to soak up the extra moisture that is getting squeezed out of the leather. I use the papertowels until no more water is being squeezed out of the leather. Then I do a final vacuum and let it seal. I let it sit for a few hours and during this time the moisture from the front piece to back piece. While it sets I normally bend it to better match the curve of the hip.   Then I remove everything together from the bag and carefully set the front piece in a position so it maintains its shape while it dries.   After it dries for a few days I do a close trime on the front but do not touch the back yet. It is easier to trim the front before it is bonded to the back. After it is trimmed it is time to glue the pieces together. I tape off the area of the front piece where the gun will be setting during the glue process. Then I spray it with 3M adhesive spray. I remove the tape and place the firearm in the fron half where there is no glue. Then I press the back onto the front piece and place it all into the vacuum bag again. I vacuum it down and let it seal. I let it set again for a few hours to ensure a good bond. Then I remove the holster from the vacuum bag and remove the gun from it.   Now I begin trimming the excess. After I have trimmed it to close to the final dimension I use a spacer wheel to mark out the stitches. I use a drill press and a awl to punch the holes. It is easier and more consistent than doing it by hand. Then I stitch it using a crossover stitch. Once it is all stitched up I do the final trimming and sanding and bring it to about 1/4" from the stitching.   I dye the leather and then I cut the belt loops to what the friend I am doing it for says feels good. And then I use a sharpie to color in the loops.   There are a lot of little nuances I am missing but that is the basics.   Dolomite

  That's a fact.  For those who don't understand that, look at it this way.  States existed first, before Federal govt.  They enacted and enforced their own rules before any Federal govt. was around.  They only willingly formed and joined a Federal govt. for things like common defense and such.  States DID NOT surrender their sovereignty when they created the Federal govt., they retained sovereignty, but granted very limited powers to the Federal govt.

  Even if that's the truth, the media will quickly sweep it under the rug.

  It is because every AR made has a mystical accurcay spell cast upon it before leaving the factory. With the Ruger's it is most likely a voodoo curse after Bill Ruger's 10 round comment.   Dolomite

No change for me.  I haven't bought factory ammo in so long........   All this panicking BS is just retarded.  THis is why I worked for years to put stuff away.  It's also why I spend an hour in the reloading room every morning before work.     If anything, I have actually been shooting more since around September.  

Seen this posted somewhere with link to source from CNN. Pics taken today from the swearing of King O. http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/21/opinion/opinion-inauguration-roundup/index.html?hpt=op_t1 Pic 50 in the slide show

Now some legislators in Missouri are proposing a bill to arrest and charge any feds who violate a citizens 2nd amendment rights with a class D felony. I believe that's 12 or 13 states proposing these bills now. 13 states and we have a new Confederacy don't we? :)

My wife is not a fan of the donkey punch either, but it's always difficult introducing new things.... give it time. Now, back to rifles. What kind of AR do you have? Don't count any whiz bang magpul stuff into the value. A $50 grip doesn't add $50 to the rifle. Unless it's a high end rifle (like DD) I'd make the trade. You'll be able to fetch more money for the two AKs down the road if you choose to sell, or if you decide you want something else you can sell the one AK and use the cash towards another addition.

it is about time.  Last time when everyone went full fratada Walmart did the same thing.  It helps.   Hooray for you getting all the ammo, screw everyone else.  Is that it?

Corporations don't vote.  Sure, they can give lots of money to a politician.  But that does not equal votes.  Just ask Debra Maggert about that.  what you have to do is remind your politicians that not only do YOU vote, but that some do lots of your friends who agree with you.  Your calls to your congressman count for more than a check from a foreign corporation.  And that check can even be a liability when you show that your congressman accepts checks from a foreign company!   Visits, calls, letters, emails are what matter.  As one politician told me, "Money is the sincerest form of flattery".  But give your money as a result of a correct vote, not before.

The quicker that bill gets in and gets aborted the sooner prices will normalize and you'll be able to buy ammo and Pmags again.

The "universal background check' issue is polling really high. I agree that it may get some steam. I think Slick Willie's message to Democrats will have some weight. People like Feinstein can do what they want. A lot of Dems in the Senate and the House can't. They can lose their jobs over voting for gun bans.   Gun control has questionable results. They don't really impact crime stats. Can't say the same about gun bans. They kill Democrats.

It will die in conference and I believe the only measure that has a reasonable chance in the Senate is closing the gun show sales “loophole” and perhaps an improved background check. It appears that Obama is switching tactics and will attempt to implement gun control measures at a state level (using his campaign apparatus) rather than attempting to get something through Congress (which isn’t likely in the Republican controlled House of Representatives). With TN being a solid “red” state, I don’t think we have to worry about much. This is my opinion.

After cheaper than dirt reviewed their policy, I reviewed mine. I'll never do business with them again.

Volkwagen is doin exactly what any big operation with lots of clout tends to do.  They are gonna find out what they can get and how far their influence stretches.   I doubt that they will shut down a billion dollar plant that's up and runnin to make a point about guns in the parking lot.  These folks are business people; not anti-gun zealots.  They, unlike lots of american business people understand manufacturing and capitalism.   I wouldnt worry too much about whether volkswagen is gonna leave chattanooga.  My prediction is that they aint; and that they will simply expand as they have the dollars.  The next time ya get worried about that; drive down I75 south and take a look at the roadway leading to "Volkswagen Drive" .   It's the largest intersection on the road other than the interstate junctions.   Tennessee is a great, business friendly place with a skilled (....especially in chattanooga...) workforce that actually wants to work.  That's why they came here in the first place.    I say: "....Dont worry about the volkswagen bluster; that exactly what it is."... They are tryin to see how much they can get from the polititians.  More than that; dont discount that the enemies of this "parking lot" proposal are usin this as fodder to do exactly what it tends to do; that is, to scare the locals and the political class into submission.   leroy

One of the best videos I've seen in a long time.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miEmIfhfxuc    

He didn't need to have his weapon exposed. His tats are enough to scare the average person and perceive him as a dangerous individual, even if in reality he is in his church's choir and makes his money as an even tempered florist.

Just wanted to add, in case anyone else gets a case of tinfoil poisoning and decides to go full retard like this... I don't just play a forum Administrator on TV. I started this site, I own the site, I run the site. I'm not just "an" administrator, I'm the Administrator. And I'm note deleting anything. I'm leaving this out there like a head on a spike at the castle gate... a speed bump for stupidity. Here there be dragons, chief.

Loaded, all day, every day.  You don't lock up your fire extinguishers at night, do you?  Always carry a spare tire?

My kids are all grown now; but when they were little, I taught them all safety, took them all out shooting and removed the curiosity factor. When they saw them, they just had the, "Ah, it's just another of Dad's guns" mentality.

Holly, our blue female doberman at about 15 months old Axl, our male black and rust doberman at about 7 months old Axl and Holly running together. They are biological siblings but from different litters. Holly is just a little bigger still, but Axl will pass her up. They play rough with each other when they are awake, but they also like plenty of sleep time. They are great dogs. Here's a little older photo of Axl and Holly looking at the camera together. They are best buds. B

I have always said that their lives are too short not to spoil them.............especially for as much as they freely give. I have had German Shepards most of my life, my wife had King Shepards, so they are our fur kids. A house is not a home without a dog..............

I picked up a box or two of the Federal 550 round bulk packs every time I went to Walmart when they were $7.97, then $8.97, and even got some at $9.97. I even had my wife trained to do the same. She thought I was crazy, but now with two young boys burning through them, she finally understands. We aren't worried about finding 22 ammo at this time.

  How could you possibly lose money selling ammo on Gunbroker right now?   - OS

Outstanding! They are delightful trucks. My father sold his 2010 F-150 Platinum 4 months ago for a 2012 F-150 Raptor in Race Red Metallic. She is certainly a forced to be reckoned with! Not as fast as the 2005 SRT-10 he had years back, but the 6.2L is plentiful fun. Without further ado. At home tucked away with the 1969 Ford 100. "Designed for living. Engineered to last." - Ford

  Who's bill?

I fabricated every part of my camping trailer and the price was high in both time and money. It's parked in my basement, so I don't worry to much about it being taken. But, I can say this for an absolute fact... Any attempt to steal it... will be terminal! No questions asked!

  McConnell has sworn it'll never get out of the Senate. Course he had to, since he comes up in '14 in KY.   More importantly though, beyond lip service that he's for it, Reid hasn't made any noise about getting it really moving.   - OS

[quote name="tennessee01tacoma" post="892619" timestamp="1358869183"]I stopped at the Wal-Mart in Oak Ridge they have some ammo in stock i needed so I was gonna pick up 2 boxes and the guy at the counter said limit 1. As in limit 1 box per caliber per customer. I promise if we get through this ammo crunch ill never buy ammo at Wal-Mart again.[/quote] What?? Sounds to me like they're taking action to prevent people from cleaning out their stock and reselling it for twice as much, which has been reported. Dolomite had posted that a LGS was cleaning Walmart out and doubling prices. I say good for Walmart for looking out for their customers.

Couple of things... A) If you are active duty (thank you, by the way) and change your home of record to TN you won't have to pay any state income tax (as we dont have any). When I was in the Navy my HOR was TX, because they dont have income tax for active duty people. It is something you have to do through the pay people (do you still have LESs? It shows your HOR on it.). I would and did...   B ) Most states make you surrender another state's ID or DL... dont know about carry permit.

Yes! But seriously, I wear some military clothing sometimes and have not served.  I explain to people that the items were given to me and that I support the military and honor them by wearing it.  My dad served in Vietnam and i am proud of him for that.

I just read it, thanks. I will take it with a grain of salt, I dont know if I trust the man. He did lie to Congress about the dress, so it could be a ploy to prop himself up. The Prez has done the D party no good by taking this firearm thing on, we have to keep up the pressure on our reps in D.C. to vote the way WE THE PEOPLE want. If we can keep their ear, 2014 will go our way and the Prez will have to just sit in His house and play cards by himself.

Yep. I read a piece on that earlier. Unfortunately, the Obamites are probably too power drunk to heed his warning. I agree that Obama has already done damage to his party. Hopefully, most of this will fail (I think they're gonna get the background checks), and we'll have a good midterm to boot.

Note:  This article is being re-posted with permission of the author from an original posting on M4Carbine.net       Why There Will Always Be Gun Ban Efforts and What To Do About It Posted by SteyrAUG on January 19, 2013   This post will prove academic for some here and for those who read it and think to themselves "Yeah...I know that" I apologize for restating the obvious but sadly it isn't obvious to everyone in light of many of the discussions we've seen lately. The issue seems simple: See a problem, fix the problem. And as reasonable, intelligent and rational people we always assume we can fix almost any problem. Sadly criminal misuse of firearms isn't one of them, especially if you try and approach it from the "firearm" part of the equation. We need to recognize that those with a specific agenda to disarm US citizens are actually a minority. There are the Feinsteins, McCarthy's and Boxers who have built their entire careers around the issue but mainstream America isn't really behind them. The typical "reasonable American" doesn't want to ban guns...BUT they also don't want to be shot and much more importantly they don't want their kids to be shot. This is of course entirely reasonable, we also don't wish to be shot and we most certainly wouldn't want our kids to be shot. So we have a natural impulse to consider "reasonable gun control" efforts that might prevent such things. Just one problem, they don't work. If gun control "worked" it would have been solved the first time we tried it and more importantly laws against shooting innocent people, especially children would also be preventing such tragedies. Even more absurd are laws that seek to differentiate "good guns" from "bad guns" as if being shot by a deer rifle is in any way preferable to being shot by an AR-15. Back in the 1920s the streets roared with the sound of the Tommy Gun. Gangsters ran major cities and profits from prohibited alcohol purchased corruption in all areas of enforcement and even Joe Kennedy managed to earn enough for a political career for himself and his sons. In 1934 we passed a gun control measure that put guns such as the Thompson, BAR and sawed off shotguns out of the reach of the average citizen. Did it solve the problem of 1930s gangsters? Not really, the Commission formed from the Five Families was still going strong and the mafia dominated organized crime well until the 1970s. Not surprisingly, they still could get Thompsons and any other machine gun anytime they wanted. The late 1960s and early 70s were a powder keg of revolutionary violence. Groups like the SLA, Black Panthers, The Weather Underground and other marxist inspired militant groups regularly shot it out with the police on the streets. SWAT was created for the specific purpose of dealing with these extremist groups who often employed select fire weapons despite the 1934 NFA. These incidents and several high profile political assassinations led to the 1968 Gun Control Act. And while it may have ended mail order firearms, it certainly did not end criminal misuse of firearms by organized crime or radical political activists. Small caliber handguns with short barrels may have been banned from importation (which is why you can't get a .380 Glock) by the 68 GCA but that hardly stopped gun violence in the 60s and 70s, especially in urban areas with a booming narcotics trade. The heroin dealers seemed to have little difficulty finding a means of protecting their product, profits and enforcing their territorial boundaries despite existing bans. By the early 1980s cocaine had largely replaced heroin and the cocaine cowboys of the "Scarface era" much preferred the Ingram Mac-10 to any low powered .380 import handgun. As the $200 NFA tax wasn't as cost prohibitive as it was in the 1930s an amendment to close the machine gun registry was duly added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 as a "reasonable restriction" to address gun violence. Despite the fact that by 1986 not a single incident of criminal misuse involving a NFA weapon existed (this would change in the late 1980s when a off duty LEO shot a man with a registered machine gun that he found in bed with his wife) the closing of the registry became law with the passage of FOPA. For organized crime, cocaine dealers and LA gangs it was business as usual and they discovered they could import Uzis and AK-47s as easily as a kilo of cocaine. Despite the fact that the domestic machine gun ban found within FOPA (a machine gun ban regulating imports was part of the 68 GCA) seemed to have little or no impact on criminals, that didn't prevent then Drug Czar William Bennett from declaring that "only drug dealers use semi automatic weapons like HK-91s and FN FALs" so they were promptly banned by Executive Order in 1989. This of course actually changed nothing as criminals continued to obtain unregistered Uzis as easily as they obtained cocaine. There is perhaps no better example of the futility of these efforts as the North Hollywood Bank Robbery where two bank robbers took on the LAPD with an HK91 modified to select fire and AK-47s that were either illegally imported full autos or modified semi autos almost a decade later in 1997. Laws regarding importation and illegal modification to select fire didn't prevent that incident any more than laws against bank robbery and murder prevented those things from happening. But despite the obvious, politicians still keep trying to find a way to prevent these incidents by regulating inanimate objects that they believed, or simply tried to convince others to believe, facilitated these kinds of crime and that the problem could be controlled if only the specific firearms in question could be controlled. So with the problem still unsolved Bill Clinton signed into law the domestic Assault Weapon Ban which came with a ban on high capacity magazines for a period of 10 years starting in 1994. Not only did it fail to prevent the North Hollywood Bank Robbery and shootout it also did not prevent the Columbine shooting in 1999, the DC snipers in 2002 nor did it prevent any other significant criminal misuse according to FBI statistics. And it still seems that not only politicians, but even some gun owners, remain unable to figure out that you can't control crime by controlling an object. Otherwise we wouldn't have an illicit drug problem. People also can't seem to figure out that simply denying a gun to a violent person doesn't make them safe. Violent people will always find ways to do violence, the BTK Killer, Danny Rolling, Jeffery Dahmer, Richard Ramirez and John Gacy managed quite well without firearms let alone semi automatic assault rifles and high caps. And while the Zodiak Killer and David Richard Berkowitz were known to use firearms, they were the kind deemed socially acceptable in the form of a revolver. So there is NO reasonable restriction be it Saturday Night Specials, sawed off shotguns, street sweepers, tommy guns, semi automatic assault rifles, cheap military surplus or sniper rifles. If you took us all the way back to muzzle loading flintlocks criminals would still misuse them and obtain illegal "regulated" firearms. The only people who would actually be "regulated" are those law abiding individuals who by definition are not the problem. The end result is potential victims are those who lose access to the best means of defending themselves and their families. These are exactly the people who NEED the advantage of modern firearms to attempt to counter the determination of violent criminals. As a result gun owners need to STOP making these "reasonable concessions" because they didn't work the first time they were tried and they haven't ever worked. Now some will say the unique situation of school shootings (which most believe started as a new phenomenon with Columbine) create a special need situation. But really that isn't true either. School shootings are hardly new. The earliest known school shooting was July 26, 1764 and the list is quite comprehensive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States Furthermore Sandy Hook still isn't the worst school massacre, that is still the Bath School Massacre. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster     No guns were involved and 38 elementary school children and six adults were killed, at least 58 other people were injured. This happened on May 18, 1927 and all because Andrew Kehoe, the 55-year-old school board treasurer, was angry after his defeat in the spring 1926 election for township clerk. So what do we do? First we stop making concessions that do nothing and we tell people why. Email everyone the list of school shootings that starts in 1764 and continues on through the 1800s and then through every decade despite ongoing efforts to regulate killers through inanimate objects. Second we stop bickering this pointless stupidity among ourselves as if getting rid of Lorcins, Jennings and Ravens will really make criminals stop shooting people. As if sacrificing 30 round magazines will prevent tragedies or banning cheap AKs will stop crime. Before you agree to any concession ask yourself "Would I deny this to a family member or loved one if they were forced to defend themselves from a violent attacker?" Third we stop with the notion that we must "meet in the middle" concerning our rights and instead focus on taking back what has been lost. In the last 20 years many states have made tremendous strides with respect to conceal carry laws and castle doctrine laws and we have watched crime rates adjust accordingly. We need to focus our efforts on eliminating the "sporter clause" of the 1968 Gun Control Act which allows politicians a "qualifier" never mentioned in the Constitution regarding what is a "civilian acceptable" firearm. And lastly we need to start looking for better ways to control violent people in our society, especially those who would kill us and our children if given the opportunity. Because taking "our guns" simply isn't fixing it.    

Well, I'll tell you that you aren't the only one that's upset with the situation. That's why I doubt anything will pass because a lot of these guys in congress are afraid of losing out on the next election.

If you are convinced this is a bell curve business cycle and that we are nearing the top of the bell curve price due to the threat of the government restrictions, then most definitely sell, cash in, etc.  However, looking through my prisim, me personally I am going to sit this out, becuase I think the inventory that I have, in the end I will reflect and be glad I did not cash in.  My basic premise is that the things I have bought for my hobby/self defence was for me and my family, not to cash in. 

Fly fishing. Caney Fork couple weeks ago Not a great pic but a nice Brook Trout.