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  You remember $0.25 gas

When you're the only person in a room who knows what an abacus is lol

.....when "3 on the tree" meant something other than Obama, Pelosi  and Reid........ :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

...when you tell someone to roll up the window and they start pushing buttons..... ...when you tell that same someone that the high beam switch used to be on the floor board...

You have a lot of hair but it isn't on your head...

  One of the advantages of owning and running one's own business has always been that they could refuse service to anyone they choose, for whatever reason they choose.   Why should someone in the private sector be forced to offer service to someone with whom they don't want to associate? The reason really doesn't matter. I couldn't care less if two people I've never met in my life want to live their lives together. But the government shouldn't be able to force me to do business with them if I don't want to. The reason doesn't matter. The Bill of Rights works both ways.

hats off too the greatest generation in the history of the USA!

  It's easy to confuse a crappy single stage with a two stage. The action in an AR is too violent to make a great single stage work. The crappy one works just fine, except for the crappy part.   This is long, but worth watching...   [media] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypb5HXdDJhc [/media]

... when you sit in the bath tub, your balls float.   (Stolen from Grant Boatwright, RIP)

When you could buy a firearm from the back of a magazine.

true, but also the rights of the couple to purchase from someone else. If the baker doesnt want their business, they shouldn't want to give him their money. If at anytime in the transaction either party doesn't like the way the deal is going: walk away. The sexual preference should have no bearing in the business world. If a baker doesn't want to sell me a cake because of something about me he doesn't like, I will find another baker who will gladly take my money. Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

This is nothing more than another case of people wanting to force other people to do things because one side doesn't like the fact that the other side disagrees with their beliefs. A lot of that going on in just about every issue we face no matter what side a person sits on. The folks guilty of doing it are disgusting; more so than the folks they accuse of being disgusting by far.... no matter what the issue. It's that same attitude prevalent throughout history which makes it impossible to live and let live; someone disagrees with a belief so the other side finds ways to make the person submit to that belief out of a combination of spite and desire for control. We can never live and let live because there are to many aholes in the world that need their faces punched in.

  The parallels are obvious and what I believe the basis these cases will be ultimately judged on. I personally do equate them as the same thing. That being said, I also think 6.8 is right with his next statement.   Open for business to the public or not, the government has no right to tell a private entity whom they must do business with. Those portions of the CRA that affected private entities were wrong not because of what it aimed to do, but because the government had no right to do it. Just as the government was wrong being an agent of segregation, it was just as wrong to be an agent of desegregation. Government is obligated to treat folks equally, private entities are not.

Too bad the defenses couldn't make the trip, they would have enjoyed the game.

... you remember Grandpappy Amos, and Little Luke, and Kate, and Pepenis.

when you tell someone how old you are twice and are wrong both times  :rofl:

When you just don't give two wags of a ratz azz even though you know better.

You remember 79 cent gas Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

When you used an abacus to do arithmetic.

Just got my TGO lower today. Swapped the lower parts from an Omni plastic fantastic that my pistol was using and voilà : And btw, folks, I just use a paper clip to remove pivot pin, can start a new one with just fingernail or tiny screwdriver on the detente. - OS

I guess they said no defense allowed in the championship game tonight. This is crazy. 

Maybe not. It IS PSA.

You're missing something important.... She just gave you an excuse to buy another XD. :)

There are plenty of threads here rife with that worldview. Everybody wants to be free to live their life how they choose, but almost nobody wants to leave others alone to do the same. It's all "Anarchy for me, tyranny for you".

I just noticed this and I gotta say that is a bunch of crap. The Indiana State Supreme Court took the same position as you and the people of the state and it's legislature were so aghast they changed the law to clear up that but of unjustness. A badge doesn't make a person special and confer upon them power to violate other citizens' rights at will. Badge or no, if a person poses a danger to my family or myself, I will use whatever means I have available to me that I believe are appropriate. Even up to and including lethal force if required. When a government agent can do whatever they want and can't be resisted even if they are 100% wrong with the only recourse being after the fact appeals to a court structure that is biased towards their side we will fall into tyranny shortly after. Oh wait...

Sadly, the people I'm referring to are our fellow Americans; friends, family, neighbors. I think MOST people believe, deep down, that others should be forced to obey their world view.

I've ordered from Omaha Steaks before.  Good products. Shipped quickly in dry ice.

   I wasn't meaning that folks were taking up for them what I am talking about is the fact that folks are even putting a social/lifestyle choice on the same pedestal as race. It wasn't that many years ago that everyone understood the difference between race discrimination (a civil rights issue) and homosexuality (a social issue). Every decision or choice we make in life comes with some consequence whether it be positive or negative. If I go out and make the decision that I am going to handle myself in a manner that may be unacceptable to some folks then I am not going to be shocked or butt hurt when someone doesn't want to do business with me. You see this very regularly with sports figures when they have huge sponsors, If the player gets caught out whoring around, it impacts the sponsor in a negative way so they decide to not do business with that player any longer. It's not as if they are denying them a necessity of life and if they want to go shout from high atop a hill that JoeBobs Bakery is a rotten place to spend your money, that's their prerogative but when they go try to use the government to exact revenge on another citizen them and the government has crossed a very dangerous line. Lawsuits like this only serve to validate future frivolous lawsuits until pretty soon all private business owners are compromising on every moral standard for fear of getting sued into poverty.  Would you also think it is okay for them to sue a church or it's pastor because he chooses not to preform the ceremony based on homosexuality? It's the same difference, one man being forced to do something contrary to his beliefs just because not doing so may hurt someones feelings. Again, the owner offered to sell them baked goods, any baked goods except a cake for a ceremony that goes against his beliefs. The government is not creating a protected class but rather they are creating a class that they willingly undermine try to destroy on a daily basis.

Let me start off by thanking TGO David and everyone else who took the time to spread the word. The outpouring was truly amazing, and I will be forever grateful.    The nearly 24-hour period that passed without knowing her whereabouts was undoubtedly the most gut-wrenching and heartbreaking period of my life. I felt feelings and emotions that I didn't know I had. I can definitely live without ever experiencing those again.   Without going into too many personal details; while my daughter's emotional and behavioral issues aren't something new to me, this was the very first time she's not been home when she was supposed to be. When I got the first phone call shortly after she took off from school, I was concerned enough to immediately contact the police, but I wasn't overly concerned. It was still early enough in the day, so I figured she would find her way home before I got home from work, hoping I wouldn't have known she wasn't where she was supposed to be.    Greater concern started to set in when she wasn't home by the time I usually get home from work. This is when I began driving around town without any real idea where she could be. I don't allow her to associate with many of the "friends" she normally chooses, so I had only one idea of where she may have been hiding/hanging out. She wasn't there, so the concern began to intensify even more.    Thankfully, I was able to get in touch with a parent who knew a little about the boy (later finding out he was one of three boys) she left with after school. With that information, I was able to find his house, names of friends, hangout locations, etc. Unfortunately, this information didn't help too terribly much. Most of it lead me too a bunch of dead ends. But at least I had more information that I started with.   Still holding out hope that she would come strolling in, as the clock ticked 10:00, 11:00, midnight, I began to get very angry with everyone. I was scared. At this point, I didn't know what to do. While I am sure the police were doing everything they could, the helplessness I felt was becoming overwhelming. Again, knowing the type of people she was likely with didn't help my state of mind. Needless to say, I didn't get a wink of sleep. I was anxiously waiting all night for the school to open, hoping she would show up there, as if nothing ever happened. They informed me that all three boys showed up for school, but Ashton did not. This is about the point where those three boys were lucky that I was able to control myself from doing something very stupid. Instead, I contacted the police with this information. After an officer had a chance to speak with them, one of the boys told the officer that my daughter was with him until 9:00 p.m. the night before, until he made her leave before his mother was to get home from work. He claimed that she left on foot, and he had no idea where she was going. At the very moment this information was given to me, I went into full panic mode. This was THE moment - had I been born with telepathic powers - the lives of those boys should have been flashing before their eyes. Even though she left with them of her own free will, I couldn't help but be angry with them. The boys she was last seen with claimed to have no idea where she was, and I sure as hell didn't.  Every possible worst case scenario began flying through my head. Every news story I'd ever hear or read involving a missing teenage girl came flooding in, as if I had a photographic memory. Whether I should have or not, I began debating if I should begin spreading the word, or just continue to hold out hope that she would come walking in at any second. I didn't want to get everyone worked into a tizzy, only to have her show up 10-minutes later. After quickly weighing my options, I felt like I would be better off getting the word out as soon as possible.   As most of you know, she was found within hours of getting the word out. She is now home. I don't think she had planned on staying out all night, but once she caught wind that the police and I were out searching for her, she became scared. One of the boys convinced her to stay the night at his house, or possibly go to jail for running away. From what I understand, his mother works nights, so it would be easy for them to hide out. On a lighter note, I think most of you'd be surprised how few degrees of separation there are between many of us. I can't tell you how many phone calls, text messages and emails I received from friends and acquaintances who heard about this ordeal via TGO and it's members, TN Jeeps and it's members, friends and family of TGO and TN Jeeps members, and mutual (although not known to me at the time) Facebook friends of many of you. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I believe Steelharp is the most famous of us all. I'm pretty certain I had more people tell me they read about it on or via a share from his personal Facebook page than any other. I am a friend of his on Facebook, so I knew he shared the story. But I had no idea the degree of separation was quite that slim.   Again, I can't thank all of you enough. I am truly blessed to know you guys, even if most of it is via the internet. I feel a tiny bit silly for getting everyone worked up, only to have her show up hours later, but I hope this helps you understand why I felt that I had little choice at the time.    Thank you!

  Why does opening a business equate with "opening the doors to the public"?

Bake the cake, oops to much salt, sorry, it is free. O yea sorry no refunds on cake that leaves the store.

no and I am not trying to label you as one...if you read my previous posts in this thread you will see that i am not in favor of what the gay couple did but i am also feel that the baker should have used a CYA tactic instead of blatantly being uncouth....they could have found a way to refuse them service and had a little grace instead of blatantly refusing because they were gay....and it very could be that the business did try that approach and the couple may have continually pressed and pressured to a point that business owner was fed up and just truly told them why they weren't going to be served. who knows?  none of us were there so all we can do i speculate on this end.

  While that's a funny statement, accusing someone of hating just because they won't compromise their standards, nor bend to the will of someone else really does nothing to help the argument.

Not completely equating the two situations here but wasn't that exact same excuse used to not serve "colored folks" and why the south had "colored drinking fountains"?  Just how far should this ability to "refuse service" go? I'm not saying that a business should be forced to serve or not serve anyone but I do see some pretty obvious parallels here.   When you hold yourself out to the public as a business who serves "the public" I think you take on some responsibilities that might have to go beyond your personal, privately held, beliefs.

Regardless of what one thinks, doesn't think, cares or doesn't care about Paul Walker, Nelson Mandela was a communist revolutionary who was good buddies with the like of Castro, Chavez and mostly backed by the Soviet Union...Mandela did seek peace when he could have sought conflict and caused the death of thousands or hundreds of thousands in South Africa and that is extremely commendable but once you get past that I think there is much to not like about the man. Now, not knowing who he was may well be part of "what is wrong with the world" but I think there are better, more positive examples that could be used in the above comparison than Mandela.

It isn't an issue, to me at least, that two dudes want to get married. The issue is that they took a guy to court because he didn't want to make them a cake. That is childish and vindictive. The best way for them to get even with him would have been to take their business elsewhere and tell their friends to take theirs elsewhere as well...

Everyone is this country, regardless of whatever issue they have (age, sex, race, religion, same sex, no sex, makes no difference), deserves to be treated as equally and as fairly as the person who walked in the store before them, and the same as the guy who comes in behind them. The good ol' USA is going to hell in a hand basket! Why should any of us care if two dudes want to get married and buy a wedding cake...sell them one for crying out loud!     Dave

I wonder how things are going to pan out when the ultra gay crowd that demands tolerance meets the ultra strict Muslim crowd wanting the same?   Personally I think a business should be able to refuse to sell to anyone for any reason they choose. I do not agree that any one group should be able to force another group to do something against their will. I am handicapped and if someone refused to sell to me because I was handicapped I would be upset but I would take my business elsewhere rather than compel them to take my money. I would rather them not have my money and I spend my money where I am welcomed.   You can tell by the picture that the couple is a "look at me, I am gay, look at me!" type. Problem is these types go way out of their way to make people feel uncomfortable then cry foul when someone doesn't like it.

  Well, a wedding cake doesn't have to be purchased for an actual wedding after all, nor does a nurse uniform have to be worn by a real nurse. :dirty:   - OS

I do appreciate the kind gesture, but I'm not a fan of fruity cake.

   Sad to see so few kids involved now days. I'm sure you would get plenty of takers if you just started taking them out and letting them pull the trigger and go sit inside while you cleaned it huh. If they don't want it bad enough to at least get in there and help you do the cleaning then they probably don't need to be in the woods. There are some folks that own property that borders a friend of mine that are the perfect example why. My friend does everything he possibly can to raise good deer but the neighbors will go out and shoot them and leave them where they fall. He walks up on dead does and bucks pretty regular and i'm not so sure that some don't happen outside of season. That's why i'm not willing to take someone and teach them to pull a trigger unless they are also willing to help and learn the whole way through. I don't want to create a trigger puller.

I could solve this easily. Go buy a cake somewhere else. Why would anyone want to do business with someone who doesn't want their business is beyond me. Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

I'm not big on disclosing what I have where, but it's going to be a fight between me and my wife to see who gets to shoot a person first if they break into our house.

All of them. If I have to shoot someone I am obviously so scared I am going to empty every round I can into them or in their general direction.   I seriously have no less that 50 rounds loaded and ready to grab at a moments notice. And that doesn't include the various other guns around the house.

Do they even teach Pearl Harbor in schools anymore? I'd like to go to Hawaii and see the memorial, before the Arizona just dissipates, which it one day will, then there'll be nothing left.

......your favorites tunes are now Muzak in the grocery store.

Nice! I'm guessing a good time was had by all? :up:

If you place any faith in the lunar tables, this afternoon right before sunset should be great. I look at the tables but don't rely on them. I plan on being back on the ridge line right after lunch.

By all means, you don't have to keep the safety on when holstered. Let me know how that works out for you after carrying it that way for a while.

Step 1  Lose the Call of Duty gloves ,your grandfather didn't need them for that rifle so neither should you.   Step 2  use YouTube to find the old US Army training videos and learn to operate Mr. Garands device properly   Step 3  forget how to post to the interwebs until you have followed Steps 1 and 2 properly without fail.   Sincerely,   A. Garandowner