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I hope that God's grace is sufficient for Fred Phelps, as misguided, hateful and sinful as he was. Because frankly, if it's not then I'm pretty sure I don't have much more hope. God will judge us all. Without his grace, I'm in the same boat as Fred. I may not be as public about it, but I can be pretty dang misguided, hateful and sinful myself.

Romans 12:19 Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says The Lord He will answer to the one who is righteous to Judge.

was one of the best shows on TV. Could never be on TV today. Archie just tells it like it is.

The only thing good I know of that came from him was the founding of Patriot Guard Riders.  Proud member who joined to block his efforts to disrupt military funerals and now will help honor any veteran whether WBC oalans to attend or not..

Derek Webb (singer, former member of Cademon's Call) who once wrote a song called "Freddie Please" about Phelps, summed it up perfectly for me.       I won't take any joy or satisfaction in this news. I only pray that he can find the peace in the Father's arms that he apparently wasn't able to find in life.

You can look at another side of this to, perhaps a "positive?" aspect of his misguided protests. How many Christians had to really think about and in a lot of cases give voice to their faith because of him - maybe in some cases only to figure out how they were different. Reading the writings of his kids and family, his choices certainly made them struggle with their faith until the point they left. He was vocal in his hatred, especially of gays, but how many of us harbor those same hatreds - maybe just less vocally? Gays? Immigrants? Blacks? Democrats? We all like to pretend we're somehow better, but my heart is pretty black a lot of the time...

JGunner, I believe you to be totally right and I didn't think of that at all. Thanks :popcorn:

YES   BTW MTSC has great parking.

I keep thinking of the old Ian Maclaren quote today, "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

Agree to disagree.   The point isn't aimed at him, or even necessarily at those few members of his family that were part of his church. The point is aimed at everyone else. The point is to provide an example of what the Church really is. The point is to show what Christ's love is really capable of in our broken selves.

   Mike, what have you got against roaches?  

[quote name="RobertNashville" post="1125840" timestamp="1395073481"]I don't know but a large crowed gathering to jeer at and disrupt his funeral would certainly be a little poetic justice I would think. Then again; I find disrespecting a funeral to be a pretty disgusting thing to do regardless of who is being buried so I don't plan to do so.[/quote] I think the best, most poetic and Christian response would be to have folks gather with signs proclaiming forgiveness for him as we are called to love all and most especially our enemies. The correct answer to his hatred isn't more of the same in return, but love in abundance.

I think you are being a little disingenuous and painting with too broad a brush.   Some on the left and some of the homosexual community may "want to destroy the nuclear family" but that hardly means that a majority want to.  I would suggest that while homosexual activists may hate and despise the "traditional" family, and marriage, the trouble makers no more speak for the majority of homosexuals or the left than the Westboro Baptist Church speaks for most  Christians.

[quote name="TankerHC" post="1125818" timestamp="1395071141"]Seems you have already risen to that "hubris" with "[color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][size=3][background=rgb(247,247,247)]I only pray that he can find the peace in the Father's arms"[/background][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][background=rgb(247,247,247)]That would also show some certainty. Fact is, I honestly do not care a whole lot about Fred Phelps except for the fact that he has done things that no one will know wheth[/background][/font][/color][/size][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][background=rgb(247,247,247)]er or not he will ever pay for.[/background][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][background=rgb(247,247,247)] [/background][/font][/color] [color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][background=rgb(247,247,247)]I heard a Priest say "All animosity ends in death, even for Despots. When they are gone, it was and no longer is. It doesnt matter what you, I, or anyone else think's or say's, they can no longer do anything and neither can you, or I, or anyone else. [/background][/font][/color] [color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica][background=rgb(247,247,247)]His family and followers who continue to carry out his douchbaggery are a different story altogether. [/background][/font][/color][/quote] I think you read too much into and misinterpret my words. I do pray he finds peace in the Father's arms, I pray all people do. That doesn't make it so. I don't get to decide who does and doesn't, I'm not God and thank God for that. I'm far too mean and spiteful to be a just and good one. That was my whole point from the beginning. None of us are qualified to state with any certainty who is going to be given eternal life or death. The only person whose salvation I have any input on is my own and even that is questionable how much input I really have.

Piss on that guy. For what he has done to disrespect our fallen military, I hope he has a painful death. I, for one, will be glad he's gone. I just hope some folks give those assholes some of their own medicine at his sendoff.

I'm opposed on the principle that he hasn't done much doctoring - let alone the gun issue.

[quote name="TankerHC" post="1125778" timestamp="1395065908"]He won't be in his father's arms. He will enter and judgment should take about 3 seconds then he will be where he belongs. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2[/quote] Takes a lot of certainty to be able to declare that judgement on another. That's a level of hubris I just can't rise to.

In my opinion any gun should shoot reliably straight from the box and not need a steam cleaning nor a break-in period unless it is an old surplus war gun packed in cosmoline.  This is my $0.02 . 

I believe that was an 80% party where a guy had a CNC mill pre-programmed. They showed up, drank beer, and took turns putting it through the mill.

I got two different signs for his funeral...   1. FAG   2. So Long Asshole.   Somebody needs to slip a bag of live roaches into his casket.

It's hard not to feel sadness at the approaching loss of any life.   But if ever a human being has caused more grief and cast more hate among us( Short of Judas Iscariot); he will be hard to find.   Pastor Phelps had caused untold anguish to so many lives it is beyond human belief. When he meets his Maker, I feel a long explanation will be due.

The sight movement is unreal.

Grown faster with less nutritional value and more carcinogens.

The new way of fishing I'm afraid.   Seems nothings safe to eat anymore unless you raise it yourself or kill it in the wild (deer,turkey,duck,etc)

4 - 6% of the population are homosexual.  They have a political impact far beyond that.  (It's almost as if their political sponsors - the left - have an interest in destroying the nuclear family).  If a brewery wants to offend 95% to score points with 5%, well, their choice.  Not a brilliant one.

I agree to the logic, but it isn't always possible to carry a full size pistol. If for whatever reason your lifestyle prohibited you from carrying anything larger and your only interest in guns was carrying one for defense, I'd say its fairly reasonable that a pocket pistol might just be all you need. Now the concept if only needing one gun may seem strange, I'll admit it has me baffled, but for some out there who have to choose between a little gun or no gun, its an easy choice.

Mine is a 7.62x25 Tokarev loaded with a 168g SMK with a 45 ACP next to it for comparison. I was using it to shoot heavy, subsonic bullets long before subsonic loads were popular. I still long for a gun chambered in the caliber because it is an amazing caliber. It is probably one of the best defensive calibers out there but because it is an old Russian round no one takes it seriously. It is capable of defeating level 3 soft armor as well as level 3 ballistic helmets with surplus FMJ loads out of a pistol.

I don't approve of using such tactics. If special interest groups want to hold the gun of the media to the head of a business in order to get them to submit to their will, that is their business. It won't be effective forever. People will tire of it eventually. I won't support an organization or cause that threatens people to submit to their will, even if that cause or organization shares my beliefs. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Because I am the one who knock-diddly-ocks. I'm a huge Simpsons/Futurama freak and loved Breaking Bad. This just kind of fits.

Whiny communist dictator.

[quote name="orientalexpress" post="1126077" timestamp="1395106758"]So your new car doesn't need a break period? Even Ferrari has a 1000km break in period.[/quote] Did you really just essentially compare a Remington pistol to a Ferrari? lol I've heard it all

    peejman, Pilots are not able to control passenger O2 with an on/off on newer aircraft like the 777.  Passenger O2 comes from individual oxygen generator at each passenger service unit (PSU).   Oxygen generators are like what took that Value Jet airliner down when they caught fire in the cargo compartment.   I don't remember how long the generators lasts but the FAA requires enough O2 to make an emergency decent from max certified altitude to a lower altitude around 10,000 feet.  I am sorry I don't remember all the exact numbers.  But  the bad guys could hang out long enough to put everyone out for good.  :-(

I wonder how many folks will gather at his grave to have a pissing party?

I'm using win primers from the 60's my grandpa left me. Zero issues so far. Not even a bad primer.

What joy did this man have in life?  He died bitter, lonely and full of hatred.  He lived in a misery of his own and masked it by lashing out at society in an attempt to spread his misery to others.  I'd almost feel sorry for him if it weren't for the added anguish they brought to the families of fallen Servicemembers in their time of mourning.  For that, Fred Phelps and his people need to be run over by a garbage truck.

Ditto. I've always had great experiences w joebob. Inventory displayed is always correct... crazy how some e-tailers can't manage that concept!

The only entities that can violate the law with impunity are the operatives of the gubmt that are sworn and tasked with enforcing such laws... The fact is that the gubmt is above the law because it enforces the law; and to think otherwise is foolish... Nowadays there is no place that is safe from this scourge... Look at the CIA hacking of the Senate... The only fix is to clean out the whole bunch; bureaucrats, apparatchiks, and elected ones "en masse"; which most likely aint gonna happen...   leroy the isolationist

[quote name="vontar" post="1125270" timestamp="1394944269"]I went on a ride along tonight and in less then 5 hours, we had 5 events I believe. It ended with a 10-46 (wreak with injuries(minor)). It was a night I don't think I will forget for a while. I will say if you have the opportunity, don't pass it up. I was going to do a full shift, however after the amount of calls, the officer I was with was pulled to do paper work. I just might have to do another one.[/quote] 5 events in 5 hours? When I was a LEO we prayed for slow days like that! And, we never got pulled from answering calls to do paperwork. ..... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

The US has an outstanding system of interlocking radar warning nets covering our borders.  Maintaining, coordinating and monitoring these is a non-trivial exercise.  I would be stunned to find that Malaysia has an equivalent system.  Civilian radar has a much shorter detection range - turn the squawk box (IFF) off and the contact drops right off the scope at 1/3 or less the range.  So I'm not surprised that Malaysia lost track of the plane. 

Stage 1. 24 rifle, 16 pistol, 8 shotgun Stage 2. 20 shotgun Stage 3. 20 pistol Stage 4. 16 rifle 8 shotgun 16 pistol Stage 5. 22 rifle 16 pistol 24 shotgun

I dunno,  I have seen enough of the inside of police cars to last me.  Don't need joy rides in one.

tyr·an·ny ˈtirÉ™nÄ“/ noun noun: tyranny; plural noun: tyrannies     1.     cruel and oppressive government or rule.

or, more likely the reverse.

Bird shot thru a turkey choke at close range should work just fine

If you are truly on the path of growing firearms, buy a safe, a good safe, assuming if you do not have one already. 

Don't listen to people who tell you "Memphis is nice".  Welcome!

Not ALL instances of defensive use of a pistol are inside 3 yards. And under TN law you ABSOLUTELY CAN use lethal force in defense of a third party (someone else).    I know of 2 cases of defensive use of a pistol IN TENNESSEE that were 37 yards and 20 yards respectively. Also you have the Fairchild AFB shooting where Andy Brown shot the AK wielding gunman with his Beretta 92 from 70 yards away. Remember the Aurora theater shooting?  How long a shot might that it have been if someone in one of the back rows had been armed and decided to try to stop James Holmes?     A bigger gun simply gives you more options. That does not mean small guns are useless...it simply means that a bigger gun gives you more options. If I ever found myself in a situation where a 25 yard shot might stop a mass shooting I'd MUCH rather have a Glock 17 (or even a 19) than just a J frame. On the other hand what are the odds of us ever being present when a mass shooting event kicks off? Who knows?   If you need to carry a tiny gun then carry a tiny gun. That is much better than having NO gun.  If you can make it work for you to carry a bigger gun then you simply have more bases covered. 

And an icbm can kill the guy from even farther out.   And I need to be fighting at 50-100 yards about as much as I do at 500-1000 miles in any realistic scenario.   For some folks, 50 yards might be useful, can't deny that.  But it wont be inside my house, inside my workplace, or inside the walmart, or any of the places that *I* frequent.  

Kinda makes me want to do business there if they're that gun friendly.

You handled it much better than I would have. I'd have told him that I didn't know him and that whatever I was doing was none of his business and walked away. Had he followed me and continued his tirade I would have told him that if he didn't shut up and stop scaring my children that I would call the police and press charges against him for harassment.