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Should have driven to the police station. I have no issues with him firing warning shots, or even killing this lunatic with the bat, but don't drive back to your house. You don't want someone like that to know where you live. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Y'all are using the wrong system. Mine tells me when misty or Sabrina are on stage at "The catch", and when Deja Vu is having a 2 for one special. Also sends an alert when 556 brass ammo price drops below 275.00 per 1000....

I'm looking for a show of hands.  Who here would prefer when purchasing a Benefactor membership on TGO to use a Credit/Debit Card through a processing company like Stripe or 2CheckOut as opposed to using a credit card (or existing account balance) through PayPal?   I am adding a poll to this question so if you're on TapaTalk just drop a reply in the thread or access the mobile version of this thread at http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/92050-show-of-hands-who-would-prefer-to-use-a-credit-card-over-paypal/     Edited to add:   Do not cast your vote on the notion that either of these choices is more or less "pro gun" than the other.  PayPal allows you to pay for a lot of things through them that are firearms related, firearms parts, etc. but just not BATFE regulated items like serialized components, NFA items, etc.   It's a fact of life that a lot of payment processing companies don't like that.  Neither Stripe or 2CheckOut support serialized item sales either and many banks are cracking down on it as well.  They're doing it not necessarily due to politics but also due to the fact that it's hard for them to keep tabs on jurisdictionally allowed sales which puts them at a risk of liability.

Would like to remind everyone in the NE Tennessee region that the Meadowview Convention Center show in Kingsport is Saturday and Sunday. I'll be walking around trying to sell my Vepr 12. Anyone else planning on going? I have found I like it better than the shows in Knoxville.

On my property I'm not going to turn my back or hide inside while someone is out there who has made it clear his intent to do me harm. I want him where I can see him and shoot him if decides to make good on his threat. I know enough to know that aggressors are emboldened by their victims fleeing. I'll not fault the victim here. He was on his property where he had a right to be. The aggressor could have ended it by simply leaving and moving on. The victim did that by going to his own dwelling. Once there, it changes the calculus of the scenario. The victim would not have been in the wrong to shoot this guy in the face. I would not have shown such restraint. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s not correct. If you are justified in killing someone, you are justified in exhausting all other means available to you before doing that. Plenty of cops have fired warning shots; even in departments where it was a violation of department policy. Just because he was cited doesn’t mean he will be charged. I suspect that charge will be dropped. The DA will have a hard timer prosecuting the other guy for aggravated assault if they claim the guy with the gun was not in fear for his safety.

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  You mean a "liberal"? Well even a liberal DA would have time arguing against the "BIDEN DEFENSE", But Joe told me to fire a warning shot. Now the liberal DA may argue that you are only allowed to do that with a double barrel shotgun.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuk3G9Xixc

LLLLLLOOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rEKu2rJXE http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/robert-farago/dimitri-karas-rides-again/

So there you go. Sounds like the DA is another pro-crime douche nozzle, who doesn't like it when victims defend themselves. Unless there is something left out of the story, the victim should be facing no charges, regardless of how trivial the actual charges are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This happened a few hundred yards from my house.  I'm not usually an advocate of warning shots but everyone went home or to jail unharmed so I guess all is good.  Oh yeah, and I'm really getting tired of people from places like Michigan that want to come here and cause all sorts of trouble.

This one's about hunting. Hilarious. :rofl: http://youtu.be/M9gFRXw5-kI

  Some are not inclined to flee from their own property.  You can reverse quarterback the whole thing from first contact, and we don't even know if the guy knew he was being followed home -- but either way, once the guy was at home, I can certainly empathize with his standing his ground myself.   - OS

Ready for round 2 and the range with this thing, hopefully with better luck. Special thanks to Gordon for all the work and advice he gave making this build what it is.

You know someone had to do it.

Come on OS, don't start that crap with me. Like I said, they don't have any of my bank info or anything else due to problems long ago. I no longer have an account with them. If I have no choice, then I have no choice. It's a last resort. I get emails every now and then to sign back up but that ain't happening. I do value TGO enough use my credit card through them, but that's it. Bersa apparently does the same thing and I'd say there are a few others here that do too. I see a big difference whether you do or not. I've paid my benefactor dues on here for the past 2 years and that is the only thing I've used them for since 2006 or so.

Dillons man, Dillons. Also help I dont shoot rifle much Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Bitcoin ;)

3,000,000 other people said the same thing in 2012 and now they're complaining because of what is going on.

Juste received my cans from Lexington Container. I'm very happy with their products. 

Depends on how much and what kind of meat you plan on smoking. The one we had on the farm always had Hams, Bacon slabs, jowl hanging from at least 2 250 lb hogs plus needed space in the smoke house for a salt box to pack the meat in salt a couple weeks prior to smoking. So a lot depends on what you plan on smoking and how much. Ours was built with rough sawmill lumber and tin roof with cracks between boards for smoke to escape. Don't see them much any more but a cool idea...........jmho

Glad he did it.  Can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing, although I may have let them tire themselves out some more.  I probably also would have used a sawzall if I had easy access to one.  They weren't going anywhere quick.

  Heck, S&W created the .40 in collaboration with the FBI as a direct result of the Miami shootout because the agency wanted to blame the 9mm for the tragedy and some of their agents couldn't handle 10mm.  I don't know, however, if this is so much about not being able to handle the .40 as it is about modern 9mm ammo being every bit as good performance wise with less recoil and (although I didn't see it specifically mentioned) higher capacity in the same sized pistols.

I've lived in Mt. Juliet since 1977 and that is exactly what happened.  People with money and a naive viewpoint left the hellholes they created, moved out here, and recreated them.  I'll never understand that.

Good point, I guess since I live in eastern TN I didn't really think about it. It's a solid 7 hrs away from where I am located though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Everyone to their own opinion, but I had a bad experience with PayPal a couple of years ago and they were not helpful at all. I had to change my CC and bank accounts to stop using them and I still get crap on the old account which now has dead account info. It was while they were connected with Ebay. things may be different now, but I'm done with them.  

  I don't agree with the conclusion that PayPal is exactly anti-gun.  You can buy a lot of things through them that are firearms related, firearms parts, etc. but just not BATFE regulated items like serialized components, NFA items, etc.   It's a fact of life that a lot of payment processing companies don't like that.  Neither Stripe or 2CheckOut support serialized item sales either and many banks are cracking down on it as well.  They're doing it not necessarily due to politics but also due to the fact that it's hard for them to keep tabs on jurisdictionally allowed sales which puts them at a risk of liability.   Do I like that?  No.   But we have to deal with the world we live in.

  You must be mistaken. The alert system is run by the gubmint, so I know it works, A-OK, #1.

When I handle the M&P guns I always feel and see hints of cheapness. I don't put them on the same dependability level as Glock. Just my opinion. Several departments have abandoned the M&P line. Admittedly, some have left Glock but they still dominate the market.

Sig P320.

  Glad to oblige. Please find Jimmy and hop inside his time machine*, it'll certainly move you through time**.   [media]https://youtu.be/Y-P0Hs0ADJY[/media]           Note: * Time machine not real. Any belief in the possibility of time travel proposed in another time wasting video and/or jumping in a cardboard box powered by Doritos is moderately disconcerting. The affected individual should consult a trained medical professional for immediate psychological evaluation.   ** Movement through time is not guaranteed to be in a direction desired by the traveller. Likely you'll just move forward in time. Probably by about 30 seconds or so.

IMFDB would have no way to know in what those M4A1s are chambered. Yeah, they're likely 5.56 picked up off the Army/Nat.Guard along the way, but they could have found a stash in someone's home chambered in 6.8, .300BLK, or some other wildcat round along with a stash of ammo to feed it. Once that runs out, it's kind of useless.

  We can't know how he felt, maybe he was trying anything to keep from killing him first. No good deed goes unpunished, I would bring that up at a Mt. Juliet town meeting, I would advise someone not try to stop a life threatening situation by warning someone, just go ahead and kill them.

The owe me 1:05. that's all I could take. LOL

  Sounds fair enough to me I guess. Sucks a bit regarding the citation, and ya wonder if simply showing the heater wouldn't have sufficed,  but better than having to shoot the guy, and of course I wasn't there.   - OS

So live and learn .. scratch a serial number into them next time, eh?   - OS

While we're waiting on the OP's response, I will share something some of you may not know.     I had a Yugo that REFUSED to cycle.  Turns out the head space was out of spec.  The Simonov rifle headspaces the rear bottom shoulder of the bolt against a square pin pressed into the receiver.  And that pin wears, headspace increases.  BUT, a square has four sides.  Drive the pin out, use a smooth stone to deburr it and reinsert 90 degrees from the way it came out.  Now you have a fresh shoulder to headspace on.   Maybe you already knew that?? :popcorn:

I love the competing buy back programs

I was stopped in Georgia and answered yes when the deputy asked if there were any weapons. He just had me keep my hands in front, but nothing else. At the end of the stop, he suggested informing his fellow LEO because some of them "might fly off the handle" (his words) when they find out you have a gun. That actually sounds like an excellent reason not to inform. The last thing I want to do is tell some anti-gun cop, "I have a gun."

We have a Belgian Malions she is retired from the Chicago PD. I would not take any thing in the world for her at bed time she flows my son to bed lays down in front of his door and does not move till he wakes up if someone comes to the door she will bark one time then set there till they leave when I'm home she lays in the floor at my feet and watches tv she has never been high stung best dog ever

 Having worked a K-9 if chosen properly have a huge drive. So they will need plenty of attention and if they haven't been retired for awhile they will take adjustment to becoming retired just like a human.

Back when I was growing up on the farm I got to watch an interesting show one morning while sitting on back porch drinking cup of coffee. I saw some movement in the back of the yard that was fenced for chickens and ducks. At first I saw a black racer raise it's head up about a foot out of the grass. Then it went back down and about 2 minutes later popped it's head up again and it had moved about 5 feet. Then as I watched I could see movement again from another direction. As I watched the black racer was actually stalking a Copper head that was a bit smaller than the racer. As time went on all hell broke loose as the Copper head crawled across what appeared to be a spot just behind the racers head area. All at once the racer struck the Copperhead and began to coil itself in a constricting move and both snakes were rolled up together. After about 15 minutes I watched the racer unwrap from the Copperhead and begin to consume the Copperhead, head first. Took the racer about 25 minutes to completely consume it's meal. I have only been moved down here about 3 months when I saw this and I was just amazed as I had never seen anything like it before. At that point I knew why my Grandfather told me to never kill a Black snake. He said they do much more good than harm. I try not to kill any non venomous snake if I can avoid it............... :up:  :up: 

Liberals are like a virus... they infect areas, ruin them... then move on to a new place and start over again.

Violent crimes by armed criminals don’t happen because of guns. The only way to survive a home invasion or an armed robbery is to comply (and hope they don’t kill you) or kill your attacker. I cannot for the life of me figure out how these people think disarming law abiding citizens will help. Are they so ignorant that they think criminals won’t be able to get guns? Drugs have been illegal for many years and most offenses are felonies; obviously getting drugs is easy. And I wish they would quit calling it the “Gun Show Loophole”. They aren’t interested in controlling the sale of guns at gun shows; they want to stop private sales; period. The very people that want more in-depth background checks are the same people that are not willing to do what that would require; open medical records to the government. (more than they already are) I would suggest this Mayor go on some street patrols; of course that won’t happen without an entourage of security. But maybe she could sit in on or view some interviews where she could truly look evil in the eye. I doubt this woman has any idea what it’s like on the streets of her own city. I wonder if she has thought about the last thoughts of the victims in shootings were they know they are going to die, because the cops are minutes away and they are in a gun free zone.... I have. The only way to stop an active shooter is with another active shooter.

I grew up in Mt. Juliet and spent a lot of time in Lebanon with my grand parents.  I've lived elsewhere since 2004 and moved back to Mt. Juliet this summer.  Well, Lebanon isn't the bigger of the two towns anymore and the whole county has been saturated with tons of people moving in from other places.  Unfortunatley it seems that most of them are yuppie liberals that didn't like it where they lived and want to make our home exactly like where they came from.  Mt. Juliet was more or less an agricultural community when I was growing up but now there are very few farms left.  We traded all of our farms for yuppie housing, if that's not depressing I don't know what is.  I did see a tractor on Mt. Juliet road between Walmart and Providence during rush hour, made me laugh when I thought about how many of those yuppies must be mad about being stuck behind a tractor.

Will his head explode if I tell him that I send money to the NRA? 

  Maybe the indiscriminate killing by humans?  At the very least it could explain less snakes seen around populated areas.

Already done Metalhead. Palpatine was reborn into a series of clone bodies for a time and Luke served him as the Supreme Commander. He quickly returned to the light though and Palpatine was destroyed forever.

Open carry at a rally is okay as long as it is done in a very responsible manner.  You have to make damn sure you do not break any laws and avoid any type of confrontation.  When I helped organize the rally in Nashville last January I made darn sure all law enforcement agencies were notified of the rally and that people would be exercising their right to carry a firearm on capital grounds.  I also notified the proper state officials and made sure they were aware of the rally.  In the weeks running up to the rally I consistently let the attendees know that law enforcement would be present and that protestors would also likely be there.  I also told them to keep their AR's at home.     The whole thing went extremely well and state law enforcement was extremely impressed with rally.  There were people open carrying handguns and probably over 50% of the crowd was armed.  Like I said, I see no problem with open carrying at a rally as long as the rally is well organized, peaceful, and follows the law in lock step.     You just need to be very careful in choosing the time and place for such events.  I will never go to a rally that is just thrown together and/or plans to be in direct defiance of the law.  That does not help our cause one bit.